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Replying To BarneyGrant: "Im referring to Dublin. Catholic and Protestant "elite" schools all banned GAA, some until my memory. Of course you don't hear "historians" of our dreadful past on about that. I was in vocational school in late 70s which was stopped from playing in Leinster junior cup because we were too close to a middle class school who objected! They had no GAA btw. We had won Dublin football and soccer competitions and had All Ireland winning boxers and athletes. They were probably afraid we'd whip their asses." Protestant schools where many kids didn't play gaelic ever or very very few as before secondary school the kids played rugby, soccer hockey cricket? Don't think any really banned it but certainly didn't attempt to play gaelic games. They do now. Too close to what school and these things wouldn't happen now. There's competitions in rugby for schools at all levels and ways to progress even to top level. KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3674 - 11/10/2024 10:05:48 2574153 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You are clueless. You constantly ignore the fact there are too many matches during the year alongside the cost of attending games and most games are televised." Funny how it doesn't affect Hurling attendance figures even though the game may be televised live…. I suspect it might have something to do with the quality of fare that's on show….. The top guys know the game has become a basket case hence the trying out of a raft of rule changes at the one time never seen before in any sport but the deluded just can't bring themselves to admit it…. poor lads ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 11/10/2024 13:15:37 2574187 Link
If anything CavanBlue I do admire your perseverance. I enjoy a number of sports including Gaelic Football. I do not agree with you entirely as all games evolve due to tactical innovations, fitness levels of participants etc. However I do feel there is something wrong when after about 15-20 minutes of a special occasion such as this years All Ireland Final you can hear the coaching from the sidelines because the crowd are so quiet. Having said that I still enjoyed the game between two evenly matched teams. Brummiejoe (UK) - Posts: 8 - 11/10/2024 13:29:28 2574191 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Funny how it doesn't affect Hurling attendance figures even though the game may be televised live…. I suspect it might have something to do with the quality of fare that's on show….. The top guys know the game has become a basket case hence the trying out of a raft of rule changes at the one time never seen before in any sport but the deluded just can't bring themselves to admit it…. poor lads" Ah yes Hurling. The game of 2 provinces. Hurling is a minority sport compared to Gaelic football. So much so they had to get rid of 2 provinces to make it a viable competition. Hurling is brilliant to watch but it's a small number of teams playing each other more than once in a championship season to make sure it's a spectacle. Big attendances in the hurling games in Connaught and Ulster is there? TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8157 - 11/10/2024 13:53:33 2574195 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Ah yes Hurling. The game of 2 provinces. Hurling is a minority sport compared to Gaelic football. So much so they had to get rid of 2 provinces to make it a viable competition. Hurling is brilliant to watch but it's a small number of teams playing each other more than once in a championship season to make sure it's a spectacle. Big attendances in the hurling games in Connaught and Ulster is there?" Big enough crowds at some Ulster club games. At the end of the day it's only a "minority sport" there because you have 2 Provinces largely populated by half-gaels;-) Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 11/10/2024 14:19:05 2574203 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Big enough crowds at some Ulster club games. At the end of the day it's only a "minority sport" there because you have 2 Provinces largely populated by half-gaels;-)" And i am not having a pop at hurling more the ridiculous comparison. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8157 - 11/10/2024 15:43:55 2574222 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "And i am not having a pop at hurling more the ridiculous comparison." The problem with attendances at alot of Leinster and Munster Football games is the dominance of Kerry and Dublin. The other problem in the AI series is meaningless games, super 8s, then 12 games to get rid of 4 teams. My post was only tongue in cheek! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 11/10/2024 16:21:16 2574236 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Ah yes Hurling. The game of 2 provinces. Hurling is a minority sport compared to Gaelic football. So much so they had to get rid of 2 provinces to make it a viable competition. Hurling is brilliant to watch but it's a small number of teams playing each other more than once in a championship season to make sure it's a spectacle. Big attendances in the hurling games in Connaught and Ulster is there?" Even the lowest National hurling league match would surpass the embarrassing official attendance of 75 that attended an inter county football match between Longford and Waterford in the Taltainn Cup… You rightly say hurling is brilliant to watch but unfortunately the same thing can't be said of football.. Even the All Ireland final was a woeful spectacle in comparison to its hurling counterpart… Anyone who can't see this needs their head examined…. Those at the top have finally admitted to it (unlike you) and are now trying all sorts of changes in the hope of getting people back through the turnstiles but I have a feeling they are going to destroy what was once a great game for ever with the nonsense they are proposing…. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 11/10/2024 16:35:49 2574238 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "Ah yes Hurling. The game of 2 provinces. Hurling is a minority sport compared to Gaelic football. So much so they had to get rid of 2 provinces to make it a viable competition. Hurling is brilliant to watch but it's a small number of teams playing each other more than once in a championship season to make sure it's a spectacle. Big attendances in the hurling games in Connaught and Ulster is there?" Too scared to play hurling in Mayo. Only two competitive provinces in football now too. bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4643 - 11/10/2024 18:47:37 2574249 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Even the lowest National hurling league match would surpass the embarrassing official attendance of 75 that attended an inter county football match between Longford and Waterford in the Taltainn Cup… You rightly say hurling is brilliant to watch but unfortunately the same thing can't be said of football.. Even the All Ireland final was a woeful spectacle in comparison to its hurling counterpart… Anyone who can't see this needs their head examined…. Those at the top have finally admitted to it (unlike you) and are now trying all sorts of changes in the hope of getting people back through the turnstiles but I have a feeling they are going to destroy what was once a great game for ever with the nonsense they are proposing…." You fairly skipped over my overall point there on how many counties are competitive in Hurling. What a surprise. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8157 - 11/10/2024 21:37:09 2574261 Link
Replying To KillingFields: "Protestant schools where many kids didn't play gaelic ever or very very few as before secondary school the kids played rugby, soccer hockey cricket? Don't think any really banned it but certainly didn't attempt to play gaelic games. They do now. Too close to what school and these things wouldn't happen now. There's competitions in rugby for schools at all levels and ways to progress even to top level." Dundalk Grammar School still have a ban! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3126 - 11/10/2024 22:11:14 2574266 Link
Replying To Brummiejoe: "If anything CavanBlue I do admire your perseverance. I enjoy a number of sports including Gaelic Football. I do not agree with you entirely as all games evolve due to tactical innovations, fitness levels of participants etc. However I do feel there is something wrong when after about 15-20 minutes of a special occasion such as this years All Ireland Final you can hear the coaching from the sidelines because the crowd are so quiet. Having said that I still enjoyed the game between two evenly matched teams." You are 100% right… of course there is something wrong when during an All Ireland football final you can hear a pin drop but the deluded can't get it or admit to it… Maybe it's their down time when they can get some peace and quiet..: You certainly didn't hear any coaching from the sidelines during the Hurling Final as the atmosphere was electric… ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 12/10/2024 08:25:26 2574287 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You fairly skipped over my overall point there on how many counties are competitive in Hurling. What a surprise." About the same as there are in Football tbh. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 12/10/2024 10:14:42 2574300 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You fairly skipped over my overall point there on how many counties are competitive in Hurling. What a surprise." About the same as there are in Football tbh. Think there have been 8 different winners of both the AI Football and AI Hurling championships over the last 30 years. 6 in both over the last 20 years. 5 in Hurling and 6 in Football the last 10 years. All pretty even. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 12/10/2024 10:19:49 2574302 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "You fairly skipped over my overall point there on how many counties are competitive in Hurling. What a surprise." Exactly how many are competitive in football do you think…? 5/6 maybe at a push have a realistic chance of winning an All Ireland…. probably the same if not more in hurling….. What a surprise you couldn't work that out…. ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 12/10/2024 10:46:58 2574309 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Exactly how many are competitive in football do you think…? 5/6 maybe at a push have a realistic chance of winning an All Ireland…. probably the same if not more in hurling….. What a surprise you couldn't work that out…." That doesn't mean my overall point doesn't stand. 5 or 6 teams capable of winning the hurling? No chance. TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8157 - 12/10/2024 11:26:52 2574316 Link
Replying To Viking66: "About the same as there are in Football tbh. Think there have been 8 different winners of both the AI Football and AI Hurling championships over the last 30 years. 6 in both over the last 20 years. 5 in Hurling and 6 in Football the last 10 years. All pretty even." Dublin, Kerry and Tyrone have won 17 of the last 20 AIs. Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 1960 - 12/10/2024 11:48:13 2574319 Link
Replying To ForeverBlue2: "Exactly how many are competitive in football do you think…? 5/6 maybe at a push have a realistic chance of winning an All Ireland…. probably the same if not more in hurling….. What a surprise you couldn't work that out…." There's nowhere near 6 teams capable of winning the hurling.at the moment. Clare were a breath of fresh air this year. It was great to see. At most at the moment there are three teams capable of winning the hurling. If Limerick get back on the horse next year you could be back to one team capable of winning the hurling. That'll be interesting. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6144 - 12/10/2024 12:12:36 2574326 Link
Over the last 20 years there has been 6 different winners of the football championship and 6 different winners of the hurling championship, but with a much better spread of winners in the hurling. tireoghainabu (Tyrone) - Posts: 338 - 12/10/2024 14:34:58 2574346 Link
Replying To TheFlaker: "That doesn't mean my overall point doesn't stand. 5 or 6 teams capable of winning the hurling? No chance." Would you have had Clare and Cork as finalists this year? Or Galway and Armagh in the Football? Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13884 - 12/10/2024 18:37:54 2574385 Link