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George Clancy And Michael OCallaghan Murders / Limerick 1921 All Ireland Win Centenary

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Just to let posters know yesterday was the centenary anniversary of the murders of George Clancy and Michael O'Callaghan by British auxiliaries in Limerick. There was a live broadcast on the Sporting Limerick facebook page (can't seem to get a link) with stories told of those events and of that time by a few local historians with Mark Foley MC-ing the boardcast. Also there was a chat about Limericks 1921 all-Ireland win which happened to be played in 1923. If anyone has an interest in Irish history or even a bit of interest in sporting history, it would be would be well worth going on the sporting Limerick fb page to have a look, it's just under 2 hours long.

The Limerick county board have brought out a jersey to mark the event, which I'm disappointed with to be honest they didn't put images of Joseph O'Donaghue, George clancy or Michael O'Callaghan who were murdered on the night on the jersey or even Bob McConkey who was Limericks captain for the 1921 all-Ireland win on it either. Cork did a better job with their jersey last year.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 08/03/2021 16:31:16    2333717

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "Just to let posters know yesterday was the centenary anniversary of the murders of George Clancy and Michael O'Callaghan by British auxiliaries in Limerick. There was a live broadcast on the Sporting Limerick facebook page (can't seem to get a link) with stories told of those events and of that time by a few local historians with Mark Foley MC-ing the boardcast. Also there was a chat about Limericks 1921 all-Ireland win which happened to be played in 1923. If anyone has an interest in Irish history or even a bit of interest in sporting history, it would be would be well worth going on the sporting Limerick fb page to have a look, it's just under 2 hours long.

The Limerick county board have brought out a jersey to mark the event, which I'm disappointed with to be honest they didn't put images of Joseph O'Donaghue, George clancy or Michael O'Callaghan who were murdered on the night on the jersey or even Bob McConkey who was Limericks captain for the 1921 all-Ireland win on it either. Cork did a better job with their jersey last year."
R.I.P.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 08/03/2021 17:45:56    2333720

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Replying To Trump2020:  "R.I.P."
Yes, The jersey looks retro, but a bit mundane. Good to see those great men commemorated however.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 08/03/2021 18:28:43    2333722

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "Just to let posters know yesterday was the centenary anniversary of the murders of George Clancy and Michael O'Callaghan by British auxiliaries in Limerick. There was a live broadcast on the Sporting Limerick facebook page (can't seem to get a link) with stories told of those events and of that time by a few local historians with Mark Foley MC-ing the boardcast. Also there was a chat about Limericks 1921 all-Ireland win which happened to be played in 1923. If anyone has an interest in Irish history or even a bit of interest in sporting history, it would be would be well worth going on the sporting Limerick fb page to have a look, it's just under 2 hours long.

The Limerick county board have brought out a jersey to mark the event, which I'm disappointed with to be honest they didn't put images of Joseph O'Donaghue, George clancy or Michael O'Callaghan who were murdered on the night on the jersey or even Bob McConkey who was Limericks captain for the 1921 all-Ireland win on it either. Cork did a better job with their jersey last year."
That Bob McConkey seems to have won 3 AIs with Limerick. His first was in 1918; he captained Limk in 1921; and was still there in 1934, at least, he started the drawn final but doesn't seem to have been involved in the replay. Perhaps Oldtourman can enlighten us a bit more about Bob.

And while we're at it, can anyone tell me the Limerick man with 5 AI senior hurling medals? Oldtourman, please give the others a chance before you answer.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1911 - 13/03/2021 09:15:38    2334056

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "Just to let posters know yesterday was the centenary anniversary of the murders of George Clancy and Michael O'Callaghan by British auxiliaries in Limerick. There was a live broadcast on the Sporting Limerick facebook page (can't seem to get a link) with stories told of those events and of that time by a few local historians with Mark Foley MC-ing the boardcast. Also there was a chat about Limericks 1921 all-Ireland win which happened to be played in 1923. If anyone has an interest in Irish history or even a bit of interest in sporting history, it would be would be well worth going on the sporting Limerick fb page to have a look, it's just under 2 hours long.

The Limerick county board have brought out a jersey to mark the event, which I'm disappointed with to be honest they didn't put images of Joseph O'Donaghue, George clancy or Michael O'Callaghan who were murdered on the night on the jersey or even Bob McConkey who was Limericks captain for the 1921 all-Ireland win on it either. Cork did a better job with their jersey last year."
Don't tell your fellow Limerick man this. Killing fields, he thinks the security forces were heroes.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 14/03/2021 11:12:27    2334131

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That Bob McConkey seems to have won 3 AIs with Limerick. His first was in 1918; he captained Limk in 1921; and was still there in 1934, at least, he started the drawn final but doesn't seem to have been involved in the replay. Perhaps Oldtourman can enlighten us a bit more about Bob.

And while we're at it, can anyone tell me the Limerick man with 5 AI senior hurling medals? Oldtourman, please give the others a chance before you answer."
Bob Mc Conkey was the first man to receive the McCarthy Cup. I haven't much else about him.
I must visit Clancy's Strand, and O'Callaghan's Strand, when next in Limerick, if that is permitted.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 14/03/2021 12:03:44    2334135

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Replying To galwayford:  "Don't tell your fellow Limerick man this. Killing fields, he thinks the security forces were heroes."
Killing fields....
Don't you mean Ormondbannerman?
I think the copy and paste reply to everything should be a give away.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 14/03/2021 14:42:10    2334146

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That Bob McConkey seems to have won 3 AIs with Limerick. His first was in 1918; he captained Limk in 1921; and was still there in 1934, at least, he started the drawn final but doesn't seem to have been involved in the replay. Perhaps Oldtourman can enlighten us a bit more about Bob.

And while we're at it, can anyone tell me the Limerick man with 5 AI senior hurling medals? Oldtourman, please give the others a chance before you answer."
Had to look that up, didn't think any Limerick man won 5.
.Garret Howard Wikipedia tells me, won 5 with Limerick & Dublin in the 20s and thirties.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 14/03/2021 14:59:09    2334149

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That Bob McConkey seems to have won 3 AIs with Limerick. His first was in 1918; he captained Limk in 1921; and was still there in 1934, at least, he started the drawn final but doesn't seem to have been involved in the replay. Perhaps Oldtourman can enlighten us a bit more about Bob.

And while we're at it, can anyone tell me the Limerick man with 5 AI senior hurling medals? Oldtourman, please give the others a chance before you answer."
Bob McConkey was born in Killaloe in 1897, played in the '18 Final V Wexford, captained Limerick in '21 v Dublin when he scored 4 goals and was still there in '34 when he played in the drawn Jubilee, but did not play in the replay ( incidentally Davy Clohessey of Fedamore scored four goals that day)
Garret Howard of Croom won a County medal in '19 , an All Ireland with Limerick in '21, Dublin in '24 and '27, played with Tipperary for a year or two and then returned where he won All Irelands in the Jubilee year of '34 and 36.
In '36 Limerick embarked on an American tour and it was conducted so late that Limerick got a bye into the Munster Final. Tipp were their opponents in the final in Thurles. It was widely thought that a young Tipp team would cash in on the fact that Limerick were just back from an arduous trip. It did not work that way. Tommy Doyle, the famed Tipperary 'Rubber man', who was a spectator at the game, caught the mood of Limericks display that day, in his book 'My Lifetime in Hurling' in which he gave accolades to Howard, among others. He said Mick Mackey was the hero of the hour and created panic in the Tipperary defense where ever he trod. He scored five goals and three points in that game. However he said that Mackey was not alone in glory that day for their half back line consisting of Paddy Clohessey flanked by the veteran wing backs Mickey Crosse and Garrett Howard all touched unexpected heights of brilliance in the Thurles cauldron.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 14/03/2021 21:15:03    2334177

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "That Bob McConkey seems to have won 3 AIs with Limerick. His first was in 1918; he captained Limk in 1921; and was still there in 1934, at least, he started the drawn final but doesn't seem to have been involved in the replay. Perhaps Oldtourman can enlighten us a bit more about Bob.

And while we're at it, can anyone tell me the Limerick man with 5 AI senior hurling medals? Oldtourman, please give the others a chance before you answer."
In addition to the above, I think there is a Limerick man with eight All Ireland medals. Ger Power was born in Limerick, as were both his parents and was four years old before his family moved to Tralee.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 14/03/2021 22:36:00    2334184

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "In addition to the above, I think there is a Limerick man with eight All Ireland medals. Ger Power was born in Limerick, as were both his parents and was four years old before his family moved to Tralee."
You are correct about Ger Power. Didn't his father hurl with Limerick?

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 15/03/2021 10:15:46    2334194

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Bob McConkey was a Clareman. A good few East Clare men from down around Killaloe and O Briens Bridge/ Clonlara would have hurled with Ahane and gone on to represent Limerick. McConkeys Dad was a Doctor in the British army and moved over I think. McConkey was also an excellent rugby player by the way and Hurled for Young Irelands for many a year.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 15/03/2021 19:02:12    2334230

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "You are correct about Ger Power. Didn't his father hurl with Limerick?"
His father Jackie and Grandfather Dave Power both hurled for Limerick. Jackie was a hugely talented hurler and played in several positions for Limerick, from 1936 to 1951. In 1951 he was selected to play in the championship. He was working in Castlebar at the time and for whatever failed to reach Thurles for the start of the game. The County Board suspended him for his failure to appear. It was a most stupid decision to suspend a man who was at the close of his career and had served the county as both a brilliant hurler and footballer for so long. He was involved in the management when the All Ireland was won in 1973

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 15/03/2021 23:12:29    2334256

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "His father Jackie and Grandfather Dave Power both hurled for Limerick. Jackie was a hugely talented hurler and played in several positions for Limerick, from 1936 to 1951. In 1951 he was selected to play in the championship. He was working in Castlebar at the time and for whatever failed to reach Thurles for the start of the game. The County Board suspended him for his failure to appear. It was a most stupid decision to suspend a man who was at the close of his career and had served the county as both a brilliant hurler and footballer for so long. He was involved in the management when the All Ireland was won in 1973"
That seems a daft decision alright. Transport would not have as good back in 1951.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 16/03/2021 11:10:53    2334283

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Cork and Limerick are not the only sport teams commemorating Irish heros, Argentine soccer club Almirante Brown are after unveiling a new commemorative Jersey with the image of Admiral William 'Guillermo' Brown of Foxford Co.Mayo the founder of Argentina's navy on their Jersey.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 16/03/2021 12:31:11    2334296

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "His father Jackie and Grandfather Dave Power both hurled for Limerick. Jackie was a hugely talented hurler and played in several positions for Limerick, from 1936 to 1951. In 1951 he was selected to play in the championship. He was working in Castlebar at the time and for whatever failed to reach Thurles for the start of the game. The County Board suspended him for his failure to appear. It was a most stupid decision to suspend a man who was at the close of his career and had served the county as both a brilliant hurler and footballer for so long. He was involved in the management when the All Ireland was won in 1973"
Might be wrong but think he also played with Kerry. Was trainer when Kerry the junior All Ireland in the early 60s

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 16/03/2021 12:58:34    2334302

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "His father Jackie and Grandfather Dave Power both hurled for Limerick. Jackie was a hugely talented hurler and played in several positions for Limerick, from 1936 to 1951. In 1951 he was selected to play in the championship. He was working in Castlebar at the time and for whatever failed to reach Thurles for the start of the game. The County Board suspended him for his failure to appear. It was a most stupid decision to suspend a man who was at the close of his career and had served the county as both a brilliant hurler and footballer for so long. He was involved in the management when the All Ireland was won in 1973"
Great information, oldtourman. My people are from Limerick, as well as Tipp (not too endeared to that crowd though), and I've cousins in 4-5 other counties. It's always great to hear stories about Limerick's proud hurling history, and it's great to see them all guns blazing now, playing a beautiful, intelligent, yet powerful type of hurling. Too long they were down.

Crazy decision btw, on Power. There was a I hear a person or two in high position, with contacts to the county board, who never saw eye to eye even with the great Mick Mackey. That probably had nothing to do with Jackie Power, but then again Jackie he was an Ahane man, and certain folks in Limerick, especially in around the city, it seems hated anything to do with Ahane.

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 1911 - 16/03/2021 13:02:11    2334304

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I think Ahane were so dominant in the board room and on the field that resentment grew. But there was a huge rivalry with Treaty Sarsfields back in the day and it was bitter. The folk around Thomondgate would be every bit as tight knit as a rural parish. Incidently very few from Thomondgate, Farranshone play with Na Piarsaigh now..I cant think of 1 starter on recent Na Piarsaigh teams.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 16/03/2021 13:42:34    2334312

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Replying To bloodyban:  "I think Ahane were so dominant in the board room and on the field that resentment grew. But there was a huge rivalry with Treaty Sarsfields back in the day and it was bitter. The folk around Thomondgate would be every bit as tight knit as a rural parish. Incidently very few from Thomondgate, Farranshone play with Na Piarsaigh now..I cant think of 1 starter on recent Na Piarsaigh teams."
Bloodyban. They were several clubs had 'it in' for Ahane. Croom and Young Irelands were so anxious to stop their long winning spell that they joined forces to overthrow them- a move that destroyed YI completely and Croom have never been the same since. I'd say clubs like Cappamore, Fedamore and St Patricks were not too keen on them either. Have you read Henry Martin's Unlimited Heartbreak. Much of this stuff is catalogued in it.
Bloodyban, is there any young hurlers from Thomondgate at the present time and if so who do they play for? Is there room for another strong club in the North side of the city.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 16/03/2021 19:13:24    2334345

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Bloodyban. They were several clubs had 'it in' for Ahane. Croom and Young Irelands were so anxious to stop their long winning spell that they joined forces to overthrow them- a move that destroyed YI completely and Croom have never been the same since. I'd say clubs like Cappamore, Fedamore and St Patricks were not too keen on them either. Have you read Henry Martin's Unlimited Heartbreak. Much of this stuff is catalogued in it.
Bloodyban, is there any young hurlers from Thomondgate at the present time and if so who do they play for? Is there room for another strong club in the North side of the city."
I remember playing Abbey Sarfields at u14 or u16 level in the early 00's, they drew players from that side of the city and played in St Munchins and I think the club has since disbanded. To speak as I find alot of their team were only little gurriers and I believe had no real interest in playing hurling, they only went on the field looking to start fights and act the pup.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 16/03/2021 20:48:06    2334352

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