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Replying To Daith:  "It's deluded gibberish like this that has the game in the state it is in and that Dublin fans have become a parody of themselves. Dublin have a CEO. Who else has that? Why can't we all have CEOs?

Kildare have largely funded Hawkfield themselves. They have to somehow make some sort of shape out of newbridge with 4m. Dublin have campuses and an 82k stadium provided so they can fund the entourage.

We can look inwardly all we want but there is no escaping the fact that the bulk of our sponsorship comes from a family business, not AIG. But you will still cod on like money makes no difference. Tories."
It's avoidance of the points I raised and wasted resources that has Kildare winning two Leinster Champinships in 60 years. Kildare have big problems, but they were there and continue to be there long before and after Dublin.

It's a very good question, why don't Kildare have a CEO, who gift is that in. We won't apologise for contemporary governance structure.

Dublin don't have a COE, but while we're on the subject Kildare needed to be bailed out of that hawk field vanity project to the tune of 300k. Classic Kildare. Then as your talking of Goverment grants 4.5 mill in state funding for Newbridge.

Loads left over to give I don't know, John Maugham a tilt at the top job.

Kildare received 335.5k in games development funding in 2019 for a population of 222k = €1.5 per head

Dublin received 1.3 mill in games development funding for a population 1.4 million = € 92 cent per head.

* Thats before Kildare get their share of Leinster council distribution and East Leinster funding.

So all in all in hawk field bailouts, 4.5 mill Goverment capital funding, serious GDF funding, Kildare continue along a path of not developing, their own, paying hand over fist for outside big name ringers managers. All the while blaming everyone else for their problems and looking for more handouts.

If you can't see Kildare problem is Kildare, that's fine, no skin here. But if you are blaming Dublin on a Kildare non identity, lack of a plan or the reason you've won two Leinster titles in 60 years, I feel for you. You won't get better.

Kildares problem is Kildare.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 20/12/2020 22:29:38    2324878

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Ha still enjoying it alright. Great footage here of the lads celebrating in Croker.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/dublin-gaa-humble-dubs-sweep-19494556

Also sweeping the dressing room for the woman on Sunday.

Class.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 20/12/2020 22:32:08    2324881

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Replying To Rodeo:  "Dublin are like an alcoholic father, the don't have a problem, just need a couple more drinks, they control the purse strings of the house, its not their fault there a problem and its unfair that if anyone else point out the facts. They don't care about the damage they are doing to everyone else. The other 31 counties need to have a intervention at this stage before it's too late."
Mayo are that family member that moans about everything and how unfair life is. Like a teenager.....

We want it and should get it because we deserve it

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 20/12/2020 23:13:46    2324903

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One man and his brush ;-)

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/12/2020 23:23:44    2324909

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Saw that and credit where credit is due. I recall saying before that after a league game v Kerry in Tralee a few years ago Éamonn Fitzmaurice said Cluxton knocked on Jerry dressing room looking for a brush to which Fitzmaurice said not to worry bout it but Cluxton insisted he wanted to sweep dressing room.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 20/12/2020 23:31:31    2324914

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Replying To cavanman47:  "He's been involved all championship without getting a single minute of game time.

With 7 celtic crosses in his back pocket, you'd wonder how he can be happy to sit on the bench all championship. But obviously it's worth his while somehow."
Because his getting well paid for it like the professional he is

Irishcelt (Wicklow) - Posts: 149 - 21/12/2020 05:51:05    2324935

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I don't know why all the negative about Dublin they're not robots. . Of coarse they're celebrating that was plain to see after the game
Even though I was rooting for Galway u20s and mayo in senior one can only take hats off to Dublin. They are a fantastic bunch of players who got a lot of stick about not celebrating and winning so often but still come back and repeat it following year.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 21/12/2020 07:48:23    2324940

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What a joke. The cat is out of the bag with a while now. Professional players don't sweep up the dressing room. A P. R exercise for the dubs. Good look with the 10 in a row

traleegerry (Kerry) - Posts: 738 - 21/12/2020 08:05:49    2324942

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Replying To realdub:  "Of course, it is a very satisfying feeling. Look, I know what your'e asking, even if Mayo won 6 in a row, the celebrating after their 6th compared to after their first would differ hugely in comparison. There is euphoria and there is satisfaction."
That's it. Congratulations reald to you. It's not the same as 11 etc but still satisfying. You and I have been on here a long time, can I ask a different question. Would a defeat hurt as much as the ones in the 00s ?? If it was to come to pass. The passion for both winning and defeat is getting less and less for myself, the defeat in Leinster final didn't bother me half as much as one would have 10 years ago. We have became accustomed to it. Getting a lot more enjoyment out of league these days.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/12/2020 08:25:39    2324944

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Ha still enjoying it alright. Great footage here of the lads celebrating in Croker.

https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/dublin-gaa-humble-dubs-sweep-19494556

Also sweeping the dressing room for the woman on Sunday.

Class."
Which woman? Molly?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 21/12/2020 08:53:45    2324948

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Replying To cavanman47:  "He's been involved all championship without getting a single minute of game time.

With 7 celtic crosses in his back pocket, you'd wonder how he can be happy to sit on the bench all championship. But obviously it's worth his while somehow."
It's quite simple, he's been injured for the championship. He hasn't been on the bench.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 21/12/2020 09:10:12    2324950

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P. S. I was told Kerry left their dressing room spotless after last years all ireland replay defeat. Even in defeat a nice gesture but no media talk on it.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 21/12/2020 09:31:05    2324964

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Replying To Irishcelt:  "Because his getting well paid for it like the professional he is"
Yes, tax consultants do earn a good salary I believe.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 21/12/2020 09:50:16    2324972

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Replying To traleegerry:  "What a joke. The cat is out of the bag with a while now. Professional players don't sweep up the dressing room. A P. R exercise for the dubs. Good look with the 10 in a row"
*luck

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 21/12/2020 09:50:19    2324973

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Replying To traleegerry:  "What a joke. The cat is out of the bag with a while now. Professional players don't sweep up the dressing room. A P. R exercise for the dubs. Good look with the 10 in a row"
Yeah Gerry, Cluxton is a real slick media operator right enough.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 21/12/2020 09:56:09    2324976

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Replying To TheUsername:  "No point personalising, that is weak.

Surely the principal is the same, Kildare invested artificially in talent to try and get an edge, they tried the same this year with O Connor. Him many GDOs, GDA's would these Hollywood mangers produced investing in your own.
Look at Anthony Rainbow and the job he has done and doing. Seanie Johnson is same thing, typical Kildare, financial incentive to get an edge. Quick fix, no long term strategy and investment and dare I say no trust in the young people, players or managers in the county. The Croke park argument fell on its face when you think back to Kildare glory years, all games in Croke Park, no issue then..

Elsewhere in Leinster we have seen counties invest huge sums in these Hollywood managers, Davy down Wexford, Mikey in Louth, Sugrue, Galvin and other Kerry managers.

It all harks back to the same fundamental, huge money being spent by Leinster counties on ould rope. No investment in their own, no plan, no trust in their own, grass is always greener elsewhere, big name appointments and massive waste.

To be fair to Meath I think they are beginning to do it right way in recent years and fair play to them.

Simply put counties like Kildare are run like banana republics, feathered nests, massive waste, using finance and rule bending to try and get an edge and failing because they have no confidence in their own, rinse and repeat.

I've no doubt if Kildare got more then they are already getting in East Leinster project additional funding, they would do something ridiculous like build an inflatable aero dome like the one in Mayo.

Kildare have their principles all wrong and an evident massive distrust in their own has undermined lack of confidence, evident throughout all their history in football.

You can use Dublin as the monitor under the bed, but that's just avoidance, Kildare should be held up as an example of how not to develop a footballing county, their morals and principals should be looked at to via Micko, Seanie and Jack. Kildare have been an anonymous football force throughout their history, long before Dublin got a sniff of Sam.

If I was from Kildare and I played club football their for a number of years, I'd be looking inwardly before I looked outwardly, they just do everything wrong, no amount of money would do anything for them until the root cause is adressed and they have an identity. They get more then most at the moment."
Have you not finished the PhD on Dublin yet?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 21/12/2020 09:58:02    2324978

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How come the Dubs don't make a song and dance about their 15-in-a row?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 21/12/2020 10:01:50    2324982

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Replying To CiarraiMick:  "P. S. I was told Kerry left their dressing room spotless after last years all ireland replay defeat. Even in defeat a nice gesture but no media talk on it."
Ha ha are we at the point were are arguing which team leave their dressing room cleaner. :D

The Dublin lads, were pulled from their jobs to do a professional sweeping course, while the GAA have provided Dublin with funds for brushes from Arnotts with a new scoop. Dubs have been calling Cian O Sullivan for years called the best sweeper in Ireland and people thought they meant him playing at 6. :D

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 21/12/2020 10:26:48    2324997

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Replying To royaldunne:  "That's it. Congratulations reald to you. It's not the same as 11 etc but still satisfying. You and I have been on here a long time, can I ask a different question. Would a defeat hurt as much as the ones in the 00s ?? If it was to come to pass. The passion for both winning and defeat is getting less and less for myself, the defeat in Leinster final didn't bother me half as much as one would have 10 years ago. We have became accustomed to it. Getting a lot more enjoyment out of league these days."
Yes I would say you're right RD, the defeats in the 00s and 90s hurt but I think the older you get the less emotional involvement, too many more important distractions in life!
Watching the game on Saturday I found myself with little or no nerves at the throw in.
But having said that, this years championship didn't feel like one at all.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8597 - 21/12/2020 10:56:18    2325008

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Ha ha are we at the point were are arguing which team leave their dressing room cleaner. :D

The Dublin lads, were pulled from their jobs to do a professional sweeping course, while the GAA have provided Dublin with funds for brushes from Arnotts with a new scoop. Dubs have been calling Cian O Sullivan for years called the best sweeper in Ireland and people thought they meant him playing at 6. :D"
Just making the point User that some posters saying dubs are heroes for cleaning dressing room but it's was publicised by video footage. Other teams clean up and not a word about it. I applaud them and think it's good but in defeat it has to be respected too maybe even more so. Balance to the statement that's all.On Cian Ó Sullivan he was the ultimate sweeper and maybe that's where Cluxton got the cleanings skills from. Cian comes from great stock.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3678 - 21/12/2020 12:55:32    2325055

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