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GAA Announces Loss Of €34.1M

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "No Shannon View its definately not a level playing field..On sponser ship Dublin to my knowledge get about 1million per year from a, I. g.. Kerry I think get over 600.000 from Kerry group. Dublin have many other sponsers.Dublin are the mega rich. Kerry also do foreign fundraising often raising half a million at a time. Cork have sports direct now but did nt hear figures. Limerick don't have a sponser persais but JP Mac looks after them big time. There is a big difference between the top teams and the Leitrim I'm afraid."
Kerry have 14 sponsors listed on their website. A similar amount to Dublin no?

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 17/02/2021 20:17:30    2331755

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Replying To lilylanger:  "Kerry have 14 sponsors listed on their website. A similar amount to Dublin no?"
Not sure tbh but Kerry have nt money problems. Nor do Cork.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 20:42:10    2331763

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Replying To KillingFields:  "There always has and always will be big difference between top teams and Leitrims etc

Do you expect Man City and Liverpool to have similar sponsorship income as Wolves, leeds ie sides in mid table and then sides around the bottom like west brom?
No of course not"
No I did nt expect it to ve different. Alls not fair in the world.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 20:49:49    2331766

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Replying To TheUsername:  "€7000 is at the lower end of the scale. One County's inter-county manager let slip recently that their training costs 20k a week."
Well I read an article that stated most teams were between 4 and 5 grand a week but the biggest part of that was mileage expenses and it stated that would nt affect Dublin Cork City and Galway as much. It did say that McStay claimed to be spending 15 grand a week when he was with the Rossies but again most of his team were travelling big journeys which would account for that. In 2019 Mayo spent big but with back door and alot of away fixtures hotel bills etc add up. As I say no Mon no fun.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 20:58:51    2331767

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I don't know how much money Kerry have. I don't know how much Dublin or the gaa have? I would take a guess and say neither do you. I know well what it's like for other counties especially the counties with little or know money. Counties that have players living and working long distances from their counties and county board struggle to pay their legit expenses. Counties that can't afford lavish foreign holidays or the perks of free gym membership masseurs physios etc like Dublin and oh Kerry and Cork Limerick Tipp and a few other elite counties. I know because I know players that have played for those forgotten counties. Do you worry about them? I would nt think so.!"
No I don't know how much money Kerry gaa have mick, and I wouldn't presume I do like you did with your Kerry have loads of money comment the other day.

I'm all for equality and iv got no problem with what ever money we got in Kerry being shared with the so called weaker counties once it's done across the board and then I want equality in the game which means no reffs that works or lives in a particular can reff that counties games also games to be played in neutral venues even if it means supporters (including myself) miss out on certain games.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/02/2021 21:31:04    2331775

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "Not sure tbh but Kerry have nt money problems. Nor do Cork."
I never said they did.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 17/02/2021 21:41:35    2331779

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Replying To lilylanger:  "Kerry have 14 sponsors listed on their website. A similar amount to Dublin no?"
Cork have 12. Dublin have 9. Very surprised at that. All the talk about Dublin having so many sponsors & divil a bit about Cork & Kerry.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 17/02/2021 21:49:23    2331780

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I'm just after sering that the Gaa actually increased Dublin's percentage of funding again. Although down 600.000 their percentage was up as other counties received less. Now this is disappointing as we were led to believe that the gaa were starting to do things more fairly. However it seems the figure they said the gave Dublin was a mistake. A big mistake. The gaa said they gave Dublin 86.990 last year but when the truth now is the received 745.695e..Now I have always stayed the money thing is wrong but this is bizarre as false info was given out to the public but when John Connellan was promised figures it transpires the gaa made a mistake. Now while I agree again this is not Dublin's fault.the gaa once again are showing special treatment but trying to hide it too. Wrong is wrong every day of the week.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 21:54:44    2331783

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Replying To lilylanger:  "Cork have 12. Dublin have 9. Very surprised at that. All the talk about Dublin having so many sponsors & divil a bit about Cork & Kerry."
Ah look there are sponsers and there are sponsers. I mean like Kerry group are a massive sponser but there are other sponser that are small time and just give small money.There is a club i know in Dublin has over 15 sponser but some are like a plumber working for himself and other are hefty enough. Some sponsers give a few 100e some 1000s and some tens of 1000s. The bigger high profile counties obviously get the best sponsers. Now Dublin are the highest profile and then Cork ré population etc. Kerry are lucky the Kerry group are a massive group. Smaller counties get less sponsership and understandably so. That's why I believe the gaa should give the poorer counties the big money as the elite don't need it anyway. Dublin Cork Kerry will always have the cash. Limerick blessed with JP.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 22:48:44    2331787

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On an aside about JP McManus. Even though his hotel the Adare Manor is closed he is paying the chefs and providing about 200 meals a day to front line staff. What a guy.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 22:50:05    2331788

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "No I don't know how much money Kerry gaa have mick, and I wouldn't presume I do like you did with your Kerry have loads of money comment the other day.

I'm all for equality and iv got no problem with what ever money we got in Kerry being shared with the so called weaker counties once it's done across the board and then I want equality in the game which means no reffs that works or lives in a particular can reff that counties games also games to be played in neutral venues even if it means supporters (including myself) miss out on certain games."
The gaa can share money equally if they choose but the sponsership is tricky. A sponser might not want to sponser a county if some of it has to be shared and for obvolious reasons the big sponser want to go with the team that will advertise them the most I.e the teams that will be on TV the most and so on

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 17/02/2021 22:54:25    2331790

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I'm just after sering that the Gaa actually increased Dublin's percentage of funding again. Although down 600.000 their percentage was up as other counties received less. Now this is disappointing as we were led to believe that the gaa were starting to do things more fairly. However it seems the figure they said the gave Dublin was a mistake. A big mistake. The gaa said they gave Dublin 86.990 last year but when the truth now is the received 745.695e..Now I have always stayed the money thing is wrong but this is bizarre as false info was given out to the public but when John Connellan was promised figures it transpires the gaa made a mistake. Now while I agree again this is not Dublin's fault.the gaa once again are showing special treatment but trying to hide it too. Wrong is wrong every day of the week."
Where was that Mick, I read through the annual accounts on Tuesday evening and our GDF was 89k. Something very odd going on if audited accounts are wrong!

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 17/02/2021 23:37:49    2331795

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I don't know how much money Kerry have. I don't know how much Dublin or the gaa have? I would take a guess and say neither do you. I know well what it's like for other counties especially the counties with little or know money. Counties that have players living and working long distances from their counties and county board struggle to pay their legit expenses. Counties that can't afford lavish foreign holidays or the perks of free gym membership masseurs physios etc like Dublin and oh Kerry and Cork Limerick Tipp and a few other elite counties. I know because I know players that have played for those forgotten counties. Do you worry about them? I would nt think so.!"
A level headed post as always Mick, unlike your fellow Kerryman Mr Rambling Rabbit

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 17/02/2021 23:48:18    2331796

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Replying To galwayford:  "Lets organize a campaign online here to contact the relevant ministers. It should be done respectfully though."
Just don't contact Eamon Ryan.....he likes to sleep in

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 17/02/2021 23:50:30    2331797

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Replying To lilylanger:  "Cork have 12. Dublin have 9. Very surprised at that. All the talk about Dublin having so many sponsors & divil a bit about Cork & Kerry."
The number of sponsors is irrelevant. It's the amount of money they give that counts.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2478 - 18/02/2021 01:46:38    2331803

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "I'm just after sering that the Gaa actually increased Dublin's percentage of funding again. Although down 600.000 their percentage was up as other counties received less. Now this is disappointing as we were led to believe that the gaa were starting to do things more fairly. However it seems the figure they said the gave Dublin was a mistake. A big mistake. The gaa said they gave Dublin 86.990 last year but when the truth now is the received 745.695e..Now I have always stayed the money thing is wrong but this is bizarre as false info was given out to the public but when John Connellan was promised figures it transpires the gaa made a mistake. Now while I agree again this is not Dublin's fault.the gaa once again are showing special treatment but trying to hide it too. Wrong is wrong every day of the week."
Mick you're kinda making it out that the GAA are somehow a separate entity to dublin when most of the high up fellas running the GAA are or have been afilliated to dublin clubs at 1 stage or another.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 18/02/2021 10:13:20    2331816

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "The number of sponsors is irrelevant. It's the amount of money they give that counts."
How do we know how much each sponsor gives? So in the case of cork we know what the main sponsors of sports direct give as that has been announced. Same with AIG or The Kerry etc. Is there a breakdown of monies the other sponsors give or what way does it work?

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 18/02/2021 10:19:56    2331818

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Where was that Mick, I read through the annual accounts on Tuesday evening and our GDF was 89k. Something very odd going on if audited accounts are wrong!"
Someone sent it to me from the mirror newspaper Username. The gaa said the figures were a mistake. They did say 86k the other day but it was 770k or thereabouts

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 18/02/2021 11:11:23    2331825

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Replying To lilylanger:  "How do we know how much each sponsor gives? So in the case of cork we know what the main sponsors of sports direct give as that has been announced. Same with AIG or The Kerry etc. Is there a breakdown of monies the other sponsors give or what way does it work?"
I'm sure it can be found out as all sponser would declare because of tax write offs etc. As Ivw stated already though some sponser are very low scale for example a laundrette washing the jerseys for free is a sponser but they. might not give money.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 18/02/2021 11:18:02    2331830

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Mick you're kinda making it out that the GAA are somehow a separate entity to dublin when most of the high up fellas running the GAA are or have been afilliated to dublin clubs at 1 stage or another."
Kboy of course the Gaa are are seperate entity from Dublin. The gaa like to see Dublin do well as they can bring in the money but they totally seperate. On the money I don't think you understand either
While I agree it's unfair the money is for coaching and does nt go to the senior intercounty teams. Dubs senior teams are mainly looked after by sponser like ourselves

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 18/02/2021 11:21:51    2331832

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