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Why Aren't The Ladies Playing An All Ireland Final In Croke Park.

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It's so disgraceful.

republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 350 - 09/12/2020 18:02:34    2320785

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Replying To baire:  "It doesn't require much resources to agree a venue and a back-up venue for an All Ireland Semi-Final, it can be done over the phone or by email. Ensuring the arrangement is sensible and practical requires a bit of cop-on, that's all. The arrangement with LIT Gaelic Grounds was neither sensible nor practical. It wouldn't take a genius to figure that Limerick would probably qualify for this year's All Ireland Final - why would anyone agree to such a dodgy arrangement? I don't understand why the Gaelic Grounds would make such an offer either, tbh. It makes no sense to me. It reflects poorly on both sides and then to project the blame onto the players is pathetic."
Two queries. If the recent ladies semi final was fixed for Limerick, it should have been played there. Could Limerick hurlers have trained at another ground, or had their session on Saturday.?
This was a semi final, an important game for both teams.

Alternatively why not fix the game for Ennis, it would make more sense than travelling across the country in wintertime. The fixing for Limerick was conditional on Limerick hurlers not reaching the All Ireland Final. The LGFA should have rejected that limited offer.

It would not happen with a men's semi final.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 269 - 09/12/2020 18:27:56    2320796

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Replying To befair:  "Did the GAA president say that?"
Yes. The Lgfa president Marie Hickey said the girls spent too long in dressing. The organisation of a team to get timing right before a game takes a lot of consideration. You don't want the team to arrive too early or theirs because complacency could set in. Ideally a team needs 15 to 20 minutes to tog, physio etc. Any country team would need up to 30 minutes for warmup, tactics etc. The Galway team after been told of change of venue arrived at Croke Park at 12.40. The management of both teams said yes to change as long as they were given the required time for proper warmup. The Galway outfit were told getting of the bus to hurry up and get togged as match is now kicking off at 13.00 Both teams asked for more time for warmup. The referee kept intruding on Galway girls during warmup, saying to hurry up. Talking to one of the players yesterday and she said their hands were frozen at throw in as they hadn't done sufficient warmup. The Galway girls wanted management to walk off the pitch and he came out after match saying he was sorry he didn't. For a LGFA official to come on radio after match and say :girls spent too long in dressing room: speaks for itself. The match should NOT have been considered for Croke park with such a short time frame for warmup etc. Just to say Cork were by far the better team and looked very very impressive the last day and I wish them all the best in final.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 09/12/2020 20:04:40    2320835

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Replying To MicktheMiller:  "Two queries. If the recent ladies semi final was fixed for Limerick, it should have been played there. Could Limerick hurlers have trained at another ground, or had their session on Saturday.?
This was a semi final, an important game for both teams.

Alternatively why not fix the game for Ennis, it would make more sense than travelling across the country in wintertime. The fixing for Limerick was conditional on Limerick hurlers not reaching the All Ireland Final. The LGFA should have rejected that limited offer.

It would not happen with a men's semi final."
Finally someone else with a bit of cop and sense. When LGFA herd there was a possibility of Limerick reaching final every Avenue should have been explored to work out a time frame with Limerick. With no satisfaction there Ennis would be next convenient location.

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 09/12/2020 20:09:47    2320838

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Replying To Toman:  "Finally someone else with a bit of cop and sense. When LGFA herd there was a possibility of Limerick reaching final every Avenue should have been explored to work out a time frame with Limerick. With no satisfaction there Ennis would be next convenient location."
Common sense is a rare thing. The whole episode reflects badly on the LGFA.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 269 - 09/12/2020 21:48:45    2320879

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I can't speak for other counties but watching the fixtures for ladies football and camogie in Carlow, it's quite rare that they get to play any matches in the county pitch in Netwatch Cullen Park.
The camogie and ladies finals this year were not in the county grounds... where they should be played if ladies finals are to be respected and the ladies games are to develop further.
I am sure the same situation is prevalent in many other counties.
There is only one solution ...so that the Galway and Cork ladies and all other ladies teams in the future dont suffer the ignominy of what happend last Sunday and that is for all 3 associations to become one.
No other solution.

carlowman (Carlow) - Posts: 1606 - 10/12/2020 17:13:54    2321102

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Why has Marie Hickey not resigned yet.

sponger (Wicklow) - Posts: 2718 - 11/12/2020 10:58:45    2321294

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Replying To Toman:  "Yes. The Lgfa president Marie Hickey said the girls spent too long in dressing. The organisation of a team to get timing right before a game takes a lot of consideration. You don't want the team to arrive too early or theirs because complacency could set in. Ideally a team needs 15 to 20 minutes to tog, physio etc. Any country team would need up to 30 minutes for warmup, tactics etc. The Galway team after been told of change of venue arrived at Croke Park at 12.40. The management of both teams said yes to change as long as they were given the required time for proper warmup. The Galway outfit were told getting of the bus to hurry up and get togged as match is now kicking off at 13.00 Both teams asked for more time for warmup. The referee kept intruding on Galway girls during warmup, saying to hurry up. Talking to one of the players yesterday and she said their hands were frozen at throw in as they hadn't done sufficient warmup. The Galway girls wanted management to walk off the pitch and he came out after match saying he was sorry he didn't. For a LGFA official to come on radio after match and say :girls spent too long in dressing room: speaks for itself. The match should NOT have been considered for Croke park with such a short time frame for warmup etc. Just to say Cork were by far the better team and looked very very impressive the last day and I wish them all the best in final."
So you were incorrect; the GAA president didn't say that....

befair (Down) - Posts: 203 - 11/12/2020 23:45:15    2321496

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Replying To befair:  "So you were incorrect; the GAA president didn't say that...."
Yes Marie it was said on national radio

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 12/12/2020 08:42:25    2321516

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I'm just amazed that 20 minutes is considered adequate to tog out, strap up and warm up.

I'd be thinking that an hour would be borderline. Ideally 90 minutes.

lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 449 - 12/12/2020 16:10:07    2321613

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Replying To Toman:  "Yes Marie it was said on national radio"
No shame in admitting you were wrong

befair (Down) - Posts: 203 - 13/12/2020 19:20:23    2322060

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Replying To befair:  "No shame in admitting you were wrong"
Uachtarán Chumann Lúthchleas Gael Aogán Ó Fearghail said: "I am delighted to confirm that draft Memorandums of Understanding have been agreed with both Cumann Camógaíochta and Cumann Peile na mBan and the closer worker relationship that these arrangements will give rise to is to be warmly welcomed.

"We are all part of the same Gaelic games family and although we have our own identities within that family, we have so much in common.

Working together we can truly claim to be a fully inclusive family organisation offering a sporting and cultural outlet for all members of the family.


Now betfair.. maybe the above will go some way in answering what you appear to be totally against. So I don't admit I was wrong in anything in my initial post I said what the president of the LGFA said on radio ie Galway girls spent too long in dressing room. Maybe you have a problem with girls playing Gaelic games??

Toman (Galway) - Posts: 622 - 13/12/2020 21:16:17    2322142

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Always makes me laugh to hear The "Ladies" lol

AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1118 - 13/12/2020 21:31:09    2322152

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