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With the benefit of hindsight maybe Burke was more deserving of been picked at 3 than Morrissey, if Morrissey has a good final he could force his way into the team. A few players like that, Byrnes, Casey and Gillane also for Limerick and McNulty, Barron, Fagan, Hutchinson and Aussie for Waterford.
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 04/12/2020 23:05:53 2318377 Link 0 |
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Absolutely agree with re Barron. I firmly believe that if he was fully fit and able to finish the game Waterford would have pulled an All Ireland in '17. He was certainly the main man in the Decies breaking their Kilkenny duck that year.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 05/12/2020 09:31:15 2318416 Link 0 |
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The leaving off of John Galvin, by far and away the best midfielder in 2010 in favour of a 21 year old who has never really impressed since, finished me with All Stars. A complete joke.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4317 - 05/12/2020 15:19:44 2318524 Link 1 |
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That was a travesty with John Galvin missing out on an All Star...surely what All Stars is about is rewarding and recognizing players who are consistently excelling in their positions as John Galvin did against the very best.The whole All Star thing needs to be looked at and a system of scoring players on every outing/match they play throughout the season be developed instead of loading the All Stars with AI winners.Sure if they win both well and good but have no connection between the two rewards...ie AI and All Stars. ONdeDITCH (Limerick) - Posts: 873 - 07/12/2020 00:28:14 2319585 Link 0 |
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2 changes after today, Byrnes in for Lyons and Gleeson in for Concannon
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 13/12/2020 19:37:22 2322069 Link 0 |
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Maybe Barron instead of O Donoghue he was a large part of why Waterford got to the final. But other than that hard to argue with your updated selection. Shame that means no Galway man which would be unusual for a semi finalist.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11734 - 13/12/2020 19:58:25 2322082 Link 0 |
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Few changes for me. 1. Nicky Quaid 2. Sean Finn 3. Dan Morrissey 4. Daithi Burke 5. Diarmuid Byrnes 6. Tadgh De Burca 7. Calum Lyons 8. Cian Lynch 9. Tony Kelly 10. Gearóid Hegarty 11. TJ Reid 12. Tom Morrissey 13. Aaron Gillane 14. Austin Gleeson 15. Stephen Bennett Very hard to leave out Prunty, Barron and Hayes. Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 524 - 14/12/2020 11:07:55 2322240 Link 0 |
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O'Donoghue personally I'd have as number 1 midfielder given most of Kelly's great work was in the forwards
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 14/12/2020 12:58:43 2322274 Link 0 |
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Yes but I guess it is all down to the finalists essentially. I mean Shane Walsh should get a football all star this year for his consistency, unbelievable form pre March and natural talent excelling at the highest level but I am quite sure he won't get one as his team did not make the last 4. Probably same happened to Galvin 10 yrs ago.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 14/12/2020 14:00:50 2322296 Link 0 |
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Jaysus lads. Gleeson? I thought myself he would have had to have a great final, pushing Waterford close top be considered. He was poor enough I though but who from Waterford wasn't on the day. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 14/12/2020 16:01:46 2322336 Link 0 |
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Outside of the Munster final has had a good year, arguably Waterfords best player yesterday
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 14/12/2020 19:47:21 2322415 Link 0 |
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I'm going to go against a few of names included in team and I'll probably upset a few..I'd have prunty before Burke..didn't think Cian was as good this year,so I'd have odonohue..also I'd put concannon or whelan before gillane.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2208 - 14/12/2020 20:58:27 2322447 Link 0 |
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This whole All-Stars recognition is a farce. What competitions are used. What games are used. What positions players selected. Jockeying players to different positions to fit someone else in. How successful the team were. If for instance Barron got one this year was he any better than last year when the team did not win a game. The same could apply to any player. Are there players from Wexford,Tipp and others who got All-Stars last but played better this year and won't get any consideration. Way too many variables. Change the whole emphasis by recognizing the best player from every county. The chances are much higher they are a star and probably carrying the biggest part of the fight for their team. I don't care how many are selected from Waterford this year. However I do know that Pat McGrath Ken's dad was the best in any of the half back positions for well over a decade and never got one because it was felt necessary to give them to the succcessful teams at that time. Flawed and not in the best interest of promoting the games. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 14/12/2020 21:28:59 2322458 Link 0 |
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I would regard Cian Lynch as a certainty. The only question is whether he should be midfield or centre forward. Maybe he doesn't score as much as Hegarty or Morrissey but his workrate, added to his exceptional skill, makes him an automatic choice, I think.
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 541 - 14/12/2020 21:36:55 2322463 Link 0 |
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It was my opinion only,didn't think this year was his best..however I do think he will be picked as an all star..I'm also of the opinion that Gleeson hasn't enough done to deserve one.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2208 - 14/12/2020 23:46:30 2322502 Link 1 |
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Might be a controversial view but I don't think Tadhg De Burka had a great year and probably shouldn't get an all star. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 15/12/2020 11:14:55 2322554 Link 0 |
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1. Nicky Quaid hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 377 - 15/12/2020 12:41:53 2322585 Link 0 |
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Tadhg De Burca, is a wing back not a centre back, and a very good one, not a centre back, while he can hurl there, he gets too caught up in the central traffic flowing from MF inwards and doesnt get his space, by his standards this year had not as good a year as other years...Wateford were short Mahony this year, Padraig, and Phillip not involved, so two players whom going by Ballygunners standards this year would have offered way more options to Waterford...Limerick were the best team all year, and deserved their All Ireland, shame for Waterford not win it after beating Kilkenny, surely their day cannot be far off...wish them well...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 15/12/2020 12:56:23 2322590 Link 0 |
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You could also add they were missing Shane Bennett who's probably the best hurler and deadliest finishers of the three Bennett brothers. Think he took another year out so would certainly improve this Waterford panel if he returned in 2021
brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 15/12/2020 14:03:09 2322623 Link 1 |
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De Burca guaranteed an All Star. Hannon the only one close to him but it won't be an all Limerick half back line.
hopballref (Galway) - Posts: 377 - 15/12/2020 14:28:44 2322636 Link 0 |