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Larry Mccarthy Takes Over As GAA President

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Larry McCarthy will take over as GAA president tomorrow (Feb 27)

I want to wish him the best of luck in his role, he is an outlier in terms of how he got to the role but I think that will serve the GAA well.

He is probably the best qualified person ever to be president of the association specialising in his day job in teaching sports marketing and management as an Associate Professor in Seton Hall University in the USA.

He will have a number of issues to deal with imo, the covid crisis isn't going away, elitism, the role of clubs, the role of NY in the championship, tv pay deals etc etc.

I thought John Horan had a poor presidency up until last year when his performance during the covid crisis has redeemed his tenure. Others may disagree. I wish him well also.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 330 - 26/02/2021 08:57:51    2332784

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "Larry McCarthy will take over as GAA president tomorrow (Feb 27)

I want to wish him the best of luck in his role, he is an outlier in terms of how he got to the role but I think that will serve the GAA well.

He is probably the best qualified person ever to be president of the association specialising in his day job in teaching sports marketing and management as an Associate Professor in Seton Hall University in the USA.

He will have a number of issues to deal with imo, the covid crisis isn't going away, elitism, the role of clubs, the role of NY in the championship, tv pay deals etc etc.

I thought John Horan had a poor presidency up until last year when his performance during the covid crisis has redeemed his tenure. Others may disagree. I wish him well also."
Horan refused to Deal with the bullock in the room so didn't achieve anything really. He was poor in my opinion but I wish them both luck. It's all very concerning and they should do one isn't it.

tonguey (Cavan) - Posts: 430 - 26/02/2021 09:19:33    2332787

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Larry Mccarthy should be interesting. He has a background in sports management and marketing.
He has been based in America for a number of years so will have a different approach

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2328 - 26/02/2021 09:37:49    2332790

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Good luck to the new President! The GAA is a 32 county body and an organisation for ex pats around the world, and I think this more than ever will be acknowledged which is a good thing.

It's a great opportunity for the GAA in Amercia, probably the best opportunity they'll get to make significant changes that'll benefit them long term.

One concern I've had is the obsession with diluting the inter county season. Yes we need to find a system that benefits the club/county season and a season spilt seems to be the right plan.

I believe if we don't get the balance correct though, GAA in America will be where the major championships will take place in the summer months, where a significant number of our inter county players head stateside in June (post covid of course), and won't remain in Ireland to play for their clubs. We obviously can't stop people travelling but at the same time there isn't much rationale in cutting our major championships short in Ireland, for a cause that will be ignored anyhow, and just results in our inter county players competing in the best championship during the summer outside Ireland.

The split season/fixtures is likely to be the new President's biggest issue and hopefully the correct balance is found.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 786 - 26/02/2021 10:51:23    2332801

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Replying To tonguey:  "Horan refused to Deal with the bullock in the room so didn't achieve anything really. He was poor in my opinion but I wish them both luck. It's all very concerning and they should do one isn't it."
Never taken issue with any of the GAA presidents really but was no fan of Horan. Flip flopping, saying it and taking it back. Sending mixed messages etc. However wish him no ill well only the best. Hopefully the new man will have good leadership skills.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 1229 - 26/02/2021 17:20:55    2332832

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Let's hope he's better than dub john. I wish him well.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 17383 - 26/02/2021 18:08:49    2332834

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Replying To sam1884:  "Good luck to the new President! The GAA is a 32 county body and an organisation for ex pats around the world, and I think this more than ever will be acknowledged which is a good thing.

It's a great opportunity for the GAA in Amercia, probably the best opportunity they'll get to make significant changes that'll benefit them long term.

One concern I've had is the obsession with diluting the inter county season. Yes we need to find a system that benefits the club/county season and a season spilt seems to be the right plan.

I believe if we don't get the balance correct though, GAA in America will be where the major championships will take place in the summer months, where a significant number of our inter county players head stateside in June (post covid of course), and won't remain in Ireland to play for their clubs. We obviously can't stop people travelling but at the same time there isn't much rationale in cutting our major championships short in Ireland, for a cause that will be ignored anyhow, and just results in our inter county players competing in the best championship during the summer outside Ireland.

The split season/fixtures is likely to be the new President's biggest issue and hopefully the correct balance is found."
I think you make some great points there. The split season worked well in 2020 mainly because the club game stayed within the county boundaries. That won't be satisfactory longterm unfortunately even though its the only way I see the split season played over the calender year working.

The intercounty game is what brings in the revenue. Its what the vast majority of gaa fans are interested in and are willing to put their hand in their pocket to see. Therefore there will be little if any change to those structures going forward in terms of game reduction.

Even the much maligned national leagues are significant revenue streams for the GAA both at County board and national level. Even with the intercounty game ending on the second Sunday in August its still very tight to finish the club championships to All Ireland level by mid December. What people often forget when discussing the club game is how many dual players there are to accommodate. It really is the elephant in the room.

In my opinion we will eventually come to a position where the club championships will largely be played without the intercounty players. They will slip in and out when available but the championship will go on with or without them. We are a few years away from that decision mentality wise but we will get there we have to to save the club game from itself. The mentality where its okay for 20+ players to wait around all summer for 1 or 2 is not sustainable. Neither is it sustainable to flog our elite players to death with games all year without rest. Something has to give and this is the only way to fit it all into the one calender year and keep the players at home during the summer.

Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 12 - 26/02/2021 19:07:56    2332837

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "Larry McCarthy will take over as GAA president tomorrow (Feb 27)

I want to wish him the best of luck in his role, he is an outlier in terms of how he got to the role but I think that will serve the GAA well.

He is probably the best qualified person ever to be president of the association specialising in his day job in teaching sports marketing and management as an Associate Professor in Seton Hall University in the USA.

He will have a number of issues to deal with imo, the covid crisis isn't going away, elitism, the role of clubs, the role of NY in the championship, tv pay deals etc etc.

I thought John Horan had a poor presidency up until last year when his performance during the covid crisis has redeemed his tenure. Others may disagree. I wish him well also."
The new President's day job is interesting in the context of marketing the GAA.Will he attempt to improve the product as in competions or will he continiue with the old and failing especially at senior intercounty football level? It will be very interesting to hear and see what he has in store for accomplishing during his tenure.

ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 685 - 26/02/2021 19:41:33    2332840

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Replying To Tadhg2020:  "I think you make some great points there. The split season worked well in 2020 mainly because the club game stayed within the county boundaries. That won't be satisfactory longterm unfortunately even though its the only way I see the split season played over the calender year working.

The intercounty game is what brings in the revenue. Its what the vast majority of gaa fans are interested in and are willing to put their hand in their pocket to see. Therefore there will be little if any change to those structures going forward in terms of game reduction.

Even the much maligned national leagues are significant revenue streams for the GAA both at County board and national level. Even with the intercounty game ending on the second Sunday in August its still very tight to finish the club championships to All Ireland level by mid December. What people often forget when discussing the club game is how many dual players there are to accommodate. It really is the elephant in the room.

In my opinion we will eventually come to a position where the club championships will largely be played without the intercounty players. They will slip in and out when available but the championship will go on with or without them. We are a few years away from that decision mentality wise but we will get there we have to to save the club game from itself. The mentality where its okay for 20+ players to wait around all summer for 1 or 2 is not sustainable. Neither is it sustainable to flog our elite players to death with games all year without rest. Something has to give and this is the only way to fit it all into the one calender year and keep the players at home during the summer."
Thanks and you also make some good points! However whilst clubs will ultimately have to proceed with leagues and secondary competitions without their county players, I don't ever see this being the case for the club championships.

I think the momentum to have a split season is well down the road, and you could see club leagues starting around March, and the end of those competitions and club championships having county players sometime post July.

My point is, if the inter county season finished too early or is diluted too much, especially at the start of university holidays/post exams then it opens the door for those players to take a two month working holiday in the US or London and who could blame them! You then lose the reason for diluting the inter county season.

An early end to the inter county season in Ireland could open up great opportunities for the US/London championships, and provide those championships with big crowds, exposure and good marketing potential.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 786 - 26/02/2021 20:09:30    2332841

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Replying To sam1884:  "Thanks and you also make some good points! However whilst clubs will ultimately have to proceed with leagues and secondary competitions without their county players, I don't ever see this being the case for the club championships.

I think the momentum to have a split season is well down the road, and you could see club leagues starting around March, and the end of those competitions and club championships having county players sometime post July.

My point is, if the inter county season finished too early or is diluted too much, especially at the start of university holidays/post exams then it opens the door for those players to take a two month working holiday in the US or London and who could blame them! You then lose the reason for diluting the inter county season.

An early end to the inter county season in Ireland could open up great opportunities for the US/London championships, and provide those championships with big crowds, exposure and good marketing potential."
I wish him well. He has a big job to do.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 26/02/2021 21:19:02    2332847

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Missed a trick in not getting Burns in whom certainly would have taken on those elephants in the room which is why he ultimately failed getting the desired backing. Good luck to McCarthy don't much about him but hoping he is an improvement on Horan which shouldn't be hard which says what I thought of him.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2502 - 02/03/2021 00:05:32    2333243

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Replying To panamasam:  "Missed a trick in not getting Burns in whom certainly would have taken on those elephants in the room which is why he ultimately failed getting the desired backing. Good luck to McCarthy don't much about him but hoping he is an improvement on Horan which shouldn't be hard which says what I thought of him."
i do be bemused by all the fuss about who is president, no more than county board chairmans, this is Ireland and alot of regimes are already embedded in both GAA governing bodies and indeed county boards, and it makes change very very difficult, I know some changes can occur but it alwasys seems like pulling teeth, outside a few on here, who could reel off the last 5 or 10 GAA presidents..I couldnt go back 3 or 4 let alone that many, yet its a huge thing for debate every time it comes up...if anything, they are nearly better known after when they are no longer GAA president...everyone to their own, but the world will still be spinning tomorrow (and GAA will still go on) regadless of who the President is, absolutely no disrespect to the man or woman who does take over..I am sure they do alot of work we dont see and all that...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 675 - 02/03/2021 15:37:32    2333314

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Is Larry moving to Ireland or will he continue living in New Jersey? All the best to him. Seems like a decent fella.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10562 - 02/03/2021 17:18:53    2333325

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it goes to show how important most GAA followers on here think of who gets President, this post had died a death literally...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 675 - 08/03/2021 15:21:16    2333710

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "it goes to show how important most GAA followers on here think of who gets President, this post had died a death literally..."
It can't be literal as one of these thread forums are an inanimate virtual piece of coding. So you're wrong sugar

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 330 - 08/03/2021 15:30:03    2333712

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Replying To panamasam:  "Missed a trick in not getting Burns in whom certainly would have taken on those elephants in the room which is why he ultimately failed getting the desired backing. Good luck to McCarthy don't much about him but hoping he is an improvement on Horan which shouldn't be hard which says what I thought of him."
Agreed. Burns would have been a breath of fresh air, particularly after the unmitigated disaster that Horan was. McCarthy is taking on an Association far different to the one that he won the election for just 12 months ago. People have finally tired of soundbites and empty gestures that every President since Sean Kelly have ran on.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts: 494 - 08/03/2021 21:14:46    2333737

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "It can't be literal as one of these thread forums are an inanimate virtual piece of coding. So you're wrong sugar"
with technical terms creeping into the topic, I wil pass on the thread in anyevent..15 posts since it started is fairly rocketing topic ok:)

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 675 - 09/03/2021 12:24:10    2333761

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Let's hope he's better than dub john. I wish him well."
Leave me out of this!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 830 - 09/03/2021 12:45:36    2333764

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Replying To Fairplayalways:  "with technical terms creeping into the topic, I wil pass on the thread in anyevent..15 posts since it started is fairly rocketing topic ok:)"
Your grammar is poor for me

tonguey (Cavan) - Posts: 430 - 09/03/2021 15:06:48    2333773

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Replying To tonguey:  "Your grammar is poor for me"
as it would be...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 675 - 09/03/2021 16:32:21    2333774

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