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Replying To Ulsterman:  "It doesn't matter if the devices were real or are hoaxes, the damage has been done. Many parents will be loathe to put their kids in a position of danger now and I will be surprised if the club survives at all. Loyalists have got the reaction they wanted. This is what it's like to be a Gael in the North."
you think the club will fold? After one bomb call? If that was the case we wouldnt have a single club in the 6. Antrim resolve at its best again

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 31 - 07/08/2020 08:41:23    2286700

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Hopefully they can find who did this."
Disgusting...many GAA clubs in the north have had to put up with crap like this down the years."
Well to a degree yes.

This particular club is at more risk.

Its inane stuff. The unionist people that did this or support it need to own their Irish identity. Embrace the sport and the language rather than becoming entrenched in their binary view that they can't be unionist and Irish. Carson played hurling after all."]tell that to Linda Ervine

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 31 - 07/08/2020 08:47:51    2286701

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"a product of their background and peers"

What would you say about the Ervines?

Canuckgael (USA) - Posts: 31 - 07/08/2020 08:49:14    2286702

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "
Replying To Gator:  "[quote=yew_tree:  "[quote=GreenandRed:  "link

Hopefully they can find who did this."
Disgusting...many GAA clubs in the north have had to put up with crap like this down the years."
Well to a degree yes.

This particular club is at more risk.

Its inane stuff. The unionist people that did this or support it need to own their Irish identity. Embrace the sport and the language rather than becoming entrenched in their binary view that they can't be unionist and Irish. Carson played hurling after all."]tell that to Linda Ervine"]Why tell that to Linda Irvine? She's at least trying to do something positive between the communities. Just as you stereotype Antrim people in another post. That identity politics is working brilliantly in your part of the world isn't it?

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2501 - 07/08/2020 14:13:17    2286762

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Replying To Canuckgael:  "you think the club will fold? After one bomb call? If that was the case we wouldnt have a single club in the 6. Antrim resolve at its best again"
Antrim people, particularly Belfast people, took the brunt of the conflict and suffered the most deaths and injuries. Our Gaelic clubs were no different, Ardoyne, St. Endas, Pearses etc, all had members murdered, attacked and clubhouses targeted so don't talk guff about Belfast resolve. The resilience of Antrim people, particularly Belfast folk, is that we have taken everything that could be thrown at us and not only are we still here but going from strength to strength. I hope the East Belfast club will survive and flourish but I do think these won't be the last attacks on it. I wonder in 2020 will parents put their kids into a scenario where their club, and consequently their safety, is targeted on a regular basis? We live in a totally different era.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9785 - 08/08/2020 01:58:50    2286825

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Antrim people, particularly Belfast people, took the brunt of the conflict and suffered the most deaths and injuries. Our Gaelic clubs were no different, Ardoyne, St. Endas, Pearses etc, all had members murdered, attacked and clubhouses targeted so don't talk guff about Belfast resolve. The resilience of Antrim people, particularly Belfast folk, is that we have taken everything that could be thrown at us and not only are we still here but going from strength to strength. I hope the East Belfast club will survive and flourish but I do think these won't be the last attacks on it. I wonder in 2020 will parents put their kids into a scenario where their club, and consequently their safety, is targeted on a regular basis? We live in a totally different era."
I wish East Belfast GAC well and would love to see it succeed, but I'm pessimistic. I feel it's to soon for something like this. And for me, a major barrier is the religiously segregated education system.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2654 - 08/08/2020 09:55:02    2286837

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00185w0

Link to the show on BBC 2 last night if you're looking something to watch.

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1558 - 25/07/2023 16:03:01    2496853

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That is why I would never visit the Titanic centre in Belfast.

PattyONeill (Derry) - Posts: 246 - 25/07/2023 17:27:30    2496891

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "I wish East Belfast GAC well and would love to see it succeed, but I'm pessimistic. I feel it's to soon for something like this. And for me, a major barrier is the religiously segregated education system."
You obviously don't know anything about the 6 counties if you think that the "segregated education system" is to blame for anything!

Our people in Belfast are segregated from the rest because they were burned and murdered out of every other part of the city. East Belfast GAA and the Irish language courses are great. It is their own lunatics they have to fear unfortunately.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 25/07/2023 18:09:18    2496904

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "Disgusting...many GAA clubs in the north have had to put up with crap like this down the years."
Well to a degree yes.

This particular club is at more risk.

Its inane stuff. The unionist people that did this or support it need to own their Irish identity. Embrace the sport and the language rather than becoming entrenched in their binary view that they can't be unionist and Irish. Carson played hurling after all."]tell that to Linda Ervine"]Why tell that to Linda Irvine? She's at least trying to do something positive between the communities. Just as you stereotype Antrim people in another post. That identity politics is working brilliantly in your part of the world isn't it?"]Carson did not play hurling! He was a member of the Trinity Hurley club that played a game that was basically what is now field hockey

Like it or not, the Ulster unionists/protestants are ethnically British, That is not an argument against national unity but the notion that they are all living under a delusion is rather naive.

The Shinners of 1970s actually tacitly recognised this by offering regional autonomy in Éire Nua. As influenced by Desmond Fennell.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 25/07/2023 18:48:48    2496917

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Can anyone here recommend a good documentary on the life of GAA clubs in Northern Ireland through the last centenary? Preferably something to tell the story of the average club and the average club payer pre-troubles and during the conflict?

Was there ever anything like that put together on the Down team of the 60's?

Thanks in advance

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 332 - 14/08/2023 09:26:45    2500399

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Replying To Cbar:  "Can anyone here recommend a good documentary on the life of GAA clubs in Northern Ireland through the last centenary? Preferably something to tell the story of the average club and the average club payer pre-troubles and during the conflict?

Was there ever anything like that put together on the Down team of the 60's?

Thanks in advance"
Oisin Mc Conville was involved in one but mostly centred around Cross. Think it was True North but might be wrong.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2150 - 14/08/2023 11:43:42    2500440

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Replying To Cbar:  "Can anyone here recommend a good documentary on the life of GAA clubs in Northern Ireland through the last centenary? Preferably something to tell the story of the average club and the average club payer pre-troubles and during the conflict?

Was there ever anything like that put together on the Down team of the 60's?

Thanks in advance"
True North, Field Of Dreams. Crossmaglen.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2150 - 14/08/2023 11:57:14    2500443

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Replying To Saynothing:  "True North, Field Of Dreams. Crossmaglen."
Yeah, that was absolutely excellent.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 14/08/2023 13:37:35    2500474

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Thanks Saynothing and Cavanman. I'll have a look at it. If you think of anything else let me know.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 332 - 16/08/2023 10:57:52    2500740

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Another Loyalist security alert today at the East Belfast pitches in Castlereagh. Shameful but unsurprising.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9785 - 05/09/2023 12:08:30    2503123

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When you say pitches in East Belfast - are these pitches and clubs set up by the people Unionist community? (forgive my ignorance)

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 332 - 06/09/2023 14:44:16    2503310

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Replying To Cbar:  "When you say pitches in East Belfast - are these pitches and clubs set up by the people Unionist community? (forgive my ignorance)"
They're meant to be shared pitches with all sports played at them but have been targeted by Loyalist paramilitary thugs since East Belfast GAA started to play there. If the PSNI really wanted to stop it they could but the political will to do so isn't there. Most Loyalist paramilitaries still work for all the various branches of the British Securocrat Establishment.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9785 - 06/09/2023 22:57:57    2503379

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Replying To Cbar:  "When you say pitches in East Belfast - are these pitches and clubs set up by the people Unionist community? (forgive my ignorance)"
It doesn't mater who owns them! UVF and UDA have no business threatening anyone.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3127 - 07/09/2023 13:11:40    2503420

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This always saddens me when I hear this kind of thing. Here's a genuine effort to get all communities involved together and as always there's an element who want to stay in the dark old days. What kind of future do they envisage for their own children is anybody's guess but it's certainly not a positive one.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2085 - 07/09/2023 13:45:45    2503425

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