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We've had the best Provincial Championships in years! My team of the Provincial Championships: Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 958 - 22/11/2020 20:26:17 2313356 Link 1 |
Padraig Faulkner of Cavan, ahead of McGee. He's been phenomenal. 6 for us might be generous so take another out if you have to, but Faulkner has been brilliant. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 22/11/2020 20:59:29 2313418 Link 2 |
I'd be comfortable enough in saying that McKiernan, Conor Sweeney, Thomas Galligan, and Paddy Durcan have all secured All Stars. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 377 - 22/11/2020 21:18:56 2313455 Link 2 |
Hard to argue with your provincial picks, but FOTY tends to be weighted heavily towards the semi-final and final and I can't see this year being any different even if it's been different in almost every other way.
Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 23/11/2020 15:56:56 2314082 Link 0 |
I think depending on the semis and final if Dublin win it out they will get poty and rightly so. Maybe Kilkenny or even Scully who has been excellent. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 23/11/2020 16:06:34 2314095 Link 0 |
Kilkenny has been excellent of course, but Dublin have had 3 gimmes so far, whereas Cavan have won 4 matches in consecutive weekends (each of which they trailed at half time) and three of them are all-time classics (none of these on home soil). Dublin winning would be an incredible achievement yes, but unless Kilkenny (or anyone) puts in genuinely exceptional MOTM performances in the next two fixtures I don't think any Dublin player would match either of Galligan's or Sweeney's performances to date, even if they put in stinkers in the semi. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 377 - 23/11/2020 16:25:52 2314109 Link 0 |
You ré spot on Surely. Its a bit early to talk about pity. Last year Stephen Ó Brien Kerry was favourite for poty before the all ireland final after a smashing year. He did nt even get an all star in the end. The semis and final will be big factors.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3675 - 23/11/2020 16:30:04 2314118 Link 0 |
Wasn't the Antrim game in Breffni Park.
MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 421 - 23/11/2020 17:01:14 2314140 Link 0 |
Ah i think your being a bit romantic about it all. It will all depend on the Semis. I'd argue that you have proven the point we have been disussing on other thread re Leinster and unfair advantages. Meath , Kildare and Laois would be no gimmes for Ulster or Connaught or Munster opposution to be fair. Kilkenny has drove the Dubs to 10 leinsters and will be to the fore when the destroy Cavan. I think Cavan will get 1 all star perhaps but Tipp? Who have they bet of note? A division 3 Cork team? daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 23/11/2020 17:31:50 2314156 Link 0 |
It's all relative. When I talk of gimmes I don't mean to bring up inequities in the provincial championships. None of Dublin's games would be gimmes in any other province. I simply mean to put the performances of any potential footballer of the year or All Star into context. The FOTY and All Star awards are romantic by nature, they're not decided by data analysts nor statisticians, so yes, I think you've sussed where I'm coming from. I don't think awards like these should follow strict precedents like FOTY should come from AI winners, or league winners get an All Star etc. (3 winners of FOTY in the 2010s came from non-Sam winning teams) I think when you have exceptional candidates like Sweeney and Galligan who've both legitimately written their names in GAA history this month are more than worth a mention when the discussion of POTY comes around. In my opinion Dublin will stroll to another All Ireland, but I have no doubt that both Sweeney and Galligan in the form they showed this campaign would make Dublin a better team. SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 377 - 23/11/2020 20:35:57 2314276 Link 0 |
They should get a few based on their performances. Sweeney and Fahey Liam Casey, Comerford could get nominations.. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3510 - 23/11/2020 20:43:54 2314282 Link 0 |
Would be lovely to see Cavan and Tipp getting three or four All stars but that's not going to happen unless either or both reach the final. Dublin will get seven, the other finalist four, or three, depending on how much they lose by. The Provincial winners will get one each, the League winners probably one and, seeing as it's Christmas, there will be one surprise. They might put all the Dubs in a hat and pull out the three nominations for player of the year. If Carlsberg did Allstars it might be different but sadly they don't! Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 23/11/2020 22:00:54 2314355 Link 0 |
I'm going to mention Ian Corbett for Centre back on this team ye are talking about..played very in the matches after football restart.. CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2214 - 23/11/2020 22:31:44 2314383 Link 0 |
Or they might ignore what happened on the field and wait for the ex Dublin players in the papers to tell them who should get POTY.
cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 24/11/2020 08:02:51 2314448 Link 3 |
Not exactly on topic but related. Where would you rank the teams now in the Championship? HS article last week ranked Cavan at 10, Tipp at 19, Donegal at 2 I'm not sure that the four remaining would be 1-4 but surely last week's results give rise to a Rethink. indaknownow (Offaly) - Posts: 112 - 24/11/2020 14:12:50 2314695 Link 2 |
Jesus theres some ridiculous stuff being thrown in there by people. I haven't seen enough football to say who should or shouldn't be included, but its always based on the winners getting 6-8 of the 15 places, finalists get 4/5 whether reasonable or not and semi finalists 1 each. No one else outside of that will be mentioned. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 24/11/2020 15:23:17 2314740 Link 2 |
It's just slightly different this year. I can't see Tipp and Cavan's provincial wins not netting them 1 each as an absolute minimum. Then take into account that Cavan have played 4 games (more than anyone so far), and the same players have been particularly outstanding throughout all 4 (the 2 Galligans, McKiernan, Faulkner). I think no matter what happens v dublin, 2 of those will get all stars, and possibly 3. With Dublin, assuming they do win it, I'd have to say that the usual suspects have been outstanding (Con, Rock, Fenton, Kilkenny, Scully). Cooper has probably been the only outstanding back, because their backing hasn't been asked any questions. So if they got only 7 or 8 it wouldn't be a shock. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 24/11/2020 17:21:18 2314814 Link 2 |
OP was about the team on the provincial championships... The Allstars and POTY... now that's a different matter and will decided from here on in as has been the case in previous years. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 24/11/2020 18:05:59 2314842 Link 1 |
Wouldnt that be great if both were even nominated?
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 25/11/2020 00:06:50 2315069 Link 0 |
I think Kevin Fahey for Tipp might get in if the All Star team was picked now tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 25/11/2020 00:08:36 2315070 Link 0 |