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Tommy Conlon On Sean Boylan's Meath

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Fair play to Gerry mcentee on putting mr Conlon in his rightful place. Always a hero Gerry. Be it on the field in the operating room or on clear speaking

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16715 - 17/08/2020 17:42:31    2287945

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Replying To sam1884:  "Good post!! Boylan provided Meath people with their glory days. Their record since and you could argue for decades before his arrival shows the magitude of the man's success. Meath is an average footballing county like 7 or 8 others - in a group with a few of the Ulster counties, Cork, Galway, Mayo etc. They'll always struggle to consistently maintain that type of success and in truth might never witness that relentless period of success again. I don't think anyone will ever match his success in Meath in the generations to come. A bit like Big Jack and the Irish soccer team, Meath people around during the Boylan years should count themselves fortunate."
Only thing one or two of the counties you mention in that group would have a better spread in terms of different periods for their successes. I get the kernel of your point though.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1693 - 17/08/2020 19:12:13    2287961

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Replying To republicofcloone:  "Why would being from Leitrim explain his bitterness? Seems like a cheap shot there. Boylan's mother was from Leitrim and Meath's greatest ever player was from Leitrim. Meath is held in high regard down my way."
Conlon is from Sligo. And yes O'Rourke was the greatest Meath player ever.

Oldertourman (Limerick) - Posts: 161 - 18/08/2020 13:52:48    2288054

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Replying To Oldertourman:  "Conlon is from Sligo. And yes O'Rourke was the greatest Meath player ever."
O'Rourke was certainly one of our best, but for me Graham Geraghty is the best Meath player I've ever seen.

All very subjective of course and I'd love to have either of them at the minute!

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8474 - 18/08/2020 14:21:13    2288058

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Geraghty yes, but even though he was a pup, Colm Coyle was a very complete footballer.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1336 - 18/08/2020 16:53:22    2288094

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Replying To lilypad:  "Geraghty yes, but even though he was a pup, Colm Coyle was a very complete footballer."
Ahh coyler was a brilliant footballer, lost out on a all star before Meath won a all ire for been sent off in league game. Totally unfair on the man.
For me and many other Meath people. Graham Geraghty was and probably will remain the greatest Meath player of all time. I would actually say he is probably one of the greatest to ever play the game.
That been said I'd take a O'Rourke Giles Hayes mcentee O'Connell now.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16715 - 18/08/2020 18:49:29    2288110

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ahh coyler was a brilliant footballer, lost out on a all star before Meath won a all ire for been sent off in league game. Totally unfair on the man.
For me and many other Meath people. Graham Geraghty was and probably will remain the greatest Meath player of all time. I would actually say he is probably one of the greatest to ever play the game.
That been said I'd take a O'Rourke Giles Hayes mcentee O'Connell now."
Have to admit geraghty was top level for sure

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1336 - 18/08/2020 20:54:08    2288122

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ahh coyler was a brilliant footballer, lost out on a all star before Meath won a all ire for been sent off in league game. Totally unfair on the man.
For me and many other Meath people. Graham Geraghty was and probably will remain the greatest Meath player of all time. I would actually say he is probably one of the greatest to ever play the game.
That been said I'd take a O'Rourke Giles Hayes mcentee O'Connell now."
In my humble opinion Graham Geraghty is one of the most gifted footballers ever to grace Croke Park the other been Diarmuid Connolly. Both these players had it every way skill,toughness ,ball winning ability, kick off left or right foot and bit of the devil in them.

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 435 - 23/08/2020 22:39:17    2288830

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Replying To dubarra:  "In my humble opinion Graham Geraghty is one of the most gifted footballers ever to grace Croke Park the other been Diarmuid Connolly. Both these players had it every way skill,toughness ,ball winning ability, kick off left or right foot and bit of the devil in them."
Wonder would Boylan have done for Geraghty what Pillar did for Connolly, or would he have had the power to do it? I suspect not on both counts.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 3974 - 24/08/2020 07:27:01    2288848

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Replying To dubarra:  "In my humble opinion Graham Geraghty is one of the most gifted footballers ever to grace Croke Park the other been Diarmuid Connolly. Both these players had it every way skill,toughness ,ball winning ability, kick off left or right foot and bit of the devil in them."
Totally agree

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 16715 - 24/08/2020 12:53:44    2288896

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Personally I thought the documentary itself was poor, just a few ex players giving the usual anecdotes, to be honest it was terrible stuff and another example of what a shambles of network RTE really is

Galway4ever (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 27/08/2020 21:39:21    2289423

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Tommy Conlon live on Off the Ball now. Already negative on Stephen Kenny and his team's chances before a ball has even been kicked. On the bright side Conor McKeon sounds one to look out for, realism and positivity. Conlon is a screenwriter and describes himself as an indie/Liberal on his Twitter. He has a Betty Blue picture on the wall so he might be an acquired taste.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5872 - 30/08/2020 14:35:53    2289765

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GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5872 - 30/08/2020 14:47:13    2289767

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How did McEntee put Conlon in his place? Conlon made a justified argument in his newspaper column. Documentary was a fluffy, light piece. Zero analysis of how Sean Boylan managed to initially win over a bunch of talented men in their late 20s whose careers at that level were in freefall. Likewise nothing on how Boylan felt about the various shenanigans of McEntee, Coyne, O' Connell and McGuinness at times, The refusal by Harnan and McEntee to accept their medals from GAA President John Dowling, a fantastic Gael who devoted his life to the Association. These were all significant aspects of Meath's story in the 80s and 90s and, as the man in charge, Boylan should have addressed them. That wouldn't have diminished the standing of Sean Boylan as a superb manager, one of the greatest ever.

Claretandblue (Westmeath) - Posts: 87 - 04/09/2020 01:40:24    2290490

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Replying To Claretandblue:  "How did McEntee put Conlon in his place? Conlon made a justified argument in his newspaper column. Documentary was a fluffy, light piece. Zero analysis of how Sean Boylan managed to initially win over a bunch of talented men in their late 20s whose careers at that level were in freefall. Likewise nothing on how Boylan felt about the various shenanigans of McEntee, Coyne, O' Connell and McGuinness at times, The refusal by Harnan and McEntee to accept their medals from GAA President John Dowling, a fantastic Gael who devoted his life to the Association. These were all significant aspects of Meath's story in the 80s and 90s and, as the man in charge, Boylan should have addressed them. That wouldn't have diminished the standing of Sean Boylan as a superb manager, one of the greatest ever."
Your point is about as justified as Conlon's piece. Slinging mud with no balance.

Yes documentary was light but it wasn't a documentary about Meath football, it was a documentary about the man. If you wanted a documentary about Meath football duirng that time and all of the alleged incidents it would take about 6 weeks to get through over multiple nights.

Various shenanigans, would you care to elaborate or is that more mud slinging. I know Martin O'Connell and a finer gentleman you'll never meet in your life. If you're trying to refer to the Tyrone incident its long established he didn't intend any foul play. That was never Martin's game. Most Tyrone gaels have accepted that and moved on too. Why do so many other counties still try and drag it up??

brian (Meath) - Posts: 892 - 04/09/2020 12:07:47    2290531

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Replying To brian:  "Your point is about as justified as Conlon's piece. Slinging mud with no balance.

Yes documentary was light but it wasn't a documentary about Meath football, it was a documentary about the man. If you wanted a documentary about Meath football duirng that time and all of the alleged incidents it would take about 6 weeks to get through over multiple nights.

Various shenanigans, would you care to elaborate or is that more mud slinging. I know Martin O'Connell and a finer gentleman you'll never meet in your life. If you're trying to refer to the Tyrone incident its long established he didn't intend any foul play. That was never Martin's game. Most Tyrone gaels have accepted that and moved on too. Why do so many other counties still try and drag it up??"
Envy.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5872 - 04/09/2020 15:21:01    2290569

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Envy."
All I have to say is I enjoyed the documentary, even as a Dub whose heart was broke by Boylan's Meath on many a day. Maybe it was a bit light, I dunno, but it gave an interesting insight into a man who has definitely been one of the most notable managers in Irish sport and a most unlikely one as well. Must say I did not like Conlon's article, mean-spirited.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 191 - 04/09/2020 19:16:15    2290598

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