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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "
Replying To AfricanGael:  "And probably pretty savage as well."
Definitely. Given how loyalists are reacting to an "economic United Ireland" created by the protocol imposed upon them the British government . This is mild compared to what will happen when there is an actual United Ireland. The Irish Government will need to have a no nonsense approach."
What you could end up with very easily is a very troublesome ghetto or indeed a number of them, where it wouldn't be safe for the Police to enter. Anyone who believes that there would be a peaceful transition, respect for the ballot box or that the Irish Government would be able to handle large scale unrest have much to learn.

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 27/05/2021 15:26:41    2345918

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just off topic when will fully vaccinated people be able to attend games

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1898 - 27/05/2021 15:27:45    2345920

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "You know all of them personally do you?"
I've met enough of them and been on the recieving end of their freestater rubbish .

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2358 - 27/05/2021 15:28:58    2345922

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Replying To Bon:  "I've met enough of them and been on the recieving end of their freestater rubbish ."
Ah yes, the good old tarring the lot of them with the same brush. That's worked wonders up here for generations. I dont know what was said to you but with you're generalisations on here it's not hard to see why you might have been met with a response you didn't like.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2575 - 27/05/2021 15:46:01    2345927

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Ah yes, the good old tarring the lot of them with the same brush. That's worked wonders up here for generations. I dont know what was said to you but with you're generalisations on here it's not hard to see why you might have been met with a response you didn't like."
It wasn't a response to anything I said.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2358 - 27/05/2021 15:50:30    2345928

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Replying To Bon:  "It wasn't a response to anything I said."
The same point still stands. If you're going to use a forum as a measuring tool to judge everybody in the 6 counties with a republican viewpoint then you're on a slippery path. It's It's equivalent of blaming all unionists for the actions of some loyalist riots/ violence over the last few months. Silly narrow minded rhetoric.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2575 - 27/05/2021 15:59:01    2345931

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "The same point still stands. If you're going to use a forum as a measuring tool to judge everybody in the 6 counties with a republican viewpoint then you're on a slippery path. It's It's equivalent of blaming all unionists for the actions of some loyalist riots/ violence over the last few months. Silly narrow minded rhetoric."
Who's using a forum as a measuring tool??

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2358 - 27/05/2021 16:16:36    2345935

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Irish history is taught from a nationalist perspective. It's very poor. They don't teach much about our generals in the British army or hard fought campaigns all over the world in forging the Empire. Its all Norman invasion, Cromwell...failed up risings ect and the 1916 rising is seen as some sort of messianic pure revolt. No balance. Jez I forgot the 'Famine...the auld Gortha mor. Its only brought up every 10 mins by the beardie teachers and repubkicans....The uprisings failed because the people didn't want them to succeed by the way..spies and informers are used as reasons..all baloney..they didn't have support.
And the patronising tone of the poster who notes the partitionist views in the commuter belt. An awful attitude of superiority...as if we can't come to any conclusions that don't align with his one eyed republicanism. As if being proud of our state as it currently is ,is a heresy or slur on our ancestors. Give me a break. I love Ireland as it is without Northern Ireland . We fought a bitter civil war to keep the 26 counties and to keep Republicans from wrecking the whole island. . The Northern Nationalist view point has no respect for the 'free Stater' like me so why should I respect them. Id prefer a United Ireland with the Unionists but without the Northern Nationalists. Iv more in common with them ,except hurling..but then the Northern Republicans wouldn't know much about hurling either."
Are you by any chance Eoghan Harris in disguise, as this is how he normally posts?

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 396 - 27/05/2021 16:34:32    2345942

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Replying To Bon:  "Who's using a forum as a measuring tool??"
Have a read at your original post.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 396 - 27/05/2021 16:48:22    2345948

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Replying To REDANDBLACK30:  "It means a fairer society. Those with excess wealth with a lot more than they need to live a comfortable life making a fairer contribution to society. People who have lost their job in the pandemic for instance will often have to live on £75 a week. This is the level of JSA in the North. They might get slightly more on Universal credit. They will get vastly less than the €225 or so a week in the Republic. Many will have to use food banks just to get buy. Is this fair?? People become unemployed for many reasons including anxiety and depression, often no fault of the own. In a Socialist society the vunerable will be looked after. The uncapped greed of the rich will be checked."
Fair enough I could go along with that but I do agree the wealthy are not paying their fair share but I also feel success shouldn't be punished, there has to be a fair balance in that regard too.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 27/05/2021 16:49:08    2345949

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Replying To Bon:  "I've met enough of them and been on the recieving end of their freestater rubbish ."
Would you make the same comment about the people in 26 counties who go out of their way to be insulting to those who live in 6 counties, are Irish citizens and whose families played significant roles in the revolutionary years yet have to listen to tripe about being 'less Irish ' often from those whose families where more than happy to lick the boots of the occupiers and played zero role in those same years......interesting those who spout the most of this nonsense have zero family background in the revolutionary years

ArmaghCat (Armagh) - Posts: 86 - 27/05/2021 16:56:13    2345951

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Replying To tireoghainabu:  "Are you by any chance Eoghan Harris in disguise, as this is how he normally posts?"
I'm not no but I do like Harris and what he writes. He represents a fair slice of the country. I dont find anything he writes unfair or wrong. But my views and his wouldn't always align. I just represent myself and I guess alot of my mates think the same. Do you make an effort to look at the Free State point of view...the pride we have in the 26 and the winning of the Civil War. Unfortunately youd swear the losers of the civil war were the goodies judging by the media these days. Iv played against Antrim and Down club teams a few times and they literally had no idea about the complexity of 'down south'. They were more ignorant of us then we were of Northern Ireland.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 27/05/2021 17:30:28    2345953

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Replying To ArmaghCat:  "Would you make the same comment about the people in 26 counties who go out of their way to be insulting to those who live in 6 counties, are Irish citizens and whose families played significant roles in the revolutionary years yet have to listen to tripe about being 'less Irish ' often from those whose families where more than happy to lick the boots of the occupiers and played zero role in those same years......interesting those who spout the most of this nonsense have zero family background in the revolutionary years"
My family were lovers not fighters mate ;)

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2358 - 27/05/2021 17:36:12    2345955

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Replying To Bon:  "Who's using a forum as a measuring tool??"
So you were able to identify their politics without saying anything to them and were still on the 'receiving end' of a load of abuse from them? That's a strange sequence of events. Were you wearing a political billboard over your shoulders or something?

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2575 - 27/05/2021 17:44:38    2345956

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Often the people that 'sleep until noon' as you put it are people that have opted out of the workforce for a variety of reasons. Not all of their own making. People that 'sleep until noon' are entitled to their dignity the same those that get up at 0530. As one of the 0530 brigade have no problem paying taxes to help those that sleep until noon. I would prefer if the wealthy owners of capital adhered to the spirit of taxation and paid their fair share (rather than trying to find loopholes to avoid paying)."
I thought I made it clear I feel if someone has a genuine reason for not working they should be looked after. And I think it is fairly obvious the clientele who I'm criticizing those who use the social welfare as a lifestyle choice because they are too lazy to work and who are able manipulate and fiddle the system to live a more than comfortable life. There is a video on youtube of a couple of lads in Limerick laughing and boosting about being kept by the taxpayer be they in jail or on the outside and they are the type you are sticking up for, JAYSUS! They might be entitled to dignity but I'll be honest I couldn't care less, if you are fit and able to work and are on the dole for more than 2 years you can go out in your community and work in CE schemes for your benefits.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 27/05/2021 17:58:43    2345964

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Replying To ArmaghCat:  "Would you make the same comment about the people in 26 counties who go out of their way to be insulting to those who live in 6 counties, are Irish citizens and whose families played significant roles in the revolutionary years yet have to listen to tripe about being 'less Irish ' often from those whose families where more than happy to lick the boots of the occupiers and played zero role in those same years......interesting those who spout the most of this nonsense have zero family background in the revolutionary years"
The irony of saying people from the North arr seen as "less Irish" when many from the Norths favourite phrases include things like "West Brit" "Free State such and such" these are also Irish citizens yet are seen as being "less Irish" by people who see themselves as being more Irish than anyone.

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1651 - 27/05/2021 18:29:39    2345969

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "So you were able to identify their politics without saying anything to them and were still on the 'receiving end' of a load of abuse from them? That's a strange sequence of events. Were you wearing a political billboard over your shoulders or something?"
Yes "receiving end", you got that right.
I didn't need a billboard, they seemed to think that calling me a freestater bothered me, which it didn't because I couldn't care less, I'm sure there's a lot of people in the south who feel the same.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2358 - 27/05/2021 18:35:07    2345971

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Replying To Bon:  "Yes "receiving end", you got that right.
I didn't need a billboard, they seemed to think that calling me a freestater bothered me, which it didn't because I couldn't care less, I'm sure there's a lot of people in the south who feel the same."
It seems to have bothered you quite a lot.

tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 396 - 27/05/2021 19:31:30    2345982

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Replying To Bon:  "Yes "receiving end", you got that right.
I didn't need a billboard, they seemed to think that calling me a freestater bothered me, which it didn't because I couldn't care less, I'm sure there's a lot of people in the south who feel the same."
You've remained vague about this entire scenario of yours throughout here. You still haven't explained how all '6 county Republicans' have a 'chip on both shoulders'. The fact that you went out of your way to post something like that might suggest you have one yourself actually. But I'm willing to hear your side if you have one beyond sweeping generalisations.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2575 - 27/05/2021 19:38:44    2345986

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The GAA always modeled itself as a 32 county organization. It stood to them a few years ago when there was a bit of an uproar about their awarding of a Croke Park food contract to a company from Tyrone. People said it should have been awarded to a company from the Republic but the GAA said "we are a 32 county organization". Northern Ireland not being singled out there!

TippRed (Tipperary) - Posts: 42 - 27/05/2021 20:04:45    2345990

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