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AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 929 - 08/05/2021 15:09:21 2340547Link 2
I posed the question earlier regarding Dublin's "best" player and probably the best player in the country, certainly in his position, and that player is Brian Fenton, the current footballer of the year, the second time he has won the award in two years. Great player, no one can question that.
Well believe it or not Brian Fenton was told he wasn't good enough for the Dublin Minor team about 10 years ago.
Ironically the manager was none other than Dessie Farrell.
I hope this helps to answer the good question Viking66 directed at me yesterday."]Good answer. So you are saying Dublin have a really good longterm approach to developing senior footballers? What is stopping other counties doing this? If other counties prioritise minor success as the traditional route to developing good senior players and this is why they are coming up short then why dont they change their approach?"]Funding. Plain and simple.
I'm not going to google this so these figures are going to be off slightly, but last year it was reported dubs got 170+ per registered player. Meath got 70+. Or something crazy like that. Look someone I'm sure will come up with the exact amount, but to be able to see raw talent that has potential and bide ur time can only be done with proper resources and funding."]In what way does funding make the difference? Better food? Better longterm strength and conditioning or skills training? I still dont see how the government funding infrastructure projects at clubs in Dublin to help keep kids out of gangs or off the streets leads to a better intercounty senior team. Maybe the fact that alot of the great team they have currently come from poorer areas has given then a hunger to succeed when up against players from predominantly comfortable backgrounds in other counties. It was often a criticism of many clubs around the country even as late as the 90s that the number of acres your family farmed or the size of the family business directly influenced your chances of being picked to play especially at underage. Most of the worlds great soccer players came from poorer backgrounds also."]GAA apologists are getting really tiresome.
So funding makes no difference in the development of players? Someone should tell professional sports organisations all across the world.
If the extra millions of funding pumped into Dublin has made no difference over the last 15 years then it has been a huge waste of money and out of character for an organisation frequently referred to as "grab all" and should be stopped straight away before any more is wasted.
On the other hand if it has been successfully spent and has caused the collapse of the all Ireland as a serious competition (which IMO it has) then it should be stopped straight away.
Either way what is happening is ridiculous and people who can't see the problem really aren't helping."]dubs always say money has nothing to do with their success even though its very easy for everyone 1 to see that's since the money started being pumped in since 2002 their men's senior team have won a 6 in a row when the holy grail of a 5 never looked like being done before and they've won 8 in 10 years.
Their U20/21 have been in lots of finals winning 4/5 since 2010 and they had nothing to show for the previous how many years.
dublins hurlers were competing at kerrys level and were quite poor but now they're play with the big boys and competing well having won a div 1 title and a leinster and played in an allireland semifinal.
The dublin ladies never raised a gallop in women's football till about 10 years ago and now they have 4 in a row and heading towards 5 this year but we're supposed to believe the money has nothing to do with it.
It's funny if you speak of taking the money away and some dub posters throw a wobbler.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 12618 - 08/05/2021 16:11:52 2340557Link 1
In the last 20 years 6 teams have won the All Ireland hurling title while 7 have won the Football so even with Dublins dominance in the past decade there are still more teams that have won in football. Galway, won their first All Ireland in 30 years along with Limericks emergence over the last few years having not won one for 45 years.Waterford another county that are waiting for a first in over 60 years while it's been 16 years since Cork lifted the Liam McCarthy with Clare winning one so no there are relatively few that are habitual contenders.
In fact , if you look at the hurling and football finals over the last decade the hurling has been far more clean cut.
Now, if the logical progression is that money is the biggest reason for Dublins success in footballing terms then you would expect the hurlers to have had more success.
My point is that the easy option is to point to finances as the main reason for Dublin doing so well while ignoring the lack of success in the other code.
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2261 - 08/05/2021 16:47:55 2340563Link 0