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Between £10.50 and £13.50 for a cleaner so for a 39hr week before tax it can be as low as £410 before tax. I'm lucky enough to be on the higher bracket but still talking about £460 after tax and add to that the fact that alot of cleaners are agency so there is no job security and I've been let go and pulled back more than once during covid already
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 12/07/2020 13:13:06 2283852 Link 1 |
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The amount of people on minimum wage, temporary contracts in this country is a national shame, especially in highly profitable companies. The rich will have all the money for a finish up with all the younger people living paycheck to paycheck( the working poor). OpenStand (Limerick) - Posts: 669 - 14/07/2020 11:13:25 2284015 Link 0 |
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A lot of people seem to have little or no understanding of what its like for the non 9 to 5 in Ireland I remember years back the dole office clerk couldnt get her head round the fact that I didnt have a set weekly wage or hours in hospitality and the forms ll wanted this set income info too
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2020 12:43:47 2284028 Link 0 |
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if everyone said no to minimum wage and crap contracts, maybe they'd improve. But there's obviously enough people out there that think it's good enough, so let them be. Still shouldn't be free in..if you include some, you have to include all people that worked during covid, hospital stall, care home staff, all medical personal, food retail staff, farmers, vets, agri contractors, agri store staff, government staff....there'd be queues out the gates. wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1678 - 14/07/2020 12:48:59 2284029 Link 1 |
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Just say no to a job. God why didn't we think of that before it's so easy now that you mention it
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2020 13:54:06 2284036 Link 1 |
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Or maybe the barstaff should just pester the government for handouts and subsidies like the farmers do Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2020 13:57:20 2284037 Link 1 |
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sure didnt they get 350 a week for 3 months. what has bar staff got to do with free entry into games, they're well off being essential workers
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1678 - 14/07/2020 15:46:06 2284049 Link 1 |
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I don't think he meant it flippantly. Its all a grand notion that if everyone refused to do the jobs that are paid minimum wage then the employers would eventually have to put up the wages - nothing is that simple. I will not try and even debate the merits of one model versus the other but the one thing that has made is the legal minimum wage despite all the dire warnings about it when introduced - the question is what level should it be at. Perhaps not for a GAA forum.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1800 - 14/07/2020 16:36:30 2284054 Link 0 |
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The shop workers are on minimum and are essential so should they all strike tomorrow and end up getting sacked in a recession
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2020 17:20:30 2284065 Link 0 |
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Aldi are on 14 odd euro an hour to put bread on a shelf..hardly minimum. And if they all got sacked, every shop would go out of business so doubt that'd happen
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1678 - 14/07/2020 18:11:59 2284070 Link 1 |
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Ask the workers in your local Centra or petrol station next time your in
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2020 19:08:28 2284078 Link 0 |
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And its not €14 odd for regular staff its €12.30 https://www.aldi.ie/living-wage Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 14/07/2020 21:24:38 2284083 Link 0 |
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Hardly minimum...a quick scan of jobs.ie and there's plenty of other jobs if they're not happy. Bet if you ask any shop and they'll tell you they are always over subscribed with applications for any available position so mustn't be all the doom and gloom you make it out to be
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1678 - 15/07/2020 08:43:35 2284099 Link 0 |
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A bit more to it than putting bread on a shelf. If they're getting €14 an hour it's hardly great money. Stacking shelves, running the till, dealing with stupid customers like myself trying to buy beer at 11 on a Sunday morning! Dealing with very irate customers too. Like a lot of jobs, looks easy until you have to try it.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 15/07/2020 09:38:24 2284104 Link 7 |
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It's not doom and gloom but they deserve more respect than the utter lies and distain you have for them. And jobs.ie is not full of jobs it has about 10/20 per county in highly specialised areas Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 15/07/2020 10:44:01 2284119 Link 0 |
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Mad suggestion. Some healthcare workers had a busy few months but the majority did not. Most hospitals were exceptionally quieter than ever and very few healthcare workers (with the exception of a few hospitals) were involved in treating covid patients at any stage. Most of the testing was done outside of HSE premises and very few patients were hospitalised, when they were hospitalised they were in an isolated wing when most staff were not allowed to enter. McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 15/07/2020 13:32:34 2284135 Link 1 |
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That is correct
lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 15/07/2020 22:21:23 2284175 Link 0 |
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There's a lot more to the HSE and private health services than hospitals. GPs and their staff are frontline. Most carehomes had positive COVID tests and COVID deaths and plod through rotas when staff were out isolating after positive tests. They have others support staff, cleaners, canteen staff, security etc also in the frontline in an environment with a high risk of catching COVID. And then there's office staff who could work from home. They got the army to go into some carehomes to do COVID testing and train some staff how to do the tests. They were also putting themselves in the frontline. The HSE staff can flash the badge and go to the top of the queue for shops, but I don't think they should get in free to games. I'm sure they would appreciate that as a lovely gesture but having themselves, families, friends and colleagues healthy and happy is their concern and blessing.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 16/07/2020 00:06:07 2284178 Link 7 |
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Vast majority of GPs saw a dramatic reduction in patient contact time, vast majority of HSE workers never came into contact with any covid patients. I am not for a second disputing that HSE workers provide an essential service to society and I'm all for improved pay and conditions but the notion that anyone employed by the HSE should get free entry is ill thought out nonsense. The exact same can be said for your idea that anyone with a HSE badge should be allowed jump the que in shops or get preferential treatment of any kind.
McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 16/07/2020 14:27:19 2284216 Link 2 |
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It's not my idea, it's a fact that HSE staff can jump the Q for shops if they wish, a lot of them don't. My wife is a HSE carer. Herself and 36 of her colleagues tested positive and 4 residents died from COVID. Thankfully she's grand now. Your putting emphasis there on HSE staff that come in contact with patients. What about those that schedule appointments, enforce cleanliness and social distancing protocols, health are workers not employed by the HSE? It's a lot more than HSE staff, including those that stayed at home to help contain the virus, that deserve thanks. I honestly think there's some HSE staff who are nearly embarrassed by some preferential treatment or shop discounts they are offered. Though I can see why businesses can advertise it hoping for some goodwill from customers.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 16/07/2020 16:35:27 2284234 Link 4 |