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Team Of The Provincial Championships

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We've had the best Provincial Championships in years! My team of the Provincial Championships:

Galligan
Barrett McGee Meehan
Smith Durcan McLaughlin
McKiernan Langan
Bugler Kilkenny Mogan
Sweeney Galligan Madden

That's 1 player each from Cork and Tipp, 2 Dublin, 3 Donegal, 3 Mayo and 5 Cavan. I think that's a fair spread based on opposition beat by each team. Hardest done by would be Tipp but I found it hard to pick any other outstanding individuals after Conor Sweeney. Quinlivan was close and was very good in the final but was quiet enough against Clare and Limerick. A lot of the players I picked above wouldn't have been rated anywhere near a team of anything before the championship, so it just shows what an unpredictable championship we've had to date. Would like to see what team other people would go with.

My player of the Provincial Championships would be Thomas Galligan. What a colossus he's been. He epitomises everything Cavan have been about I think. He's one of the strongest players in the country, a brilliant fielder and an absolute leader and warrior. And to think he didn't even start for Cavan the first day out!

Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 595 - 22/11/2020 20:26:17    2313356

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Replying To Kerry15:  "We've had the best Provincial Championships in years! My team of the Provincial Championships:

Galligan
Barrett McGee Meehan
Smith Durcan McLaughlin
McKiernan Langan
Bugler Kilkenny Mogan
Sweeney Galligan Madden

That's 1 player each from Cork and Tipp, 2 Dublin, 3 Donegal, 3 Mayo and 5 Cavan. I think that's a fair spread based on opposition beat by each team. Hardest done by would be Tipp but I found it hard to pick any other outstanding individuals after Conor Sweeney. Quinlivan was close and was very good in the final but was quiet enough against Clare and Limerick. A lot of the players I picked above wouldn't have been rated anywhere near a team of anything before the championship, so it just shows what an unpredictable championship we've had to date. Would like to see what team other people would go with.

My player of the Provincial Championships would be Thomas Galligan. What a colossus he's been. He epitomises everything Cavan have been about I think. He's one of the strongest players in the country, a brilliant fielder and an absolute leader and warrior. And to think he didn't even start for Cavan the first day out!"
Padraig Faulkner of Cavan, ahead of McGee.

He's been phenomenal.

6 for us might be generous so take another out if you have to, but Faulkner has been brilliant.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4122 - 22/11/2020 20:59:29    2313418

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I'd be comfortable enough in saying that McKiernan, Conor Sweeney, Thomas Galligan, and Paddy Durcan have all secured All Stars.

Munster Player of the Championship: Conor Sweeney
Connacht: Paddy Durcan
Leinster: Ciaran Kilkenny
Ulster: Thomas Galligan

I'd be inclined to think Conor Sweeney and Thomas Galligan are frontrunners for FOTY even if they don't make it to the final. Their respective provincial campaigns have been more memorable and impressive than many All Ireland winning campaigns of this century.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 191 - 22/11/2020 21:18:56    2313455

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "I'd be comfortable enough in saying that McKiernan, Conor Sweeney, Thomas Galligan, and Paddy Durcan have all secured All Stars.

Munster Player of the Championship: Conor Sweeney
Connacht: Paddy Durcan
Leinster: Ciaran Kilkenny
Ulster: Thomas Galligan

I'd be inclined to think Conor Sweeney and Thomas Galligan are frontrunners for FOTY even if they don't make it to the final. Their respective provincial campaigns have been more memorable and impressive than many All Ireland winning campaigns of this century."
Hard to argue with your provincial picks, but FOTY tends to be weighted heavily towards the semi-final and final and I can't see this year being any different even if it's been different in almost every other way.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2188 - 23/11/2020 15:56:56    2314082

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I think depending on the semis and final if Dublin win it out they will get poty and rightly so. Maybe Kilkenny or even Scully who has been excellent.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3749 - 23/11/2020 16:06:34    2314095

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Replying To daytona11:  "I think depending on the semis and final if Dublin win it out they will get poty and rightly so. Maybe Kilkenny or even Scully who has been excellent."
Kilkenny has been excellent of course, but Dublin have had 3 gimmes so far, whereas Cavan have won 4 matches in consecutive weekends (each of which they trailed at half time) and three of them are all-time classics (none of these on home soil).

Dublin winning would be an incredible achievement yes, but unless Kilkenny (or anyone) puts in genuinely exceptional MOTM performances in the next two fixtures I don't think any Dublin player would match either of Galligan's or Sweeney's performances to date, even if they put in stinkers in the semi.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 191 - 23/11/2020 16:25:52    2314109

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "I'd be comfortable enough in saying that McKiernan, Conor Sweeney, Thomas Galligan, and Paddy Durcan have all secured All Stars.

Munster Player of the Championship: Conor Sweeney
Connacht: Paddy Durcan
Leinster: Ciaran Kilkenny
Ulster: Thomas Galligan

I'd be inclined to think Conor Sweeney and Thomas Galligan are frontrunners for FOTY even if they don't make it to the final. Their respective provincial campaigns have been more memorable and impressive than many All Ireland winning campaigns of this century."
You ré spot on Surely. Its a bit early to talk about pity. Last year Stephen Ó Brien Kerry was favourite for poty before the all ireland final after a smashing year. He did nt even get an all star in the end. The semis and final will be big factors.

CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 574 - 23/11/2020 16:30:04    2314118

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "Kilkenny has been excellent of course, but Dublin have had 3 gimmes so far, whereas Cavan have won 4 matches in consecutive weekends (each of which they trailed at half time) and three of them are all-time classics (none of these on home soil).

Dublin winning would be an incredible achievement yes, but unless Kilkenny (or anyone) puts in genuinely exceptional MOTM performances in the next two fixtures I don't think any Dublin player would match either of Galligan's or Sweeney's performances to date, even if they put in stinkers in the semi."
Wasn't the Antrim game in Breffni Park.

MicktheMiller (Offaly) - Posts: 108 - 23/11/2020 17:01:14    2314140

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Replying To SurelyToGod:  "Kilkenny has been excellent of course, but Dublin have had 3 gimmes so far, whereas Cavan have won 4 matches in consecutive weekends (each of which they trailed at half time) and three of them are all-time classics (none of these on home soil).

Dublin winning would be an incredible achievement yes, but unless Kilkenny (or anyone) puts in genuinely exceptional MOTM performances in the next two fixtures I don't think any Dublin player would match either of Galligan's or Sweeney's performances to date, even if they put in stinkers in the semi."
Ah i think your being a bit romantic about it all. It will all depend on the Semis. I'd argue that you have proven the point we have been disussing on other thread re Leinster and unfair advantages. Meath , Kildare and Laois would be no gimmes for Ulster or Connaught or Munster opposution to be fair. Kilkenny has drove the Dubs to 10 leinsters and will be to the fore when the destroy Cavan.

I think Cavan will get 1 all star perhaps but Tipp? Who have they bet of note? A division 3 Cork team?

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 3749 - 23/11/2020 17:31:50    2314156

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Replying To daytona11:  "Ah i think your being a bit romantic about it all. It will all depend on the Semis. I'd argue that you have proven the point we have been disussing on other thread re Leinster and unfair advantages. Meath , Kildare and Laois would be no gimmes for Ulster or Connaught or Munster opposution to be fair. Kilkenny has drove the Dubs to 10 leinsters and will be to the fore when the destroy Cavan.

I think Cavan will get 1 all star perhaps but Tipp? Who have they bet of note? A division 3 Cork team?"
It's all relative. When I talk of gimmes I don't mean to bring up inequities in the provincial championships. None of Dublin's games would be gimmes in any other province. I simply mean to put the performances of any potential footballer of the year or All Star into context.

The FOTY and All Star awards are romantic by nature, they're not decided by data analysts nor statisticians, so yes, I think you've sussed where I'm coming from. I don't think awards like these should follow strict precedents like FOTY should come from AI winners, or league winners get an All Star etc. (3 winners of FOTY in the 2010s came from non-Sam winning teams)

I think when you have exceptional candidates like Sweeney and Galligan who've both legitimately written their names in GAA history this month are more than worth a mention when the discussion of POTY comes around. In my opinion Dublin will stroll to another All Ireland, but I have no doubt that both Sweeney and Galligan in the form they showed this campaign would make Dublin a better team.

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 191 - 23/11/2020 20:35:57    2314276

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Replying To daytona11:  "Ah i think your being a bit romantic about it all. It will all depend on the Semis. I'd argue that you have proven the point we have been disussing on other thread re Leinster and unfair advantages. Meath , Kildare and Laois would be no gimmes for Ulster or Connaught or Munster opposution to be fair. Kilkenny has drove the Dubs to 10 leinsters and will be to the fore when the destroy Cavan.

I think Cavan will get 1 all star perhaps but Tipp? Who have they bet of note? A division 3 Cork team?"
They should get a few based on their performances.
Sweeney and Fahey
Liam Casey, Comerford could get nominations..

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 1625 - 23/11/2020 20:43:54    2314282

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Would be lovely to see Cavan and Tipp getting three or four All stars but that's not going to happen unless either or both reach the final. Dublin will get seven, the other finalist four, or three, depending on how much they lose by. The Provincial winners will get one each, the League winners probably one and, seeing as it's Christmas, there will be one surprise. They might put all the Dubs in a hat and pull out the three nominations for player of the year. If Carlsberg did Allstars it might be different but sadly they don't!

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1102 - 23/11/2020 22:00:54    2314355

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I'm going to mention Ian Corbett for Centre back on this team ye are talking about..played very in the matches after football restart..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 1044 - 23/11/2020 22:31:44    2314383

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "Would be lovely to see Cavan and Tipp getting three or four All stars but that's not going to happen unless either or both reach the final. Dublin will get seven, the other finalist four, or three, depending on how much they lose by. The Provincial winners will get one each, the League winners probably one and, seeing as it's Christmas, there will be one surprise. They might put all the Dubs in a hat and pull out the three nominations for player of the year. If Carlsberg did Allstars it might be different but sadly they don't!"
Or they might ignore what happened on the field and wait for the ex Dublin players in the papers to tell them who should get POTY.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4122 - 24/11/2020 08:02:51    2314448

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