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C'mon the Glensmen. I'd barely know a hurl from a paling post, but I know lads from N Antrim, and their devotion to hurling is off the scale. At college in Belfast, they routinely carried hurleys into tutorials, explaining that you could always use the wall of the faculty afterwards to get in some practice. They keep the game alive in a tight enclave, surrounded by people who are either hostile to any Gaelic games or by Nationalists who mainly prefer boxing , soccer and Gaelic football (in that order). And of course, they barely get a decent game in Ulster, as most Ulster counties are useless at hurling. Delighted for them. essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 13/12/2020 20:39:22 2322118 Link 4 |
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Delighted too! I was at college up there 89-92 great gra for the game even in West Belfast Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 13/12/2020 20:57:58 2322132 Link 2 |
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indeed,well done and drive forward from here antrim. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 13/12/2020 21:21:37 2322146 Link 0 |
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Ballycastle is a hurling stronghold!
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 13/12/2020 21:25:14 2322150 Link 1 |
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Hurling needs Antrim, Laois, Offaly, Westmeath etc to continue to strive to get to the top table. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 14/12/2020 12:39:44 2322266 Link 2 |
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Donal Óg said Antrim will struggle next season. What do ye think? keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 16/12/2020 15:22:30 2322900 Link 0 |
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They wont find it easy but if they beat Laois they could well stay up. Over the last 10 years their record against us and Dublin isnt bad either.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 16/12/2020 19:11:53 2322981 Link 1 |
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You took the words out of mouth. These counties should be getting the support to bring them to next level. Taking it in steps with reasonable expectations, where they are challenging the teams that are challenging the top teams first. This is not to ignore the teams below them but start with some sort of plan. In the 70's we played in division 1 of the football league with players of the calibre of any county and only got relegated on scoring difference. Where are we now ? At that stage there were at least 10 of the team that would have made any top team. This is where a little push through coaching, resources what ever might get you to the next level. Brick Walsh has a munster under 21 medal. Yes he is a talented footballer but did not win that championship on his own. People always say that is just a point in time but what worked to get them there. These hurling teams are the same and yes the must help themselves which I am sure they would love to with help. No one can convince me that money is not a huge factor in that progression. Not saying it is everything but don't kid yourself top coaching is paid for today. Even in the little local junior club. Sometimes I am not sure whether to think it is disgusting or just accept it is inevitable. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 16/12/2020 20:21:44 2323004 Link 1 |
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You took the words out of mouth. These counties should be getting the support to bring them to next level. Taking it in steps with reasonable expectations, where they are challenging the teams that are challenging the top teams first. This is not to ignore the teams below them but start with some sort of plan. In the 70's we played in division 1 of the football league with players of the calibre of any county and only got relegated on scoring difference. Where are we now ? At that stage there were at least 10 of the team that would have made any top team. This is where a little push through coaching, resources what ever might get you to the next level. Brick Walsh has a munster under 21 medal. Yes he is a talented footballer but did not win that championship on his own. People always say that is just a point in time but what worked to get them there. These hurling teams are the same and yes the must help themselves which I am sure they would love to with help. No one can convince me that money is not a huge factor in that progression. Not saying it is everything but don't kid yourself top coaching is paid for today. Even in the little local junior club. Sometimes I am not sure whether to think it is disgusting or just accept it is inevitable. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 16/12/2020 20:36:09 2323007 Link 0 |
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I don't think he was being offensive or provocative because he had good things to say as well. Donal Og was just being honest and direct. We know we have to massively improve for next season. A few of our fellas have to shift a few pounds and work on their stamina, fitness and speed. We also need to improve our anticipation of the game, sharpness and aerial skills. We are under no illusions at all.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 16/12/2020 21:40:20 2323023 Link 2 |
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Congratulations Antrim! Keep pushing. Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2113 - 17/12/2020 01:31:25 2323050 Link 1 |
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maybe boris your pm will sendye some help
Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2840 - 17/12/2020 08:57:20 2323060 Link 0 |
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You'd be in the know about receiving help id say
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 17/12/2020 09:52:13 2323071 Link 1 |
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Our Sole
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 17/12/2020 09:54:07 2323072 Link 1 |
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I don't think we should accept it as inevitable. There are some people who coach and manage for the genuine love of the game. My own thought is that at club level when everyone is equal in the dressing room (i.e. earning zilch from the game, giving time, getting only enjoyment) you have a common bond. The problem is very often players see a paid coach/s&c representative etc as the way forward. Players tire of hearing the neighbour speak in the dressing room whose voice they've heard for ten years. Can't blame them as the differences they see when they play for county sides are huge. So that puts an onus on those who want to be involved with teams and are willing to to so for free, to better themselves, better their knowledge, learn. Most modern club players are educated and want to be challenged. It shouldn't cost a club money to give them that challenge and to make it fun and interesting. slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 17/12/2020 09:56:28 2323074 Link 0 |
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The best manager I ever had was a club member. The main thing is that the individual needs the know how. He needs to be engaged in coaching and the learning side of things and also then just be an organised individual and solid communicator. If I were involved in the board of a club I'd be looking to manage our mentors and coaches in a way to develop suitable individuals with an interest and support them in getting their qualifications and courses taken. I do think that it's a good thing that the standard of coaching has improved greatly in the GAA, there are plenty actively involved in furthering the field. Nothing beats internal produced coaching. There's a place for paid coaching too. Paid doesn't mean better though. There are plenty of people out there who are just trying to bring in some easy dough. There are people who care and want to coach who don't have the skills to. It's a hard role and it's something that a well run club should be thinking about more than just who's available, how much is he , get him in. It shouldn't be the case that a board/committee is hunting for a manager 3 months before a season starts. That's how you waste money and get stuck with a waste of time. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4207 - 17/12/2020 10:16:32 2323082 Link 3 |
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What a bizarre offensive post
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11725 - 17/12/2020 10:18:15 2323084 Link 2 |
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That's an idiotic post, Stmunnsriver. Cop yourself on. Well done Antrim. togoutlads (Galway) - Posts: 898 - 17/12/2020 14:09:24 2323152 Link 1 |
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I just laughed, more to be pitied to be honest.
Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 17/12/2020 14:46:39 2323176 Link 0 |
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Paid doesn't mean better though. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1732 - 17/12/2020 15:48:21 2323199 Link 0 |