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Cunningham. hmm....couldn't keep the likes of Danny Sutcliffe in the squad. Sutcliffe. had been an All. Star in. 2013 and was. a. very valuable member. of the Dublin. team. He. and others. could have been managed better. He was a terrible loss. to the Dubs. Hasn't been the same player since.
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 27/11/2020 22:49:11 2316077 Link 5 |
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Possibly. . Going from losing to Laois and Carlow to winning Leinster and League Division 1 titles. When 95% of the county wouldn't know a sliotar from a raw spud. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 27/11/2020 23:17:16 2316083 Link 11 |
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it may be the case that more "ordinary" people are playing rugby, but still it is a sport of the more well off as far as I and many see...alot of "experts" seem to have cropped up watching games over the years I notice, from backgrounds that rugby wouldnt be the norm, nothing wrong with that, but I see alot people watching "autumn internationals" as if its a world cup or something when infact they are merely rugby international challenge games, nothing more, yet due to the wealth associated with the sport, they are promoted and talked about as if they are huge games..not the case in my view...how Newstalk give nights discussing, individual players on "how he made space to release the ball from the ruck" etc. etc. is beyond me...what in the name of God is so glorious about the sport I dont know...everyone to their own, but saying rugby is played by many ordinary peope (or the opposite saying it is not eletist) is incorrect...look at the schools most of the players (not all but the majority go to) they are private schools...its a ok of a game but not a brilliant game by any means...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 27/11/2020 23:35:04 2316088 Link 0 |
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I would have thought that going from losing to Meath 5-9 to 0-13 in 2010 and going on to win 7 All_irelands in the next decade represented a far greater jump than the achievements of the hurlers which were not to be sneezed at either..
avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 28/11/2020 09:55:47 2316111 Link 4 |
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Isn't that why GPAs are needed in Dublin more than anywhere else?
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 28/11/2020 11:48:30 2316126 Link 0 |
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Where did I mention anything about civil war?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/11/2020 12:21:18 2316134 Link 0 |
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You could be right superblue lol. I did nt think of that. Daly will go where the money is.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 28/11/2020 13:20:04 2316144 Link 0 |
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Correct and a few other players left as well in their prime and were nt the same either when they came back. Sutcliffe was playing the hurling of his life before Cunningham.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 28/11/2020 13:22:18 2316145 Link 0 |
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What exactly is an "ordinary" person? They make up majority of membership of majority of clubs in the country and also majority of those that support the provinces. People from GAA need to get over the challenge game thing. Rugby dont treat the games like friendlies so who are you to say they are such. Theyre promoted as they are because the players, coaches, fans believe and know they are as important as they are. You dont get the game. Its clear through you talking about releasing ball from ruck. Rugby is played mainly by so called ordinary people. It has a lot from fee paying schools in the pro game because many of these schools are very big schools, who have most of their students playing rugby and training more than those who dont go to rugby schools. They also have financial resources to pay for coaches, strength and conditioniing coaches of a high level. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 28/11/2020 13:38:02 2316148 Link 1 |
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Jays, ha, that's rich coming from Cavan . That's probably what ye boys use as yeer to mane to spend the price of a Sliotar. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 28/11/2020 13:48:18 2316151 Link 0 |
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You're right. We need more money. As Cavanman47 said, we wouldn't know a spud from a sliothar. We need more funding to allow us to spread the faith. Clearly the millions that have been pumped in have yielded nothing so far. You can't but talent or titles so we need to cast the net further and secure more GDF to all us to develop the games within the non-GAA areas of Dublin.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 28/11/2020 14:13:42 2316157 Link 4 |
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Remember when you said that Cavan would be bet out the gate by Donegal over on the ulster final thread? You got that badly wrong didn't you! Now go away and clean that nose of yours will you.. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/11/2020 14:39:52 2316163 Link 1 |
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https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/jim-mcguinness-there-is-a-way-to-save-championship-and-make-it-competitive-again-1.4421447 Its almost as if Jimmy read your post Joxer. Some facts and figures for you to chew over. Hopefully you can at least agree per registered player the funding issue is in dire need of change SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 01/12/2020 16:34:54 2317367 Link 4 |
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The article will probably be dismissed as anti Dublin. And Jim Mc Guinness is anti Dublin etc.. Its about time GAA sat up and took note of the farce GAA Football is becoming.
bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 02/12/2020 15:19:27 2317705 Link 0 |
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I remember you hounding Mick because he wasn't as small minded as you and your Dolly alright. I remember that alright and you saying he wasn't from Kerry. Yeah, I presume you got that badly wrong or are you still of that opinion now ? You could do a bit more crawling there I suppose. You're good at that though.
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 02/12/2020 16:17:12 2317719 Link 2 |
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At this point the entire country is anti Dublin on a certain level anyway. Which isn't meant to be offensive towards the Dubs. Theyve made golden hay with what they've been afforded. For that they deserve a lot of credit. Obviously it just becomes hard to watch so many mismatches when they do play. People want to see other counties in with a chance of beating them. Those figures demonstrate an absolute gulf in development levels between Dublin and the rest. I'm sure most sensible Dublin people can understand the need for those figures to be balanced out so they don't have to put up with all the begrudging and the criticism they recieve for simply doing their best. I know I'm sick of listening to a lot of it and I'm not even from there. But at the same time if the AI football championship becomes an annual formality for one team, the fans will lose interest and turn to something else. Urgent change is the only thing that will prevent this I believe.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 02/12/2020 16:44:43 2317725 Link 2 |
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Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 02/12/2020 17:03:37 2317731 Link 1 |
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Sure we still don't know if mick is from kerry or not unless you've seen his birth cert? You said Cavan would be bet out the gate those are the words you used, bet out the gate. I hope you hadnt money on it :-) KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 03/12/2020 07:51:56 2317866 Link 1 |
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It's funny though When Kerry won 4 in a row and lost their 5th in a row by a single point they shrugged off that unfortunate blip and went onto win another 3 in a row... Kerry were 1pt away from an 8 in a row Incredible dominance it has to be said and Dublin have yet to eclipse that level of absolute dominace of the Football senior championship The Sky didn't fall down at the time.. The chances have been there to stop this Dublin team on numerous occasions just like Offaly did to Kerry but they weren't taken. Really substantial opportunities.. squandered. Dublin have hard earned this current run and the of dominace Kerry enjoyed with their 7 out of 8 hasn't been replicated. Kerry were by far and away the best team and dished out heavy beatings in finals Sure we even had Micko saying Dublin couldn't be called great until they hammered someone in a final.. that's his own experience of the dominance he reigned over. You have several Dublin players that are irreplaceable that will soon be calling it a day and at the very least will be moving out of their prime if they hang around but the day is coming. Yiz just have to be tiny bit more patient Dublin's dominance is far from unprecedented in terms of collecting titles and if Kerry can win 7 out of 8 without the GAA folding.. sure why can't Dublin? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 03/12/2020 19:01:39 2317995 Link 2 |
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I see your point Jimbo but just to clarify it was 7 out of 9.Kerry lost 5 in a row by late Offaly goal but following year lost v Cork by a last kick goal again but I do agree with your sentiment. Also I agreed with Micko s view as well but that was before 18 final. Dubs had been very lucky to win the previous 2 all Irelands v Mayo but after they beat Tyrone in 18 by 6 points Micko admitted they were a fab team and after last year nó arguement. I also think like yourself there's a panic reaction to it all. It was the same in Micko time. Let's ban the handpass. Kerry are taking over. Same with Kilkenny. People are getting carried away. This is a once in a lifetime special bunch of players and while Dubs will still produce great players(they always have) they might not all come at the same time. I for one not worried about the state of the game. I do think Dúin will win this year handy enough but next year I can see 4 or 5 teams ready to challenge them again. Like Kilkenny and Kerry things will subside a little. They will always be up there but not as dominant.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 03/12/2020 19:20:14 2318001 Link 0 |