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Replying To welpastit:  "Haven't been on here for ages so no idea where that bit could mes from. That's mostly because I grew tired of your attempts to as you refer to it call people out. Def don't have nor seek "cronies" My "on behalf" comment was obvious sarcasm designed to highlight the absurdity of your needing to call people out comment. As for more than a few just check the number of likes. Maybe just maybe before you introduced confrontation this was simply a forum where hurling people simply exchanged views. Maybe just maybe no one deserves to be called out for their views and maybe just maybe that exchange of views should be allowed without those who offer their views being policed by others. Just a few thoughts. Maybe at the highest point in our hurling history this forum should be about enjoying the exploits of our team and posters being entitled to a little courtesy. Not sure if you transferring a rage from experiences on other media outlets but I for one have had it up to my back teeth posters being attacked and " called out". Maybe Twitter or Facebook are more suitable outlets for the conflict you seek and/or create"
I admire your attempt to reason with him but if the last few years are anything to go by you'll get nowhere fast..

why he thinks he has the right to censor other posters is incomprehensible but that's what you're dealing with.. At this point Its easier to ignore than engage.
Lot less energy gets expanded that way.

Like you mentioned this is a Limerick team that's possibly the greatest of all time in our hurling history, being spoken about in the same terms of the Mackey era.. If someone can't enjoy that fact without attacking others then leave them be.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1111 - 27/07/2021 09:38:12    2364573

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Replying To batman:  "Didnt JK mention last week that Limerick are working off a panel of 38? Would Jason Gillane and Pat Ryan be 2 more that are still involved?"
Didn't Pat Ryan come on as a sub, the last day. Of course he is involved.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4509 - 27/07/2021 10:35:18    2364597

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Best wishes to the Minor Hurlers tonight. I do not have any knowledge of this team but hoping a couple of lads come out of it ready for senior in 2/3/4 years time.

Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 752 - 27/07/2021 14:55:38    2364740

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Ya best of luck to all involved with the team tonight..I'd hope a reasonable performance and get 2 or 3 who are capable of joining senior panel in 2 years..cork very highly rated by all accounts..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2547 - 27/07/2021 15:20:05    2364758

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Replying To skillet:  "I admire your attempt to reason with him but if the last few years are anything to go by you'll get nowhere fast..

why he thinks he has the right to censor other posters is incomprehensible but that's what you're dealing with.. At this point Its easier to ignore than engage.
Lot less energy gets expanded that way.

Like you mentioned this is a Limerick team that's possibly the greatest of all time in our hurling history, being spoken about in the same terms of the Mackey era.. If someone can't enjoy that fact without attacking others then leave them be."
Ignore him. It's what rational people do. I actually don't mind too much when he keeps his OOFTA to this Limk forum. It's when he goes in the main forum that he displays for all to see the enormous embarrassment that he is to Limerick and many of our fine hurlers!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2310 - 27/07/2021 19:43:31    2364854

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Replying To foreveryoung:  "Ignore him. It's what rational people do. I actually don't mind too much when he keeps his OOFTA to this Limk forum. It's when he goes in the main forum that he displays for all to see the enormous embarrassment that he is to Limerick and many of our fine hurlers!"
100%. He's our very own Katser.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1111 - 27/07/2021 20:13:46    2364866

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Bad result at minor level tonight. Thought we have a couple of nice forwards at least. The Cork goal killed it off as a contest. Cork looked physically stronger particularly their half forwards in comparison to our half backs. I suppose for me though the most disappointing thing was our first touch in comparison to theirs.
Really hope the success at senior level won't be squandered and will inspire more lads in a few years.
In fairness to Cork with their history and tradition and sizeable population, once they sorted themselves out at underage they were bound to get going again.
Really hope our under 20s will do a job tomorrow.

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 371 - 27/07/2021 20:48:46    2364875

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Replying To Mads:  "Bad result at minor level tonight. Thought we have a couple of nice forwards at least. The Cork goal killed it off as a contest. Cork looked physically stronger particularly their half forwards in comparison to our half backs. I suppose for me though the most disappointing thing was our first touch in comparison to theirs.
Really hope the success at senior level won't be squandered and will inspire more lads in a few years.
In fairness to Cork with their history and tradition and sizeable population, once they sorted themselves out at underage they were bound to get going again.
Really hope our under 20s will do a job tomorrow."
Ya i was thinking that if we got one result between the match tonight and the one tomorrow it wouldn't be too bad. The minors tonight were a well beaten 2nd. I'm not sure how good the u20s are as a a team but it looks like they have 3 serious talents. Saying that the Na Piarsaigh wing back was very good against Clare

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 27/07/2021 22:09:39    2364901

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I hope after watching tonight that things aren't been taken for granted at under age..I could not get over the difference in physical size..cork brought on a sub who was more like a senior..cork half back and forward lines were huge men..the full forward looks to have a bit of class about him..disappointed that changes weren't made quicker, no point in having panel members if no faith in them..I don't like being to critical and it's s pity the round robin isn't in play as the more matches these young fellas play the more they would learn..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2547 - 27/07/2021 22:33:57    2364911

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Totally agree. The game was gone from a long way out. There ought to have been alot more substitutions earlier. The Cork conveyor belt has been cranked into motion at long last and we are all in trouble. It's good for hurling in one way that a giant has awoken but they have Dublin sized resources and then some. So standards will go up again. Limerick will need another edge ,a more efficient underage talent spotting programme again. I always go on about the lack of city players but if a county like Limerick isn't getting most of its talented players out then there's trouble. The only way I see the city finally being cracked is a new superclub to compete with Na Piarsaigh. No Parish rule and just a well resourced Club with fresh outlook.The under 20s tonight will have it all to do. A performance rather and a result would be amazing but a performance on its own would be good.

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/07/2021 09:19:30    2364960

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Replying To bloodyban:  "Totally agree. The game was gone from a long way out. There ought to have been alot more substitutions earlier. The Cork conveyor belt has been cranked into motion at long last and we are all in trouble. It's good for hurling in one way that a giant has awoken but they have Dublin sized resources and then some. So standards will go up again. Limerick will need another edge ,a more efficient underage talent spotting programme again. I always go on about the lack of city players but if a county like Limerick isn't getting most of its talented players out then there's trouble. The only way I see the city finally being cracked is a new superclub to compete with Na Piarsaigh. No Parish rule and just a well resourced Club with fresh outlook.The under 20s tonight will have it all to do. A performance rather and a result would be amazing but a performance on its own would be good."
Totally agree, Bloody Ban. The work done citywide and throughout West Limerick in spreading the hurling gospel over the last twenty years has been remarkable. Despite those truly herculean efforts, huge areas of the city still remain untapped as sources of talent.
I like the idea of a superclub along the lines you mention. Not sure how it could work out in practice (like every club it would likely be only one small row away from civil war), but it would be great if such an entity had a remit to scout and hoover up potential talent in areas of the city that are still hurling blackspots, such as Ballananty, Moyross, Southill, Janesboro etc and then bring those young players through the Academy system.
There are some fantastic young sports people in the above-mentioned areas who could serve Limerick very well in the long term but will likely never pick up a hurley in their lives.
I think if we are to compete with Cork in the long term (and the Rebels will be hurling's next behemoth) we will need a strategy to find talent in places where we haven't looked before.
In the very short term, I'll be disappointed if our under-20s don't win tonight as we have some really exceptional talent in that side. A victory tonight would also help to stymie the Cork juggernaut, albeit only temporarily. Luimneach abú!

GerO.Racle (Limerick) - Posts: 47 - 28/07/2021 12:13:28    2365030

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Very interested to see tonight O Neill vs Ciaran Joyce. Joyce looks a real prospect for Cork.

upthetreatyboys (Limerick) - Posts: 104 - 28/07/2021 12:30:16    2365037

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Best of luck to all involved with under 20s tonight..it's a huge test and really looking forward to seeing how these young men go..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2547 - 28/07/2021 13:39:11    2365076

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "I hope after watching tonight that things aren't been taken for granted at under age..I could not get over the difference in physical size..cork brought on a sub who was more like a senior..cork half back and forward lines were huge men..the full forward looks to have a bit of class about him..disappointed that changes weren't made quicker, no point in having panel members if no faith in them..I don't like being to critical and it's s pity the round robin isn't in play as the more matches these young fellas play the more they would learn.."
The limerick minors had a very disrupted build up to their championship with the minors from last year preparing for an AI semi couple of weeks back. Cork on the other hand had a perfect prep. This is not saying that limerick would have beaten cork but from a lot of people inside corks underage programme this is a uniquely special bunch they have currently. No guarantees to senior esp at that age. Tonight's match has a much greater bearing imo.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1197 - 28/07/2021 14:16:58    2365093

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Replying To GerO.Racle:  "Totally agree, Bloody Ban. The work done citywide and throughout West Limerick in spreading the hurling gospel over the last twenty years has been remarkable. Despite those truly herculean efforts, huge areas of the city still remain untapped as sources of talent.
I like the idea of a superclub along the lines you mention. Not sure how it could work out in practice (like every club it would likely be only one small row away from civil war), but it would be great if such an entity had a remit to scout and hoover up potential talent in areas of the city that are still hurling blackspots, such as Ballananty, Moyross, Southill, Janesboro etc and then bring those young players through the Academy system.
There are some fantastic young sports people in the above-mentioned areas who could serve Limerick very well in the long term but will likely never pick up a hurley in their lives.
I think if we are to compete with Cork in the long term (and the Rebels will be hurling's next behemoth) we will need a strategy to find talent in places where we haven't looked before.
In the very short term, I'll be disappointed if our under-20s don't win tonight as we have some really exceptional talent in that side. A victory tonight would also help to stymie the Cork juggernaut, albeit only temporarily. Luimneach abú!"
The starting of the hurling academy under Jerry Wallace's stewardship produced some brilliant hurlers the likes of Declan Hannon, Shane Dowling, Dan Morrissey,Kevin Downes and Alan Dempsey were the first from the academy to break through into the senior set-up and they were complemented by the minor and u21 teams of Diarmuid Byrnes, Georoid Hegarty, Cian Lynch, Tom Morrissey, Aaron Gillane, Richie English, Mike Casey and Sean Finn, and Kyle Hayes and Peter Casey followed them. We had an abundance of underage talent between the U21 Munster champions in 2011 and the minors teams from 2013 to 2016 and the u21s team in 2015 and 2017 if you think of the hurlers that didn't make it from those teams Lorcan Lyons, Thomas Grimes, Paudie Ahern, Andrew La Touche Cosgrave and even Ronan Lynch to name a bare few off the top of my head. So after saying all that my point is i think after Jerry Wallace left the academy the talent seemed to dry up a bit, but in fairness we still won 2 Munster minor titles since. I don't think its time for panic but we can't let standards slip and now we have reached a top level we should do everything to stay there. Im still very disappointed we haven't won an all Ireland minor title since 1984. I can't understand why Ger Cunningham, Joe Quaid and Ciaran Carey aren't involved with the hurling academy very good highly regarded coaches where ever they went and they have something to offer Limerick hurling.

I think in Limerick city work has being put in to raise the profile of hurling, Claughaun and Old Christians fall from grace has had an effect, even if 1 of them or St Patrick's could do in the South of the city what Na Piarsaigh did in North side it would be a hugh benefit to Limerick, but they are competing big time with Rugby and soccer club's in their areas that pay players it's very hard to compete with that. On the outskirts both Monaleen and Mungret/St Paul's are starting to look good and in the near future I feel will produce some very good hurlers and footballers for Limerick.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 28/07/2021 14:33:32    2365101

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "The starting of the hurling academy under Jerry Wallace's stewardship produced some brilliant hurlers the likes of Declan Hannon, Shane Dowling, Dan Morrissey,Kevin Downes and Alan Dempsey were the first from the academy to break through into the senior set-up and they were complemented by the minor and u21 teams of Diarmuid Byrnes, Georoid Hegarty, Cian Lynch, Tom Morrissey, Aaron Gillane, Richie English, Mike Casey and Sean Finn, and Kyle Hayes and Peter Casey followed them. We had an abundance of underage talent between the U21 Munster champions in 2011 and the minors teams from 2013 to 2016 and the u21s team in 2015 and 2017 if you think of the hurlers that didn't make it from those teams Lorcan Lyons, Thomas Grimes, Paudie Ahern, Andrew La Touche Cosgrave and even Ronan Lynch to name a bare few off the top of my head. So after saying all that my point is i think after Jerry Wallace left the academy the talent seemed to dry up a bit, but in fairness we still won 2 Munster minor titles since. I don't think its time for panic but we can't let standards slip and now we have reached a top level we should do everything to stay there. Im still very disappointed we haven't won an all Ireland minor title since 1984. I can't understand why Ger Cunningham, Joe Quaid and Ciaran Carey aren't involved with the hurling academy very good highly regarded coaches where ever they went and they have something to offer Limerick hurling.

I think in Limerick city work has being put in to raise the profile of hurling, Claughaun and Old Christians fall from grace has had an effect, even if 1 of them or St Patrick's could do in the South of the city what Na Piarsaigh did in North side it would be a hugh benefit to Limerick, but they are competing big time with Rugby and soccer club's in their areas that pay players it's very hard to compete with that. On the outskirts both Monaleen and Mungret/St Paul's are starting to look good and in the near future I feel will produce some very good hurlers and footballers for Limerick."
Excellent post

Mads (Limerick) - Posts: 371 - 28/07/2021 21:32:42    2365289

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Replying To Mads:  "Excellent post"
Narrowly beaten tonight in the U20s, but they put a fantastic display. Dermot Hegarty scored 1.3- have we got another Gearoid on our hands- would it it be great

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4509 - 28/07/2021 21:49:09    2365297

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Disappointing result in cork..only 2 points in the finish but if cork took goal chances,it could have been 10 points..I think when they look back they will see a huge chance to dent cork confidence was missed,if only the team had performed a small bit more..ah well onwards and upwards from here..hopefully a few will progress to put pressure on panel members in the next 3 to 4 years and make sure limerick stay competitive..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2547 - 28/07/2021 23:14:35    2365329

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Narrowly beaten tonight in the U20s, but they put a fantastic display. Dermot Hegarty scored 1.3- have we got another Gearoid on our hands- would it it be great"
Hard to understand the puck out strategy last night...Cork got a number of handy points out of it

Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 29/07/2021 07:44:25    2365355

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Not overly disappointed with the result last night. That is a strong Cork team and they are having a purple patch when it comes to underage hurling at the moment. We were lucky to keep it to 2 points in the end to be fair, If Cork took their chances it could have been a different story.
I though the big 3 of O Neill English and Coughlin did well last night and we seemed strong up the middle but we seemed to be a lot weaker than Cork on the wings. Our hurling and decision making we very poor at times.
I know our current senior team have reaped the rewards of the academy but is there a bit of a drop off when it comes to coaching and skills.
There seems to be a certain type of game plan that all our teams have adopted and the natural wristy hurler who is not 6ft plus and makes 20 tackles is overlooked.
I am not panicking as I know from watching club games there is plenty of talent in the county but I would hate to see a natural hurler over looked because he dose not buy into a sometimes robotic system.

Ballyknockill (Limerick) - Posts: 27 - 29/07/2021 10:15:23    2365392

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