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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Exactly ,you see this is not a journalist who is over concerned about making any great contribution to the safety of the nation but more about an attention grabbing opportunity to sell newspapers and over sensationalise a relatively minor incident.
All this talk of Jim Gavin as you say is just another way to kick Dessie Farrell.
I'd imagine you're probably of a similar vintage to myself and have been around long enough to see that this acts as nothing more than a deflection from what is utter incompetence on the part of the authorities to carry out their responsibilities on anything close to a mediocre standard.
Also, I will no longer be buying one of these newspapers as talk is cheap but the only language that counts with these publications is to stop buying their print."
Your completely missing the point here. Yes its targeted at Dublin and the Dublin players. Why? because they are the pinnacle of the GAA at the moment and the current all-Ireland champions. These ppl are trend setting and should be setting an example, because every other GAA player wants to be like them. That's the point and the issue here...

The bit that annoys me is the absolute brazenness of it when two other teams have been caught and sanctioned. They knew what they were doing but maybe they taught they are above everyone else and do it early in the morning before anyone notices.

But no lets blame the journalist

ponger (Cavan) - Posts: 459 - 02/04/2021 22:10:46    2335845

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I would guess the gaa will alter the DCB s punishment and here is why.Dessie s ban starts now but Cork and Downs ban only starts when training resumes so their bans have nt even started yet although its a couple of months ago.Im open to correction but that's my knowledge of it anyway.Also on Down while they broke gaa rules on training like Cork and Dublin I don't think they broke government rules as at the time Northern rules were more relaxed than the south at that time."
No from what i know The Down managers ban is going to be finished before the league starts, he appealed his 12 weeks and received 8 weeks which is finished or will be within couple of weeks.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 532 - 02/04/2021 22:15:46    2335846

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My god this has certainly gathered legs..I've thd highest admiration for Dublin..really and truly is what happened very serious..I really can't see any major problem..I feel sorry for every player at club and inter county level who can't get on the field..ive a feeling this is going to be s long year for all club players..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1169 - 02/04/2021 22:55:04    2335847

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Replying To ponger:  "Your completely missing the point here. Yes its targeted at Dublin and the Dublin players. Why? because they are the pinnacle of the GAA at the moment and the current all-Ireland champions. These ppl are trend setting and should be setting an example, because every other GAA player wants to be like them. That's the point and the issue here...

The bit that annoys me is the absolute brazenness of it when two other teams have been caught and sanctioned. They knew what they were doing but maybe they taught they are above everyone else and do it early in the morning before anyone notices.

But no lets blame the journalist"
Trend going on here, Cavan posters all against the Dubs.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 494 - 02/04/2021 23:00:41    2335848

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Replying To ponger:  "Your completely missing the point here. Yes its targeted at Dublin and the Dublin players. Why? because they are the pinnacle of the GAA at the moment and the current all-Ireland champions. These ppl are trend setting and should be setting an example, because every other GAA player wants to be like them. That's the point and the issue here...

The bit that annoys me is the absolute brazenness of it when two other teams have been caught and sanctioned. They knew what they were doing but maybe they taught they are above everyone else and do it early in the morning before anyone notices.

But no lets blame the journalist"
Sorry , no. I already said it was wrong and shouldn't have taken place and they will take what punishment was given to other counties caught doing similar. That's the point. But do you think it's justified to have 9 players humiliated on the front pages of newspapers for this indiscretion. Frankly if that's the case I think your being totally unfair. It's an overreaction pure and simple. People are angry and that's fair enough but this is totally out of proportion to what happened and the people who are putting this out repeatedly in those publications are doing no one any great service here. Your entitled to your opinion but don't tell me I'm missing any point because I most definitely am not.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2248 - 02/04/2021 23:10:29    2335849

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Replying To lilylanger:  "That's not true. Cork and Down appealed the decision so their punishments start from the hearing date. Had they accepted it they would be well into their ban by now."
Oh im sorry.I was of the opinion the bans were not to begin until restrictions ended but i accept you know.I believe Down got some time reduced but Cork did nt.Again im open to correction Lily but to my knowledge Down were treated a little different as the psni stated they were elite sports up north at the time.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1594 - 02/04/2021 23:18:21    2335850

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Replying To Yourjoking:  "No from what i know The Down managers ban is going to be finished before the league starts, he appealed his 12 weeks and received 8 weeks which is finished or will be within couple of weeks."
Sorry Yourjoking.I got the wrong end of the stick.Lilylanger explained.Up North at the time i think the psni agreed Down were elite sportspeople so maybe thats why they got a little time off.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1594 - 02/04/2021 23:24:00    2335851

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Replying To ponger:  "Your completely missing the point here. Yes its targeted at Dublin and the Dublin players. Why? because they are the pinnacle of the GAA at the moment and the current all-Ireland champions. These ppl are trend setting and should be setting an example, because every other GAA player wants to be like them. That's the point and the issue here...

The bit that annoys me is the absolute brazenness of it when two other teams have been caught and sanctioned. They knew what they were doing but maybe they taught they are above everyone else and do it early in the morning before anyone notices.

But no lets blame the journalist"
Tbh I find the the idea of a journalist sitting in a Bush at daft o clock in the morning, snapping photos of a few lads having a harmless kick about a bit slapstick, and the subsequent outrage doubly so.
If this is going on most places as some are suggesting, my biggest fear is that our lads here in Galway are sat at home.
Hey lads, get out there and get a move on , championship starts soon :)

Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 386 - 02/04/2021 23:25:45    2335852

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Replying To lilylanger:  "That's not true. Cork and Down appealed the decision so their punishments start from the hearing date. Had they accepted it they would be well into their ban by now."
Oh im sorry.I was of the opinion the bans were not to begin until restrictions ended but i accept you know.I believe Down got some time reduced but Cork did nt.Again im open to correction Lily but to my knowledge Down were treated a little different as the psni stated they were elite sports up north at the time.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1594 - 02/04/2021 23:27:33    2335853

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Forgive me but why is Dessie Farrell being suspended,did he organize/ok the training?was he present?who was the coach that was present?

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 669 - 03/04/2021 00:21:52    2335854

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Sorry , no. I already said it was wrong and shouldn't have taken place and they will take what punishment was given to other counties caught doing similar. That's the point. But do you think it's justified to have 9 players humiliated on the front pages of newspapers for this indiscretion. Frankly if that's the case I think your being totally unfair. It's an overreaction pure and simple. People are angry and that's fair enough but this is totally out of proportion to what happened and the people who are putting this out repeatedly in those publications are doing no one any great service here. Your entitled to your opinion but don't tell me I'm missing any point because I most definitely am not."
I have to agree with you, a few guys went for kick about in a wide open space they put nobody in danger. They are people breaking rules everywhere in the country but the media and government are picking and choosing who they are outraged by.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 842 - 03/04/2021 08:38:11    2335855

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I have to agree with you, a few guys went for kick about in a wide open space they put nobody in danger. They are people breaking rules everywhere in the country but the media and government are picking and choosing who they are outraged by."
That's just how I see it DUALSUPPORT anyway. I think it's a complete overreaction and the fact it's Dublin players doing something they shouldn't have ,is a great way to create a storm in a teacup.
People can have their own take on this but for me it's totally over the top.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2248 - 03/04/2021 09:40:49    2335858

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I have to agree with you, a few guys went for kick about in a wide open space they put nobody in danger. They are people breaking rules everywhere in the country but the media and government are picking and choosing who they are outraged by."
Journalism in general is going nowhere fast, presentation with little content. Dublin made the headlines because they are hot property and everyone's property in the sporting world, if a player got a parking ticket it would make national headlines, if Dessie Farrell got a speeding ticket he would be abrasively scrutinized on "Prime Time Investigates".

Because the decision to go to the beach wasn't sanitized doesn't mean it was a health & safety issue, those 9 lads were humiliated by the media, all in the name of selling papers, sure there was nothing else going on except one or two small issues attached to the Beacon and Coombe hospital that all.

The Gordon Elliott issue, photo of him sitting on a dead horse, two years later was leaked to the media to do maximum damage, and they bought it, however it was sorted and it came to an abrupt speedily end, thankfully.
This photo was leaked, the media bought it, the rest is ever so slightly blemished history.
We should all draw a line in the sand and move on.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2225 - 03/04/2021 10:33:22    2335860

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I have to agree with you, a few guys went for kick about in a wide open space they put nobody in danger. They are people breaking rules everywhere in the country but the media and government are picking and choosing who they are outraged by."
Dublin sell papers. It's the job of journalists to sell newspapers. That's their bottom line. Be it online or hard copy circulation figures are king. Dublin GAA are on the front page because they sell newspapers. It's a storm that will blow over. Take the slaps and move on. Championship is coming. When it comes Dublin will be selling newspapers for other reasons such as winning championships.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 5309 - 03/04/2021 11:21:09    2335862

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Replying To ONdeDITCH:  "Forgive me but why is Dessie Farrell being suspended,did he organize/ok the training?was he present?who was the coach that was present?"
I think that's what's called 'taking one for the team'

greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 844 - 03/04/2021 12:20:29    2335863

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Do they not have enough advantages already?

gahfan (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 03/04/2021 12:30:21    2335864

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "I have to agree with you, a few guys went for kick about in a wide open space they put nobody in danger. They are people breaking rules everywhere in the country but the media and government are picking and choosing who they are outraged by."
Agreed. However this story suits the anti-Dubs begrudger brigade down to a tee.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1063 - 03/04/2021 12:31:00    2335865

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Enda Kenny on the Late Late Show last night has to be the best yet. When asked about the Dubs basically said the book should be thrown at them. Asked about Golfgate in Galway and his response was sure that's in the past and I don't want to talk about it. Now I know which of the two incidents I would consider to be the most serious.

Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 32 - 03/04/2021 13:36:23    2335867

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Sorry , no. I already said it was wrong and shouldn't have taken place and they will take what punishment was given to other counties caught doing similar. That's the point. But do you think it's justified to have 9 players humiliated on the front pages of newspapers for this indiscretion. Frankly if that's the case I think your being totally unfair. It's an overreaction pure and simple. People are angry and that's fair enough but this is totally out of proportion to what happened and the people who are putting this out repeatedly in those publications are doing no one any great service here. Your entitled to your opinion but don't tell me I'm missing any point because I most definitely am not."
I agree it's guttersnipe j. ournalism but the higher one goes the lower the press can bring one down. Dublin are the role models at the moment and have used the press to promote good things so unfortunately there's always a flip side and the people that build you up are the first to knock you down. My own opinion is while I agree it was wrong it was nt a full team session and basically just a play around. I do agree if it was a lower profile county there would not be such a fuss. On a lighter side I got a what's app message saying the reason the reporters were called was they were shocked to see the dubs playing outside of croke park and thought they were lost lol.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 1594 - 03/04/2021 14:20:46    2335870

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Replying To Bon:  "Agreed. However this story suits the anti-Dubs begrudger brigade down to a tee."
Dublin should be made to play there all Ireland semi away from croke Park. They broke the rules let the punishment fit the crime

traleegerry (Kerry) - Posts: 654 - 03/04/2021 14:23:23    2335872

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