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Replying To MayoDan:  "Tyrone made the 2018 final by beating Donegal in super 8s and Monaghan in the semi final. Monaghan did not beat Kerry, it was a draw. They did beat a Galway side who were already qualified.

The jury is still out on Armagh. They've a terrible championship record in recent years."
Anyway, lads I'm only messing. Mayo 4 Sam.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 29/06/2021 10:51:07    2354501

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Replying To nicko94:  "
Replying To McGo72:  "Replying To MurphBalls: "Mayo on a higher tier than Donegal and Tyrone haha. Now that is comical!"

They 100% are at the moment.

Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time.

In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way.

In 2020 Mayo got to the all ireland final, Donegal and Tyrone on the other hand......

if you go back to the years prior to this Mayo were miles ahead of them both.

I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently.

The only thing is the injury of Cillian O'Connor, which is a huge loss, but Donegal will suffer without Murphy also.
Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 28/06/2021 12:06:43

I have noticed you have used only the last two years to benefit the point you are making which is quite shocking to be honest because you can't even reason with yourself well enough. Bare with me I will pick your argument apart from here ...

"Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time." Other than win Ulster championships and appear in an All Ireland in 2018. OK so you initial statement is complete nonsense. Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.

"In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way." Mayo were eliminated from Connacht by a team just relegated from division 1 who only won one match in the league. They were then soundly beaten by both Kerry and Dublin.

"I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently." I would say Mayo are below Donegal and Tyrone at present because Mayo were relegated last year and they have not beaten anyone to note this year. I do believe there is a strong possibility that either Galway or Roscommon could beat Mayo in Connacht who were not good enough for D1 and as much as I don't rate Armagh they went through Roscommon like they never existed."
'Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.'

Is this poster an actual troll? lmao"
I would rather measure it in terms of provincial success.

You don't get any prizes for being the bridesmaid.

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 11:16:20    2354513

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "Anyway, lads I'm only messing. Mayo 4 Sam."
Mayo for sandwiches lad, they'll never see Sam. #Samsforthehills

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 1735 - 29/06/2021 11:23:07    2354517

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Replying To McGo72:  "
Replying To nicko94:  "[quote=McGo72:  "Replying To MurphBalls: "Mayo on a higher tier than Donegal and Tyrone haha. Now that is comical!"

They 100% are at the moment.

Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time.

In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way.

In 2020 Mayo got to the all ireland final, Donegal and Tyrone on the other hand......

if you go back to the years prior to this Mayo were miles ahead of them both.

I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently.

The only thing is the injury of Cillian O'Connor, which is a huge loss, but Donegal will suffer without Murphy also.
Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 28/06/2021 12:06:43

I have noticed you have used only the last two years to benefit the point you are making which is quite shocking to be honest because you can't even reason with yourself well enough. Bare with me I will pick your argument apart from here ...

"Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time." Other than win Ulster championships and appear in an All Ireland in 2018. OK so you initial statement is complete nonsense. Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.

"In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way." Mayo were eliminated from Connacht by a team just relegated from division 1 who only won one match in the league. They were then soundly beaten by both Kerry and Dublin.

"I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently." I would say Mayo are below Donegal and Tyrone at present because Mayo were relegated last year and they have not beaten anyone to note this year. I do believe there is a strong possibility that either Galway or Roscommon could beat Mayo in Connacht who were not good enough for D1 and as much as I don't rate Armagh they went through Roscommon like they never existed."
'Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.'

Is this poster an actual troll? lmao"
I would rather measure it in terms of provincial success.

You don't get any prizes for being the bridesmaid."]Go into Leinster then and tell us where you will be ranked.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 305 - 29/06/2021 11:25:32    2354520

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "Mayo for sandwiches lad, they'll never see Sam. #Samsforthehills"
It's a good thing we aren't ranking the teams based on Sam Maguires won since 1960. The Mayo lads would still find a way to have them ahead of the Ulster teams haha

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 29/06/2021 11:43:46    2354528

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Replying To MayoDan:  "Well Galway and Roscommon were division 1 until recently, yet according to some Mayo had an easy run to the final in 2020"
Nobody only a few fools believe Mayo had an easy run. Two boys giving it the big one from the most overrated county in the Country. They lost to flipping Cavan last year. Pipe down. The likes of Armagh and Monaghan were training away illegally and got the jump on us and Galway. On a level playing field we would never have went down to Armagh by such a score at least. We have beat them easily the two times previously. Monaghan who were caught by the Bol**x breaking the rules just about bet Galway.
The insecurity of the northies is laughable every year banging on about its so competitive and high quality when in truth its very little different than the rest just the winner is weaker. Kildare and Meath would hold their own in Ulster.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 744 - 29/06/2021 12:00:41    2354541

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Nobody only a few fools believe Mayo had an easy run. Two boys giving it the big one from the most overrated county in the Country. They lost to flipping Cavan last year. Pipe down. The likes of Armagh and Monaghan were training away illegally and got the jump on us and Galway. On a level playing field we would never have went down to Armagh by such a score at least. We have beat them easily the two times previously. Monaghan who were caught by the Bol**x breaking the rules just about bet Galway.
The insecurity of the northies is laughable every year banging on about its so competitive and high quality when in truth its very little different than the rest just the winner is weaker. Kildare and Meath would hold their own in Ulster."
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha my god give me strength. I definitely believe I have become dumber after reading that comment.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 29/06/2021 12:06:19    2354542

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha my god give me strength. I definitely believe I have become dumber after reading that comment."
Don't think its possible for you to get any dumber after reading that comment. You are pretty special already going off the contributions you leave here.

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 744 - 29/06/2021 12:19:38    2354551

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Don't think its possible for you to get any dumber after reading that comment. You are pretty special already going off the contributions you leave here."
I didn't think it was possible either but here I am contemplating how it is I got dumber. I suppose I have you to thank good sir. Mayo 4 Sam.

Actually, I always had a question but never knew how to phrase it without offending someone from Roscommon but how do you get excited about the prospects of Roscommon GAA? Do you live for the Connaught Championship every year along with Division 2 league every second year? Because it must be very frustrating knowing you can't ever compete outside of Connaught and outside of Division 2. Like how do you get excited about Roscommon GAA when you are taking big beatings outside of those spheres?

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 29/06/2021 12:27:06    2354556

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "If you are to actually rank teams without a Mayo or Donegal bias you have to account for last years league AND championship as a start point before applying results in 2021 to give a ranking

That puts you with
Rank 1 - Dublin
Rank 2 - Mayo/Kerry
Rank 3 - Donegal/Tyrone/Galway/Monaghan
Rank 4 - Meath/Cork/Kildare/Roscommon/Armagh
Rank 5 - Cavan/Tipp/Clare/Derry/Offaly/Down/Limerick/Westmeath
Rank 6 - Laois/Longford/Fermanagh/Antrim/Louth
Rank 7 - Wicklow/Wexford/Carlow
Rank 8 - Sligo/Leitrim/Waterford/

If you were to rank those today it would be:
1. Dublin
2. Kerry
3. Mayo
4. Donegal
5. Tyrone
6. Monaghan
7. Galway
8. Armagh
9. Kildare
10. Meath
11. Roscommon
12. Cork
13. Derry
14. Clare
15. Offaly
16. Westmeath
17. Down
18. Limerick
19. Cavan
20. Tipp
21. Antrim
22. Louth
23. Laois
24. Longford
25. Fermanagh
26. Wexford
27. Wicklow
28. Carlow
29. Sligo
30. Waterford
31. Leitrim

Not much between 9-14 and 15-25"
I am going to go with this as most people are more inclined to agree with it. I can see why you have put Galway in rank 3 and I would be borderline in agreement with you. Although by the same argument some Donegal fans could debate having Armagh in Tier 3 instead of tier 4 although I agree with their placement. Anyway, quickly looked the results and came up with this...

Mayo have played 8 games against teams ranked 1-3 and they have won 25% (won 2) of their games (Drawn 12%).
Mayo have played 8 games against teams ranked 4 and lower and have won 100% of their games.
Even when removing games against Dublin because nobody will beat them the stats only improve slightly to 33%.

Donegal have played 10 games against top 3 ranks of teams and have won 40% (won 4) of their games (Drawn 22%)
Donegal have played 4 games against rank 4 and lower and have won 75% of their games.
Do they same for Dublin and Donegal's win rate goes up to 50%.

When you take into consideration only tier 3 teams Mayo have a 50% win rate whilst Donegal have a 67% win rate. If consideration is given to drawn games Mayo goes up to 70% and Donegal are at 84%. I would suggest by this Mayo are a tier 3 team.

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 12:50:35    2354568

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "I didn't think it was possible either but here I am contemplating how it is I got dumber. I suppose I have you to thank good sir. Mayo 4 Sam.

Actually, I always had a question but never knew how to phrase it without offending someone from Roscommon but how do you get excited about the prospects of Roscommon GAA? Do you live for the Connaught Championship every year along with Division 2 league every second year? Because it must be very frustrating knowing you can't ever compete outside of Connaught and outside of Division 2. Like how do you get excited about Roscommon GAA when you are taking big beatings outside of those spheres?"
Think the connacht boys are really taking it to heart that two ulster counties relegated them down to div 2 and four of eight countys in div 1 are from ulster

bobo91 (Monaghan) - Posts: 16 - 29/06/2021 12:51:43    2354574

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "I didn't think it was possible either but here I am contemplating how it is I got dumber. I suppose I have you to thank good sir. Mayo 4 Sam.

Actually, I always had a question but never knew how to phrase it without offending someone from Roscommon but how do you get excited about the prospects of Roscommon GAA? Do you live for the Connaught Championship every year along with Division 2 league every second year? Because it must be very frustrating knowing you can't ever compete outside of Connaught and outside of Division 2. Like how do you get excited about Roscommon GAA when you are taking big beatings outside of those spheres?"
No its actually not frustrating at all. I am a realist and am aware Roscommon will never win an All Ireland in the current format. So yes winning Connaught Championships and the odd League title at Division 2 , 3 even 4 are always welcomed by me anyway.
I understand by even doing so is a massive achievement given our low population, one of the oldest populations in the country and absolutely no employment in the county. Most players travel a couple of hours home from training.
Some regions in Dublin have bigger populations than Roscommon, Have one gaa club or very few and don't play senior club championship. What hope have the likes of us only getting big beatings.
Your own County have the exact same number of All Irelands as Roscommon so pipe down. Talking the talk the last few years but doing sweet F all to back it up. At least we know where we stand

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 744 - 29/06/2021 12:52:07    2354575

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Replying To winatallcost:  "
Replying To McGo72:  "[quote=nicko94:  "[quote=McGo72:  "Replying To MurphBalls: "Mayo on a higher tier than Donegal and Tyrone haha. Now that is comical!"

They 100% are at the moment.

Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time.

In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way.

In 2020 Mayo got to the all ireland final, Donegal and Tyrone on the other hand......

if you go back to the years prior to this Mayo were miles ahead of them both.

I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently.

The only thing is the injury of Cillian O'Connor, which is a huge loss, but Donegal will suffer without Murphy also.
Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 28/06/2021 12:06:43

I have noticed you have used only the last two years to benefit the point you are making which is quite shocking to be honest because you can't even reason with yourself well enough. Bare with me I will pick your argument apart from here ...

"Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time." Other than win Ulster championships and appear in an All Ireland in 2018. OK so you initial statement is complete nonsense. Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.

"In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way." Mayo were eliminated from Connacht by a team just relegated from division 1 who only won one match in the league. They were then soundly beaten by both Kerry and Dublin.

"I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently." I would say Mayo are below Donegal and Tyrone at present because Mayo were relegated last year and they have not beaten anyone to note this year. I do believe there is a strong possibility that either Galway or Roscommon could beat Mayo in Connacht who were not good enough for D1 and as much as I don't rate Armagh they went through Roscommon like they never existed."
'Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.'

Is this poster an actual troll? lmao"
I would rather measure it in terms of provincial success.

You don't get any prizes for being the bridesmaid."]Go into Leinster then and tell us where you will be ranked."]Put Mayo into Leinster and see how much success they have. The fact of the matter is neither team are in Leinster

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 12:52:15    2354576

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Nobody only a few fools believe Mayo had an easy run. Two boys giving it the big one from the most overrated county in the Country. They lost to flipping Cavan last year. Pipe down. The likes of Armagh and Monaghan were training away illegally and got the jump on us and Galway. On a level playing field we would never have went down to Armagh by such a score at least. We have beat them easily the two times previously. Monaghan who were caught by the Bol**x breaking the rules just about bet Galway.
The insecurity of the northies is laughable every year banging on about its so competitive and high quality when in truth its very little different than the rest just the winner is weaker. Kildare and Meath would hold their own in Ulster."
Coming on here talking about insecurities while making excuses about Armagh and Monaghan training.

Kildare and Meath would win Connacht.

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 12:55:37    2354580

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Replying To winatallcost:  "
Replying To McGo72:  "[quote=nicko94:  "[quote=McGo72:  "Replying To MurphBalls: "Mayo on a higher tier than Donegal and Tyrone haha. Now that is comical!"

They 100% are at the moment.

Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time.

In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way.

In 2020 Mayo got to the all ireland final, Donegal and Tyrone on the other hand......

if you go back to the years prior to this Mayo were miles ahead of them both.

I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently.

The only thing is the injury of Cillian O'Connor, which is a huge loss, but Donegal will suffer without Murphy also.
Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 28/06/2021 12:06:43

I have noticed you have used only the last two years to benefit the point you are making which is quite shocking to be honest because you can't even reason with yourself well enough. Bare with me I will pick your argument apart from here ...

"Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time." Other than win Ulster championships and appear in an All Ireland in 2018. OK so you initial statement is complete nonsense. Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.

"In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way." Mayo were eliminated from Connacht by a team just relegated from division 1 who only won one match in the league. They were then soundly beaten by both Kerry and Dublin.

"I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently." I would say Mayo are below Donegal and Tyrone at present because Mayo were relegated last year and they have not beaten anyone to note this year. I do believe there is a strong possibility that either Galway or Roscommon could beat Mayo in Connacht who were not good enough for D1 and as much as I don't rate Armagh they went through Roscommon like they never existed."
'Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.'

Is this poster an actual troll? lmao"
I would rather measure it in terms of provincial success.

You don't get any prizes for being the bridesmaid."]Go into Leinster then and tell us where you will be ranked."]Just to add even before Dublin's AI dominance nobody in Leinster could touch them.

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 12:57:29    2354581

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Replying To MurphBalls:  "I didn't think it was possible either but here I am contemplating how it is I got dumber. I suppose I have you to thank good sir. Mayo 4 Sam.

Actually, I always had a question but never knew how to phrase it without offending someone from Roscommon but how do you get excited about the prospects of Roscommon GAA? Do you live for the Connaught Championship every year along with Division 2 league every second year? Because it must be very frustrating knowing you can't ever compete outside of Connaught and outside of Division 2. Like how do you get excited about Roscommon GAA when you are taking big beatings outside of those spheres?"
Armagh aren't even on the radar for Ulster this year and they hammered them.

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 12:58:26    2354583

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Replying To McGo72:  "
Replying To nicko94:  "[quote=McGo72:  "Replying To MurphBalls: "Mayo on a higher tier than Donegal and Tyrone haha. Now that is comical!"

They 100% are at the moment.

Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time.

In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way.

In 2020 Mayo got to the all ireland final, Donegal and Tyrone on the other hand......

if you go back to the years prior to this Mayo were miles ahead of them both.

I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently.

The only thing is the injury of Cillian O'Connor, which is a huge loss, but Donegal will suffer without Murphy also.
Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 28/06/2021 12:06:43

I have noticed you have used only the last two years to benefit the point you are making which is quite shocking to be honest because you can't even reason with yourself well enough. Bare with me I will pick your argument apart from here ...

"Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time." Other than win Ulster championships and appear in an All Ireland in 2018. OK so you initial statement is complete nonsense. Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.

"In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way." Mayo were eliminated from Connacht by a team just relegated from division 1 who only won one match in the league. They were then soundly beaten by both Kerry and Dublin.

"I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently." I would say Mayo are below Donegal and Tyrone at present because Mayo were relegated last year and they have not beaten anyone to note this year. I do believe there is a strong possibility that either Galway or Roscommon could beat Mayo in Connacht who were not good enough for D1 and as much as I don't rate Armagh they went through Roscommon like they never existed."
'Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.'

Is this poster an actual troll? lmao"
I would rather measure it in terms of provincial success.

You don't get any prizes for being the bridesmaid."]Yeah good idea, measure it on provincial competitions where counties can only play others within that province. Let's ignore what happens when the counties leave the provinces and can play each other.

Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 44 - 29/06/2021 13:22:45    2354590

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Replying To McGo72:  "Armagh aren't even on the radar for Ulster this year and they hammered them."
Neither were Cavan last year and they spanked you bottlers

sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 744 - 29/06/2021 13:24:51    2354591

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "No its actually not frustrating at all. I am a realist and am aware Roscommon will never win an All Ireland in the current format. So yes winning Connaught Championships and the odd League title at Division 2 , 3 even 4 are always welcomed by me anyway.
I understand by even doing so is a massive achievement given our low population, one of the oldest populations in the country and absolutely no employment in the county. Most players travel a couple of hours home from training.
Some regions in Dublin have bigger populations than Roscommon, Have one gaa club or very few and don't play senior club championship. What hope have the likes of us only getting big beatings.
Your own County have the exact same number of All Irelands as Roscommon so pipe down. Talking the talk the last few years but doing sweet F all to back it up. At least we know where we stand"
But you're banging on about the winner of Ulster is weaker than the rest outside of Ulster. You just admitted yourself that Roscommon are never going to win an AI. Haven't Roscommon won Connaught twice in the last 4 years? Is that not telling you something?

Roscommon won the AI back in the 50s. A Connaught team have won the AI once this century, Galway in 2001. Ulster football, you could say were a dominant force in football at the beginning of the 90s and certainly the 00s.

Now, you're saying Donegal have done sweet F all to back it up. In the 00's, when Ulster dominated football across Ireland, Donegal made a number quarter final appearances and a semi final appearance where they lost by eventual winners Armagh. In the 2010s Donegal got to 3 AI semi finals and 2 AI finals, winning one of them. Donegal have had massive success in Ulster making the 9 of the last 10 Ulster finals, winning 5 of them all while beating teams like Monaghan and Tyrone (Consistent D1 teams). I'd say that alone is a lot to shout about and that's without mentioning the fact we won the AI in 2012 and got to the final in 2014.

When was the last time Roscommon even got to a semi final let alone a final outside of Connacht and Division 2?

Now for Connaught, Mayo got to so many finals I have actually lost count but have they won? No, they haven't. So, I would have to say that Connaught, as a collective, hasn't a lot to really shout about have they? Sport is generally pretty bad in Connaught. Must be a weak mentality.

MurphBalls (Donegal) - Posts: 109 - 29/06/2021 13:27:12    2354592

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Replying To Offtheball10:  "
Replying To McGo72:  "[quote=nicko94:  "[quote=McGo72:  "Replying To MurphBalls: "Mayo on a higher tier than Donegal and Tyrone haha. Now that is comical!"

They 100% are at the moment.

Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time.

In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way.

In 2020 Mayo got to the all ireland final, Donegal and Tyrone on the other hand......

if you go back to the years prior to this Mayo were miles ahead of them both.

I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently.

The only thing is the injury of Cillian O'Connor, which is a huge loss, but Donegal will suffer without Murphy also.
Offtheball10 (Meath) - Posts: 21 - 28/06/2021 12:06:43

I have noticed you have used only the last two years to benefit the point you are making which is quite shocking to be honest because you can't even reason with yourself well enough. Bare with me I will pick your argument apart from here ...

"Donegal and Tyrone have done nothing, absolutely nothing to suggest otherwise to date for a long long time." Other than win Ulster championships and appear in an All Ireland in 2018. OK so you initial statement is complete nonsense. Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.

"In 2019 which was the most recent full season Mayo won the league and got to an all ireland semi final, comfortably beating Donegal in a straight knockout championship game along the way." Mayo were eliminated from Connacht by a team just relegated from division 1 who only won one match in the league. They were then soundly beaten by both Kerry and Dublin.

"I can't work out on what basis Donegal or Tyrone (even Kerry it could be argued) deserve to be ahead of Mayo currently." I would say Mayo are below Donegal and Tyrone at present because Mayo were relegated last year and they have not beaten anyone to note this year. I do believe there is a strong possibility that either Galway or Roscommon could beat Mayo in Connacht who were not good enough for D1 and as much as I don't rate Armagh they went through Roscommon like they never existed."
'Between them they have done more than Mayo. If you want to try again and go back further over a period of 5 years you will find you are still wrong.'

Is this poster an actual troll? lmao"
I would rather measure it in terms of provincial success.

You don't get any prizes for being the bridesmaid."]Yeah good idea, measure it on provincial competitions where counties can only play others within that province. Let's ignore what happens when the counties leave the provinces and can play each other."]I don't think Donegal would beat Dublin and haven't said any such thing on this forum so I don't know why you are getting all high and mighty about it. I have no problem saying Dublin would beat every provincial winner with ease with the exception of Kerry because they would. However, if Donegal were in Leinster they would easily be the second best team.

McGo72 (Donegal) - Posts: 48 - 29/06/2021 13:43:28    2354598

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