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Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "Before my time but my father mentioned him to me a few times in conversation. But still that's very poor showing for Limerick in the international soccer scene 2 since the 70's and Steve Finnan is retired since 2008 and not 1 Limerick man since him has played for Ireland. There is only 3 Limerick men that I know of playing soccer in England now,and they are from county Limerick and they are also in lower divisions Anthony Forde(Ballingarry), Damien McCrory(Croom) and Paudie O'Connor(Kilcornan)." Correct. And if Steve Finnan had stayed in Limerick would he have had the career he had? johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 29/08/2021 21:53:30 2376186 Link
Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "Before my time but my father mentioned him to me a few times in conversation. But still that's very poor showing for Limerick in the international soccer scene 2 since the 70's and Steve Finnan is retired since 2008 and not 1 Limerick man since him has played for Ireland. There is only 3 Limerick men that I know of playing soccer in England now,and they are from county Limerick and they are also in lower divisions Anthony Forde(Ballingarry), Damien McCrory(Croom) and Paudie O'Connor(Kilcornan)." Steve Finnan learned the game in England. And as a footnote - Ireland played France in November 1952 in Dalymount Park and three Limerick men started that game - Johnny Gavin, Bud Aherne and Sean Cusack. How things and times have changed since then. johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 29/08/2021 21:56:07 2376188 Link
Replying To johnocarroll17: "Steve Finnan learned the game in England. And as a footnote - Ireland played France in November 1952 in Dalymount Park and three Limerick men started that game - Johnny Gavin, Bud Aherne and Sean Cusack. How things and times have changed since then." Thanks for that bit of trivia john, I googled that game there. You are probably right about Steve Finnan, but he is still a Limerick man and we should be very proud of him here. DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 29/08/2021 23:32:09 2376220 Link
Replying To updwell: "Junior soccer and AIL clubs are not elite level- there the same level as club GAA. In the last 20 years Limerick city has not had multiple Lions capstains or even many regular Irish rugby internationals with 10 caps or more and definitely none in soccer. Thats elite level which I'm talking about not participation numbers." I wouldnt agree that A.I.L rugby is the equivalent of club GAA. That's patently not the case. You have a few fully pro and semi pro players playing in Division 1 and 2 in tbe Rugby. And a AIL division 1 player would be athletically superior to a club gaa player. Different level. I do take your overall point. It seems like Junior soccer and its competitiveness doesn't translate into good senior players.. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 30/08/2021 08:56:47 2376258 Link
What was better. 2nd half v Tipp 1st half v Cork daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 30/08/2021 11:57:42 2376336 Link
Replying To daveboy: "What was better. 2nd half v Tipp 1st half v Cork" Tipp. To be that far behind and to produce hurling at that level, almost flawless, was some achievement. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 30/08/2021 12:19:06 2376347 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "I wouldnt agree that A.I.L rugby is the equivalent of club GAA. That's patently not the case. You have a few fully pro and semi pro players playing in Division 1 and 2 in tbe Rugby. And a AIL division 1 player would be athletically superior to a club gaa player. Different level. I do take your overall point. It seems like Junior soccer and its competitiveness doesn't translate into good senior players.." I think your overeating amateur rugby players there bloodyban, I've seen a few of them playing GAA and they gasping for breath. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 904 - 30/08/2021 15:18:54 2376452 Link
Congratulations on a superb performance on Final Day. Really sorry to hear about Peter C massive loss to NAP & Limerick hope he makes full recovery clooney (Clare) - Posts: 988 - 30/08/2021 17:00:42 2376490 Link
With the local championships at different levels starting over the weekend hopefully a few of the younger county players and a few outside the senior team put their hands up and make a play for inclusion next year. We need to keep improving and evolving and adding to the group. I'm sure Kiely and Kinnerk are looking for more additions to come through. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 904 - 01/09/2021 12:31:12 2376974 Link
Replying To updwell: "With the local championships at different levels starting over the weekend hopefully a few of the younger county players and a few outside the senior team put their hands up and make a play for inclusion next year. We need to keep improving and evolving and adding to the group. I'm sure Kiely and Kinnerk are looking for more additions to come through." Good point updwell. After the government announcement yesterday will it be easier to get to club games from now on? It would be great to get to see club games but the announcement yesterday seems to mention 'in line with capacity for outdoor events'. I'd say the capacity for somewhere like KIlmallock is well known but what about local grounds? I know tickets are on sale for some club games and even getting tickets for the 2020 Cork county football final last week was difficult (wasn't there but know people who were). Hopefully these games are accessible to more fans as we near the end of 2021. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 01/09/2021 15:05:12 2377029 Link
Replying To slayer: "Good point updwell. After the government announcement yesterday will it be easier to get to club games from now on? It would be great to get to see club games but the announcement yesterday seems to mention 'in line with capacity for outdoor events'. I'd say the capacity for somewhere like KIlmallock is well known but what about local grounds? I know tickets are on sale for some club games and even getting tickets for the 2020 Cork county football final last week was difficult (wasn't there but know people who were). Hopefully these games are accessible to more fans as we near the end of 2021." Only 500 at Patrickswell/Doon in GG on Sunday. That will increase after Monday but 500 in a stadium that can hold 40,000 while Croker had 40,000 in an 80,000 stadium doesn't add up. If it had been fully opened you still would only get 4,000 max at the game. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 904 - 01/09/2021 16:43:45 2377065 Link
I think the curtailed league has made it harder for panel members to put up their hands for selection. Also if your over u21 the fact the intercounty intermediate championship is now defunct makes it harder too, if Limerick still had an intermediate team the likes of Brian Ryan, Josh Considine, Mark Quinlan and Brian O'Grady would have a better outlet to show their worth. Next season we might have Paddy O'Loughin and Mike Casey back too and I hope Greame Mulcahy stays on. From the U20 panel Cathal O'Neill and Colin Cloughlan are already involved other than them maybe Diarmuid Hegarty, Adam English and Aidan O'Connor are the only 1's I think would make it and maybe Ethan Hurley if he improves and gets the right coaching. John Kiely and Paul Kinnerk go to alot of club games if a guy plays well consistently for his club, you would think they would give him a chance if they thought he would fit in and adapt to their methods and game plan. DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 01/09/2021 22:32:42 2377139 Link
Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "I think the curtailed league has made it harder for panel members to put up their hands for selection. Also if your over u21 the fact the intercounty intermediate championship is now defunct makes it harder too, if Limerick still had an intermediate team the likes of Brian Ryan, Josh Considine, Mark Quinlan and Brian O'Grady would have a better outlet to show their worth. Next season we might have Paddy O'Loughin and Mike Casey back too and I hope Greame Mulcahy stays on. From the U20 panel Cathal O'Neill and Colin Cloughlan are already involved other than them maybe Diarmuid Hegarty, Adam English and Aidan O'Connor are the only 1's I think would make it and maybe Ethan Hurley if he improves and gets the right coaching. John Kiely and Paul Kinnerk go to alot of club games if a guy plays well consistently for his club, you would think they would give him a chance if they thought he would fit in and adapt to their methods and game plan." The intermediate championship had the potential to be a really good competition if the interest in it had been there johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 02/09/2021 13:43:22 2377256 Link
Replying To johnocarroll17: "The intermediate championship had the potential to be a really good competition if the interest in it had been there" A bit of outside the box thinking, if the count board wanted an Intermediate team, I wonder would there be an appetite to have one and enter the Christy Ring or Joe Mc Donagh? Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 752 - 02/09/2021 15:47:21 2377293 Link
Replying To Southsham: "A bit of outside the box thinking, if the count board wanted an Intermediate team, I wonder would there be an appetite to have one and enter the Christy Ring or Joe Mc Donagh?" Very good idea. johnocarroll17 (Limerick) - Posts: 408 - 02/09/2021 22:53:50 2377420 Link
Replying To Southsham: "A bit of outside the box thinking, if the count board wanted an Intermediate team, I wonder would there be an appetite to have one and enter the Christy Ring or Joe Mc Donagh?" Good idea but Kiely and Kinnerk have most likely given thought to that concept. PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1377 - 03/09/2021 01:08:11 2377440 Link
Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "I think the curtailed league has made it harder for panel members to put up their hands for selection. Also if your over u21 the fact the intercounty intermediate championship is now defunct makes it harder too, if Limerick still had an intermediate team the likes of Brian Ryan, Josh Considine, Mark Quinlan and Brian O'Grady would have a better outlet to show their worth. Next season we might have Paddy O'Loughin and Mike Casey back too and I hope Greame Mulcahy stays on. From the U20 panel Cathal O'Neill and Colin Cloughlan are already involved other than them maybe Diarmuid Hegarty, Adam English and Aidan O'Connor are the only 1's I think would make it and maybe Ethan Hurley if he improves and gets the right coaching. John Kiely and Paul Kinnerk go to alot of club games if a guy plays well consistently for his club, you would think they would give him a chance if they thought he would fit in and adapt to their methods and game plan." Dunno, I think Mulcahy could go this year. I think Kiely might ask him to stay on because of Caseys injury but Mulcahy hasn't hit form in a few years now. It ll be interesting to see who makes the panel now..what new players there are. Limerick barely used the bench in the All Ireland which is a pity,especially when the game was won. There ll be a big battle for that roving corner forward role. I'd like to see Pat Ryan put his hand up but I'd also like to see other challengers. There aren't many. Cathal O Neill isn't really a corner forward and the under 20s corner forwards were OK.. not up to the standard of Barratt from Cork or Connolly. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 03/09/2021 13:55:23 2377558 Link
Replying To Southsham: "A bit of outside the box thinking, if the count board wanted an Intermediate team, I wonder would there be an appetite to have one and enter the Christy Ring or Joe Mc Donagh?" I would like to see the intermediate championship back in some form. Even the u25 version had some merit. But that is up to the top counties to push. I couldn't agree with entering a county's second team in any of the other senior championships. The counties playing at that level have enough obstacles put in the way of hurling development without having to deal with a second string from Kilkenny, Limerick Tipp etc. There are other more important and effective ways of developing players with second level colleges top of my list. We should be doing everything we can to get as many young players into the Harty Cup as we can. Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 980 - 03/09/2021 14:47:33 2377586 Link
Replying To Westfester: "I would like to see the intermediate championship back in some form. Even the u25 version had some merit. But that is up to the top counties to push. I couldn't agree with entering a county's second team in any of the other senior championships. The counties playing at that level have enough obstacles put in the way of hurling development without having to deal with a second string from Kilkenny, Limerick Tipp etc. There are other more important and effective ways of developing players with second level colleges top of my list. We should be doing everything we can to get as many young players into the Harty Cup as we can." I'd agree that the counties playing at that level would not be in favour, the other way to look at is if they cannot beat a second team from Limerick/Tipp Etc should they be going up to play the 1st team? Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 752 - 03/09/2021 17:41:10 2377625 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Dunno, I think Mulcahy could go this year. I think Kiely might ask him to stay on because of Caseys injury but Mulcahy hasn't hit form in a few years now. It ll be interesting to see who makes the panel now..what new players there are. Limerick barely used the bench in the All Ireland which is a pity,especially when the game was won. There ll be a big battle for that roving corner forward role. I'd like to see Pat Ryan put his hand up but I'd also like to see other challengers. There aren't many. Cathal O Neill isn't really a corner forward and the under 20s corner forwards were OK.. not up to the standard of Barratt from Cork or Connolly." Greame Mulcahy is 31 that is an age now I suppose where lads are in twilight of their of their inter-county careers but I think there is another year in him still, I would like to see him stay on. But he will have big competition for the vacant corner forward position with Casey out. Your right Pat Ryan could see this as his opportunity and I agree Cathal O'Neill is not a corner forward, Tj Ryan made that mistake with playing Cian Lynch there when Lynch first came on the panel. Adam English is still very young but who knows he could be able to step up. I always liked the look of Oisin O'Reilly when he was on the underage teams a couple of years back he had pace to run at his man and could get goals but I don't know is even on the panel still. Your right about Cork too producing the top forwards and hurlers at the moment, it's something the Limerick academy have to think about and time doesn't be long going we'll need to produce another few good underage teams because the guys on senior panel now won't be around forever. DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 04/09/2021 19:58:18 2377821 Link