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Replying To Trump2020: "Agreed. Apology accepted. Lots of great hurling ahead. Galway Abu!!!" 100% correct great win for us..woo hoo Up Galway. Now we can forget about "that crowd" Can't wait for a proper match this weekend against Tipp and then Cork. Those are the teams we want to be beating. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 19/05/2021 17:20:17 2343438 Link
The overall perception that physicality is going or gone from the game is true. It should be protected as closely as skill. The one tackle thats totally legitimate is the shoulder to shoulder. But its not really an option. In todays world a slightly off shoulder is a yellow..so the only legitimate physical contact is actually mot really am option. One thing the refs could do is go to teams before the game and say..' I'm clamping down on steps and throws but if a shoulder is slightly off I'm giving a free and not a yellow and don't dive '...At the moment we are rewarding the weak and penalising the strong. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 19/05/2021 17:42:15 2343445 Link
This Limerick-Galway recent rivalry on this forum is quite entertaining. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 19/05/2021 18:16:30 2343455 Link
Replying To fainleog: "Shane can keep laughing to himself. Limerick have two All-Irelands secured and hopefully will add another All-Ireland shortly." And sure if Galway win it then the two squads have 2 All Irelands apiece in recent years. So what's your point? No one is arguing that you didn't win 2 All Irelands. Townee2018 (Galway) - Posts: 281 - 19/05/2021 19:01:27 2343464 Link
Replying To Bosco98: "Agree 100%, Limerick the best team in the country and still the team to beat. They may well be looking to time their run this year, while Galway, Tipp, Cork need to perform in the league and also hopefully find a few players. Munster looking scarily competitive (even more so than normal) this year, with only Clare perhaps slipping away a small bit. Updwell, please take a chill pill." All chilled here Bosco just pointing out the Limerick view of Sunday. I don't expect Galway people to agree with me but most Limerick fans and some neutrals will agree with me. I think it's good for the game if 2 of the best teams around and definitely the 2 most physical don't like each other and have a problem with each other- image what it will be like in July if they meet each other with a crowd back in the ground, something brilliant to look forward to and something we have all missed. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 817 - 19/05/2021 19:51:02 2343469 Link
Replying To Bosco98: "Agree 100%, Limerick the best team in the country and still the team to beat. They may well be looking to time their run this year, while Galway, Tipp, Cork need to perform in the league and also hopefully find a few players. Munster looking scarily competitive (even more so than normal) this year, with only Clare perhaps slipping away a small bit. Updwell, please take a chill pill." I wouldn't be writing Clare off either. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 19/05/2021 20:27:53 2343474 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I wouldn't be writing Clare off either." Clare are in trouble, they are going nowhere. They seem to have been losing quality players at an alarming rate the last few seasons. When you see players like Cathal Malone being relied on, you know your in bother. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1899 - 19/05/2021 21:10:48 2343486 Link
Replying To Bon: "Clare are in trouble, they are going nowhere. They seem to have been losing quality players at an alarming rate the last few seasons. When you see players like Cathal Malone being relied on, you know your in bother." I still wouldn't write them off. One of the commentators last weekend said there were only 3 players on the pitch that won the AI in 2013. Granted Shane O Donnell wouldve made it 4 if he hadnt been injured on the Friday but when you think back that was a really young panel that won in 2013. Only 8 years ago. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11736 - 19/05/2021 21:48:08 2343500 Link
Replying To Bon: "Clare are in trouble, they are going nowhere. They seem to have been losing quality players at an alarming rate the last few seasons. When you see players like Cathal Malone being relied on, you know your in bother." Malone received an all-star nomination last year! Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 19/05/2021 22:31:35 2343511 Link
Replying To Ban: "Malone received an all-star nomination last year!" He's just a journey man, he wont be bringing Clare back to the promised land. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1899 - 19/05/2021 23:18:20 2343518 Link
Replying To updwell: "No need for me to apologise PoolSturgeon, Kiely like a lot of Limerick followers is annoyed with the double standards with regards to Limerick and the way we are being refereed. If 2 players collide on a 50/50 ball and 1 falls to the ground now days the ref will give a free to the player on the ground more often than not, as Limerick men are usually bigger and stronger than their opponents then the opposition will get a free and a lot of that seemed to be happening on Sunday. Maybe the Galway man 'dived' or fell under the weight of the challenge I don't know but with the yelling amd roaring that could be easily heard on the tv from the player tackled and the sideline of Galway then a weak ref gave ye a lot of frees. Galway I'm sure like Limerick would have no problem getting into a hard hitting physical match that wouldn't cross the line but the rules now days prevent that. Limerick seemed to come out the wrong side of a lot of the calls on Sunday like Peter Caseys booking, English having his hurley held and the free going against him, Costello being blown up for over carrying near the end of the game after he had stumped and got up and see the photos in the Irish Examiner on Monday of Tuohys hurley up inside Hegartys helmet and no free either and 2 photos of Mannion with the spare hand pulling back Limerick forwards getting away from him. The most cynical foul I saw on Sunday was Mclnerney holding onto Flanagan after he won a ball in the air and was getting free to run at the goals from 30 yards out. The play acting of Tuohy at 1 stage I thought he had a broken neck and a minute later he was running around like a spring lamb or Flynn after the final whistle hitting Byrne's in the back and apparently getting a box to the face and going down like he was shot even though he had a helmet on with the face guard- surely Byrne's must have a broken hand if he hit him that hard. As for the suggestion the Hayes kicked a man on the ground do what Kiely did and review the video because on Sunday if Limerick players looked crooked at Galway men the ref gave a free. Finally get a saddle for Shane Cooney for the next time he marks Lynch- he did everything but ride him." Great post, thanks for enumerating the rest of the story. PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1355 - 20/05/2021 01:25:57 2343528 Link
Replying To Flaherty: "Fair enough, very possibly there is some feigning of fouls going on but I think what's equally damaging to the game is the cynical tapping on helmets , lazy hands on arms and other stupid fouls. One leads to the other in my opinion...what's an opponent supposed to do to counter all the cynical fouling? I think the refs are doing right to clamp down on it and once the cynical fouling is reduced perhaps the so called diving will vanish too and hurling will be the better for it. Jackie Tyrrell is naive to think it makes for a more entertaining game if hurling was allowed to be a physical free for all environment. Cynicism and illegality take the good out of any game and there was a lot of that going on when he was playing. I think most people would agree hurling has been far more entertaining the past four or five years then in the period prior to that when Jackie played...how is that?" That is very true. Hard for Jackie Tyrell to see it any other way when that's the mentality burned into his head for over 10 years by the fame Brian Cody. "I don't want people who will die for me,I want people who will kill for me" PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1355 - 20/05/2021 01:39:21 2343529 Link
Replying To Galway9801: "I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume youre joking with that last sentence,, but on the off chance that you actually believe that throwing yourself to the ground is a skill,, I'll make it simple,, (I'll have to) 1-wait for your opponent to physically contact you 2-fall down There, you've just mastered the skill of diving. Who needs stickwork/ball control /hand eye coordination, precision /intelligence eh?" No not joking.. i never said anything about diving by the way. All of the above mentioned barge out, arms flailing, tossing the head back and get a lot of handy frees. Definitely a skill... it's an acquired method of gaining an advantage. It does frustrate me that referees fall for it so often but i can't knock the players for doing it and as i've said there are players from every county at it. Aidan Harte is another one that chances his arm this way :) LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 20/05/2021 09:51:33 2343541 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "No not joking.. i never said anything about diving by the way. All of the above mentioned barge out, arms flailing, tossing the head back and get a lot of handy frees. Definitely a skill... it's an acquired method of gaining an advantage. It does frustrate me that referees fall for it so often but i can't knock the players for doing it and as i've said there are players from every county at it. Aidan Harte is another one that chances his arm this way :)" What about the other side of the coin, the player who goes out to do damage, to inflict injury and then smiles to the ref, looks as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and gets away with it each time. How many times did commentators last year ask this question, "what does Gearóid Hegarty have to do to get a card?" The referees must have been looking back at some videos of Limerick during lockdown. Cian Lynch does the same, a lovely innocent smile after leaving an opponent lying in agony on the ground. That's the worst form of deception. Some players let a roar nowadays in the hope that the officials give them protection. It's easy for the likes of Tyrell, a big strong man, to be talking about physicality. But there's nothing manly or physical about knocking a fella unconscious with a frontal shoulder when the player's eyes are on the sliotar and has no way of protecting himself. baire (Galway) - Posts: 1785 - 20/05/2021 11:00:39 2343565 Link
Replying To baire: "What about the other side of the coin, the player who goes out to do damage, to inflict injury and then smiles to the ref, looks as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth and gets away with it each time. How many times did commentators last year ask this question, "what does Gearóid Hegarty have to do to get a card?" The referees must have been looking back at some videos of Limerick during lockdown. Cian Lynch does the same, a lovely innocent smile after leaving an opponent lying in agony on the ground. That's the worst form of deception. Some players let a roar nowadays in the hope that the officials give them protection. It's easy for the likes of Tyrell, a big strong man, to be talking about physicality. But there's nothing manly or physical about knocking a fella unconscious with a frontal shoulder when the player's eyes are on the sliotar and has no way of protecting himself." You are slightly missing my point here.... I'm highlighting the soft frees that players look for that if eradicated would speed up the game and create more turnovers and keep the ball in play etc.. Although there is definitely an Anti- Limerick tone to your post I do agree on your Gearoid Hegarty point. He tends to flail dangerously with the hurl when trying to dispossess an opponent. Most hurlers attempt the flick when the player has/is about to throw the ball on to the hurl. Hegarty seems to flick more in hope he'll dislodge the ball than anything else. It is dangerous and will break somebody's arm sooner rather than later. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 20/05/2021 11:33:28 2343571 Link
Bauer can you actually name one game where lynch did something to warrant a ref card?you and your like must be delighted that Byrnes has got a one match suspension,why not have a look back and have a look at the antics of the brave Flynn..if ye complain enough maybe more of our players will be suspended in the course of the year..you know the saying,people in glasshouse,etc,etc,..it'll come back to haunt ye., CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2209 - 20/05/2021 12:07:43 2343583 Link
Replying To CTGAA10: "Bauer can you actually name one game where lynch did something to warrant a ref card?you and your like must be delighted that Byrnes has got a one match suspension,why not have a look back and have a look at the antics of the brave Flynn..if ye complain enough maybe more of our players will be suspended in the course of the year..you know the saying,people in glasshouse,etc,etc,..it'll come back to haunt ye.," Byrnes threw a box from behind. looked cowardly in my opinion one match ban in the league is not a bad punishment.. Cathal Malone should of got sent off for his hit after the ball on Rory O Connor on Sunday. Missiled himself at Rory's head. Disgraceful shot on a defenceless opponent. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 20/05/2021 12:23:31 2343595 Link
Disgraceful cowardly action from Byrnes...to punch an opponent in the head when his back was turned and unable to defend himself. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 20/05/2021 12:42:09 2343604 Link
Oh Jesus have a look at the antics of the brave Flynn in lead up to incident,also have a look at his celebration of a free given against Costello's late in match..I think he was watching to much premier league..limerick and Byrnes are accepting the one match ban,can we now get back to hurling ..I'm looking forward to see how tipp/gal is reffed at weekend.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2209 - 20/05/2021 13:23:32 2343635 Link
I would hate to see the lot of you if it was a big match that somebody had lost, rather than a league match of little significance. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 20/05/2021 15:07:40 2343675 Link