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Replying To skillet: "Logical but narrow definition of who's entitled to tickets IMO.
I have paid into the local club development draw, been a member of the Mackey draw and others over the years.
as far as I'm concerned I've paid my dues along the way. But by your reckoning I'm still not deserving a ticket because I don't 'contribute'..
I suppose we won't agree and I don't want to get into a long winded argument with you on this.. I only responded because I felt that there are plenty of limerick hurling supporters who for whatever reason don't fit into the whole hearted club member ideal..
Finally, I have family members who got tickets through the home club and were told by the chairman that demand wasn't as huge as they thought it would be. Everyone who wanted a ticket got one.
Spoke to a friend last night who told me that everyone in his (different) club who wanted a ticket got sorted also . He actually rang me to see if I wanted one as he had a spare. So I dunno, I think it's good that a handful of tickets were made available to those of us on the periphery." I can empathize with your post as it replicates my own situation very closely. I was very engaged with my home club a number of years ago. I'm living in a different parish now with 4 daughters so naturally, my engagement is with the camogie club here. Anybody who knows me knows that I've worked hard for them in a number of facets. I'm a coach, club officer, sponsor, facilitator, Covid Supervisor. I'm also a member of the local GAA club and it's lotto. I'm still hoping that the county board will get a few more tickets and that the club secretary will send me one.
I was a Limerick season ticket holder but that avenue is also closed at present. That was my guarantee and I'll be going back into that scheme as soon as I can.
As it transpires, the brother managed to get me 2 tickets from my native parish so at least myself and one of the daughters will be in Croke Park. If I get another ticket, I'll bring another of the girls. They play camogie and they love following Limerick.
The bottom line is that the camogie and ladies gaelic football clubs need to be merged at local, county and national level. It will not only more or less guarantee me a ticket for me, it will allow Gaelic Games to progress coherently. The Camogie organization really struggles as it has no facilities in its name and it's utterly underfunded. The situation was not helped by poor administration which to be fair is now improving but there's a compelling case for a total merger.
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Good luck to our lads today. Hopefully they do themselves justice.
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Well done on a great performance today..I would say the first half was as good as second half v tipp..also well done to all who didn't rise to the bait with some of the Waterford boys..gearoid,Cian,Shamie and gillane were targeted big time..it's a pity for Peter because it does look as if he used his head,but anyone who knows and follows limerick hurling knows that is not in his character..also thought ref gave limerick nothing in second half..
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Great win. Waterford were completely snuffed out. Pity about Casey but id be worried about Nash. A nasty looking knee injury..he walked off but I hope it isn't serious. He's very important..
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Replying To Dealer: "I can empathize with your post as it replicates my own situation very closely. I was very engaged with my home club a number of years ago. I'm living in a different parish now with 4 daughters so naturally, my engagement is with the camogie club here. Anybody who knows me knows that I've worked hard for them in a number of facets. I'm a coach, club officer, sponsor, facilitator, Covid Supervisor. I'm also a member of the local GAA club and it's lotto. I'm still hoping that the county board will get a few more tickets and that the club secretary will send me one.
I was a Limerick season ticket holder but that avenue is also closed at present. That was my guarantee and I'll be going back into that scheme as soon as I can.
As it transpires, the brother managed to get me 2 tickets from my native parish so at least myself and one of the daughters will be in Croke Park. If I get another ticket, I'll bring another of the girls. They play camogie and they love following Limerick.
The bottom line is that the camogie and ladies gaelic football clubs need to be merged at local, county and national level. It will not only more or less guarantee me a ticket for me, it will allow Gaelic Games to progress coherently. The Camogie organization really struggles as it has no facilities in its name and it's utterly underfunded. The situation was not helped by poor administration which to be fair is now improving but there's a compelling case for a total merger." Whats the situation regarding the ticket holders name having to be on the ticket,is that correct?
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Not going to comment much. The first quarter was as enjoyable as I've ever watched. Credit to both teams. I think the goal was important. Not because it had a bearing on the winning of the game, but becoz Gillane got it. Okay, he does get goals, but he's been putting goal opportunities over the bar a lot, over the past few years. He did it again in the first-half yesterday. For him, I think that hitting the back of the net yesterday, when he did, facing into an AI final is a huge psychological boost.
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I'm always on Gillanes case with the goal chances and I was happy he got that one. Now the miss in the first half was desperate. He should just keep his head down and go low every time. Iv gone over the replay of the goal he got. Great finish but he actually hit the underside of the crossbar...I kid you not ..
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Well done the Limerick hurlers 3 all Ireland appearances in 4 years who would have thought this 4 or 5 years ago. I think Waterford might feel they didn't play their best game but in fairness to our lads they didn't let them. Lads I thought Peter Casey's red card was very harsh, the Waterford lad went down very easy and there was no intent from Casey he was trying to break away from being held and it was the umpires who advised the referee but the same umpires never once brought it to the referees attention of Conor Prunty persistent holding and fouling on Aaron Gillane all through the 2nd half, after yesterday you can see how Gillane gets frustrated when alot of fouls on him don't get called. I hope Limerick do right by Peter Casey and appeal his red card he didn't deserve it and i feel he fell victim of the media scrutiny on 'Limerick's foul play'. Look all the lads played very well I thought, but if I was to give a man of the match I would give it to Dan Morrissey the way he marked Austin Gleeson out of the game and his distribution of the ball out of the full back was very good, also Nickie Quaid in the goals did everything asked of him and his saved stop Waterford gaining momentum at crucial times. I must mention Kyle Hayes flick near the end too he timed it perfectly. Our forwards were unplayable yesterday and some of the points Gillane and Flanagan got at tight angles were fantastic watching them go over the bar also I'm delighted to see Cian Lynch taking on his own score more often, at times he tried not to be greedy and passes it off but now he is popping up with 3 or 4 points a game now. Without meaning to be too harsh after a good win I would only criticise our over playing of the ball with short passing in congested areas and Waterford were to dispossess Limerick on a couple of occasions and we hit a couple of bad wides but no taking from the performance and win, well done everyone involved. Also best wishes to Barry Nash hopefully he is alright he walked off the field himself which is hopefully a good sign.
Away from the field I want to have a bit of a moan, thankfully I escaped the big hold up yesterday, I was a small bit behind the accident and managed to get around it. I'm sick of every game in Dublin I go to is held up by clowns causing accidents on the road, people flying and running into the backs of other cars when they meet a hold up and people causing accidents trying to weave in and out traffic, I don't know what that driver thinking he could get that truck stacked 3 bales high underneath that bridge in Naas, fella's can call me what they want after this but I think it was pure stupidity and more to the point thankfully no-one got hurt.
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Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "Well done the Limerick hurlers 3 all Ireland appearances in 4 years who would have thought this 4 or 5 years ago. I think Waterford might feel they didn't play their best game but in fairness to our lads they didn't let them. Lads I thought Peter Casey's red card was very harsh, the Waterford lad went down very easy and there was no intent from Casey he was trying to break away from being held and it was the umpires who advised the referee but the same umpires never once brought it to the referees attention of Conor Prunty persistent holding and fouling on Aaron Gillane all through the 2nd half, after yesterday you can see how Gillane gets frustrated when alot of fouls on him don't get called. I hope Limerick do right by Peter Casey and appeal his red card he didn't deserve it and i feel he fell victim of the media scrutiny on 'Limerick's foul play'. Look all the lads played very well I thought, but if I was to give a man of the match I would give it to Dan Morrissey the way he marked Austin Gleeson out of the game and his distribution of the ball out of the full back was very good, also Nickie Quaid in the goals did everything asked of him and his saved stop Waterford gaining momentum at crucial times. I must mention Kyle Hayes flick near the end too he timed it perfectly. Our forwards were unplayable yesterday and some of the points Gillane and Flanagan got at tight angles were fantastic watching them go over the bar also I'm delighted to see Cian Lynch taking on his own score more often, at times he tried not to be greedy and passes it off but now he is popping up with 3 or 4 points a game now. Without meaning to be too harsh after a good win I would only criticise our over playing of the ball with short passing in congested areas and Waterford were to dispossess Limerick on a couple of occasions and we hit a couple of bad wides but no taking from the performance and win, well done everyone involved. Also best wishes to Barry Nash hopefully he is alright he walked off the field himself which is hopefully a good sign.
Away from the field I want to have a bit of a moan, thankfully I escaped the big hold up yesterday, I was a small bit behind the accident and managed to get around it. I'm sick of every game in Dublin I go to is held up by clowns causing accidents on the road, people flying and running into the backs of other cars when they meet a hold up and people causing accidents trying to weave in and out traffic, I don't know what that driver thinking he could get that truck stacked 3 bales high underneath that bridge in Naas, fella's can call me what they want after this but I think it was pure stupidity and more to the point thankfully no-one got hurt." I agree with a lot of what you say, especially about Dan Morrissey. He wins the one-on-one battles, but also gives that great reassurance to the back-line.
However, I wouldn't agree with appealing Peter Casey's red card. We can all see what it is. Limerick has always been a manly county; defend to the death! But don't defend the indefensible.
In my eyes, Casey was wrong. He was caught. He serves the punishment.
Hurtful, but true.
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Yesterday:
Was extremely lucky to get a ticket for the semi. Was surprised Waterford didn't have more scores put up in the first 15 mins, considering they should have had a sharper touch.
That second quarter was absolutely magical. Lovely spread of scorers. I agree with dualsport, at times we overplayed the ball. That would be my only negative of the first half.
Hegarty was singled out big time but kept at it throughout.
T Morrissey was slow off the mark but had a brilliant game overall. Thought the defence in general was super.
The goal killed off the contest. I'll get to the P Casey huge blow later....
Today:
Cork aren't just a good running team. Have developed a solid defence and have developed steel. Love the open spaces in Croke Park.
I think Cork has a much better bench than Limerick, that's one of my worries for the next day out. The Peter Casey sending off is monumental.
Will miss him for his speed of touch and thought. It also has made the bench even lighter by having to play Mulcahy from the start. Kiely didn't bring on the bench early yesterday. I don't think the trust is there. The last day out against Cork Morrissey, Hegarty were brought off early. If one of those lads has an off day for whatever reason who do we bring on?
The ref got the red card against Limerick out of the system. Peter Casey was a casualty. Really harsh on him but the way the commentators spoke about it doesn't give me hope. I hope Kiely does appeal regardless.
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First of all, congratulations to the lads on a very solid performance yesterday start to finish.
It was an honour to have been lucky enough to be there under the present circumstances.
Have to say full credit to our " hotheads " obviously I say that affectionately. I thought Hegarty, Gillane, Hayes, Byrnes and Flannagan all got serious physical attention and they sailed through, hitting back where it counts between the posts, honestly Hegarty was straight out of the fridge cool under the physical pounding het got early on.
Peter Casey was the last lad I expected to get a straight red, even though it was harmless enough I think it will be difficult to have it rescinded. My heart goes out to him if he looses out on the final..
Congrats to the rebels today they dug deep in the well to overcome the cats.
Makes for a mouth watering final, corks pace is unreal upfront it will be some game of chess.
So if Peter can't start will it be mulcahy straight in? Is 60 mins plus a lot to ask of him this year?
What are the options ? John kiely likes to get Reidy on, could be Boylan or a big target man with pace in Pat Ryan, I imagine cathal is still a bit young and inexperienced at senior level to start, or is he?
Barry murphy? Obviously I've no idea, just interested in what people think so don't be too hard.
It would be great if Peter was cut some slack here and a choice not have to be made.
Again well done to all.
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Replying To jimbob50: "First of all, congratulations to the lads on a very solid performance yesterday start to finish.
It was an honour to have been lucky enough to be there under the present circumstances.
Have to say full credit to our " hotheads " obviously I say that affectionately. I thought Hegarty, Gillane, Hayes, Byrnes and Flannagan all got serious physical attention and they sailed through, hitting back where it counts between the posts, honestly Hegarty was straight out of the fridge cool under the physical pounding het got early on.
Peter Casey was the last lad I expected to get a straight red, even though it was harmless enough I think it will be difficult to have it rescinded. My heart goes out to him if he looses out on the final..
Congrats to the rebels today they dug deep in the well to overcome the cats.
Makes for a mouth watering final, corks pace is unreal upfront it will be some game of chess.
So if Peter can't start will it be mulcahy straight in? Is 60 mins plus a lot to ask of him this year?
What are the options ? John kiely likes to get Reidy on, could be Boylan or a big target man with pace in Pat Ryan, I imagine cathal is still a bit young and inexperienced at senior level to start, or is he?
Barry murphy? Obviously I've no idea, just interested in what people think so don't be too hard.
It would be great if Peter was cut some slack here and a choice not have to be made.
Again well done to all." You're absolutely spot on, Waterford gave our lads plenty of attention, the amount of off the ball pulling and dragging was ridiculous.. They were looking for a reaction and unfortunately got it with Peter Casey.
One of the most distasteful parts of his sending off is the absolute drama out of Gleeson when he got touched.. You'd swear Casey hit him with the hurley he went down so easily..
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is it just me or is a combined media,social media, journalists and everyone talking up cork hoping they win the all ireland . is it the 16 year gap or is it an unspoken feeling that the powers that be want limerick out. maybe im being paranoid but i dont know
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Replying To hillman: "is it just me or is a combined media,social media, journalists and everyone talking up cork hoping they win the all ireland . is it the 16 year gap or is it an unspoken feeling that the powers that be want limerick out. maybe im being paranoid but i dont know" No I completely agree. Listened back to the game on RTE. It absolutely kills Duignan to give us a bit of praise. Hegarty got blown against for basically running after callum Lyons. He just fell over and got a free. Then very soon afterwards Nash hits a square shoulder and that's a free. Those frees gave Waterford the impetus to get back into the game. Soon afterwards they were within 6 points. Commentators were itching for Limerick to get a red and they got it. Yes Gillane should have seen red the last day but that's hard on Casey. Dying for Cork to win
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Hillman I've passed the comment on the national forum that I feel a lot of neutrals are hoping cork beat limerick.its a long time since one of the top 3 counties will have bulk of support..I'm hoping our boys put cork to the sword and take every goal chance given and put game to bed early..I'd love to see kiely do something unexpected,everyone will expect Mul to start..
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For me they need to start someone other than Mulcahy. His form hasn't been up to his own high standards for a while. Id like Kiely to take a punt on someone else maybe Pat Ryan with his blinding pace. Nothing ventured ,nothing gained. Limerick didn't give the finishers much chance to finish on Saturday. They left it very late to bring on subs which I was disappointed with.
bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 08/08/2021 23:35:50
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Replying To jimbob50: "First of all, congratulations to the lads on a very solid performance yesterday start to finish.
It was an honour to have been lucky enough to be there under the present circumstances.
Have to say full credit to our " hotheads " obviously I say that affectionately. I thought Hegarty, Gillane, Hayes, Byrnes and Flannagan all got serious physical attention and they sailed through, hitting back where it counts between the posts, honestly Hegarty was straight out of the fridge cool under the physical pounding het got early on.
Peter Casey was the last lad I expected to get a straight red, even though it was harmless enough I think it will be difficult to have it rescinded. My heart goes out to him if he looses out on the final..
Congrats to the rebels today they dug deep in the well to overcome the cats.
Makes for a mouth watering final, corks pace is unreal upfront it will be some game of chess.
So if Peter can't start will it be mulcahy straight in? Is 60 mins plus a lot to ask of him this year?
What are the options ? John kiely likes to get Reidy on, could be Boylan or a big target man with pace in Pat Ryan, I imagine cathal is still a bit young and inexperienced at senior level to start, or is he?
Barry murphy? Obviously I've no idea, just interested in what people think so don't be too hard.
It would be great if Peter was cut some slack here and a choice not have to be made.
Again well done to all." Agree with so much of that. Just posted similar in the hurling thread. Don't think it's a straight like for like with mulcahy. Which means there's a lot of subs now very interested in one spot. Augers well for a squad in a run in. Boylan and reidy in the mix as much as mul and Ryan
Is O'Neill? Hard to know….if he's not considered a true option then don't play in26at all. Kk and Clare have parachuted a debutant full forward into finals in 13 and 15…just think it's a step too far for the plans of Keily.
We're good enough if we play to full capacity. But will need to play. Hope same as last year our performances improved with every game. Cork are less likely to miss as many chances as Waterford did yesterday or in 2020 final. I think linking out like v Waterford yesterday and twice in 2020 will be good training for a all action big pace running team. Workrate workrate workrate is the key.
My kingdom for a ticket
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Replying To hillman: "is it just me or is a combined media,social media, journalists and everyone talking up cork hoping they win the all ireland . is it the 16 year gap or is it an unspoken feeling that the powers that be want limerick out. maybe im being paranoid but i dont know" You could be right, there is some bias. All the talk for the last few years and this year in particular of how limerick players tackle too hard and should all be seeing red cards has taken its toll now with casey.
KK played on the border line for ten years and not a word. I don't think glesson will win an all star this year but he should certainly be nominated for an Oscar in the best man fall catagory, shame on him.
When it comes to cork though I'm delighted they are being talked up and in fairness they are a very good team but I hope they continue to get talked up big time over the next two weeks that rings its own pressures. That Limerick can do without.
In fairness John kiely has been good at keeping the lads away from all that hype to quietly focus on the next match.
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Replying To skillet: "You're absolutely spot on, Waterford gave our lads plenty of attention, the amount of off the ball pulling and dragging was ridiculous.. They were looking for a reaction and unfortunately got it with Peter Casey.
One of the most distasteful parts of his sending off is the absolute drama out of Gleeson when he got touched.. You'd swear Casey hit him with the hurley he went down so easily.." And it's not Gleeson's first time to be involved in incidents in a match
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Replying To DUALSUPPORT: "Well done the Limerick hurlers 3 all Ireland appearances in 4 years who would have thought this 4 or 5 years ago. I think Waterford might feel they didn't play their best game but in fairness to our lads they didn't let them. Lads I thought Peter Casey's red card was very harsh, the Waterford lad went down very easy and there was no intent from Casey he was trying to break away from being held and it was the umpires who advised the referee but the same umpires never once brought it to the referees attention of Conor Prunty persistent holding and fouling on Aaron Gillane all through the 2nd half, after yesterday you can see how Gillane gets frustrated when alot of fouls on him don't get called. I hope Limerick do right by Peter Casey and appeal his red card he didn't deserve it and i feel he fell victim of the media scrutiny on 'Limerick's foul play'. Look all the lads played very well I thought, but if I was to give a man of the match I would give it to Dan Morrissey the way he marked Austin Gleeson out of the game and his distribution of the ball out of the full back was very good, also Nickie Quaid in the goals did everything asked of him and his saved stop Waterford gaining momentum at crucial times. I must mention Kyle Hayes flick near the end too he timed it perfectly. Our forwards were unplayable yesterday and some of the points Gillane and Flanagan got at tight angles were fantastic watching them go over the bar also I'm delighted to see Cian Lynch taking on his own score more often, at times he tried not to be greedy and passes it off but now he is popping up with 3 or 4 points a game now. Without meaning to be too harsh after a good win I would only criticise our over playing of the ball with short passing in congested areas and Waterford were to dispossess Limerick on a couple of occasions and we hit a couple of bad wides but no taking from the performance and win, well done everyone involved. Also best wishes to Barry Nash hopefully he is alright he walked off the field himself which is hopefully a good sign.
Away from the field I want to have a bit of a moan, thankfully I escaped the big hold up yesterday, I was a small bit behind the accident and managed to get around it. I'm sick of every game in Dublin I go to is held up by clowns causing accidents on the road, people flying and running into the backs of other cars when they meet a hold up and people causing accidents trying to weave in and out traffic, I don't know what that driver thinking he could get that truck stacked 3 bales high underneath that bridge in Naas, fella's can call me what they want after this but I think it was pure stupidity and more to the point thankfully no-one got hurt." I was in the traffic pileup on the M7 because of that clown and missed the first 25 minutes of the game. There are some desperate clowns out there and I'm hoping that this one gets the bill for the cleanup after the mess that he caused.
I though Dan was magnificent at full back. All of our backs were outstanding really and our midfield bossed the game. Hegarty mixed the sublime with the less sublime and I'm looking to him to be the ace in the pack for the final. In general, I thought that everyone played well. You could argue that it wasn't continued excellence across the entire 80 minutes but that's an first world problem.
The Cork exam will be difficult as they will try to learn from the previous defeats as much as possible. It really comes down to can they get goals and they will look to use their pace to run at our defenders and create goal chances. Hannon will have to sit deep again to protect the D. Discipline will be vital in this game as Cork will use every opportunity to win penalties and black cards and even red ones where possible. I'd expect to see Cork players going to ground at every opportunity so Discipline will be everything.
As far as Peter Casey is concerned - Limerick should use every opportunity that they have to get that red card rescinded including using the entire extent of the appeal process.
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