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Replying To royaldunne:  "Heard Dublin were. But then again that is probably just more mud to sling at them. I sincerely hope it's not true."
and wicklow @ 6am so they not noticed

Stmunnsriver (Wexford) - Posts: 2842 - 07/07/2020 11:46:34    2283307

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "100 %, kerry is crawling with tourists from all over including USA, as I'm sure is Mayo and Cork and other costal counties.

Give it 3-4 weeks and we'll all be locked down again."
Plenty of NI and English reg cars in the west past 2 weeks

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 07/07/2020 13:34:13    2283323

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Plenty of NI and English reg cars in the west past 2 weeks"
Ya I seen that, supposedly the Americans are flying into UK heading to northern Ireland and driving down south.

I appreciate they're custom as a tourist county but couldn't they holiday at home for 1 year.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/07/2020 14:10:15    2283338

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Ya I seen that, supposedly the Americans are flying into UK heading to northern Ireland and driving down south.

I appreciate they're custom as a tourist county but couldn't they holiday at home for 1 year."
You're talking about a country that actually elected Donald Trump remember.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 07/07/2020 14:44:49    2283345

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jasus there's a lot of optimsim on here boy's, whatever will ye do when the Bubonic Plague comes. Ireland once the land of Saints and Scholars, now the land of Doom and Gloom, waiting for the second wave. What a way to live.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 07/07/2020 16:10:58    2283356

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "You're talking about a country that actually elected Donald Trump remember."
True .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 07/07/2020 16:24:20    2283360

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Replying To cluichethar:  "jasus there's a lot of optimsim on here boy's, whatever will ye do when the Bubonic Plague comes. Ireland once the land of Saints and Scholars, now the land of Doom and Gloom, waiting for the second wave. What a way to live."
You really need to detach yourself from all the negativity when it comes to this kind of thing tho.

We've handled Covid (so far) as well as just about any comparable country in the world, if not better.

If everything was as doom and gloom as so many want to constantly remind us, then why are we rated the 3rd best country in the world to live in by the UN?

We are continuously ranked in the top 10 for the following: education, safety, crime, GDP (albeit skewed by FDI), life expectancy. . .

Of course things could be better, namely the public health service, but in this instance the dept of health has actually played a blinder to date.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 07/07/2020 16:32:47    2283363

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "You're talking about a country that actually elected Donald Trump remember."
oh you mean they should have elected hillary clinton? dear oh dear

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 07/07/2020 17:20:00    2283375

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Replying To cavanman47:  "You really need to detach yourself from all the negativity when it comes to this kind of thing tho.

We've handled Covid (so far) as well as just about any comparable country in the world, if not better.

If everything was as doom and gloom as so many want to constantly remind us, then why are we rated the 3rd best country in the world to live in by the UN?

We are continuously ranked in the top 10 for the following: education, safety, crime, GDP (albeit skewed by FDI), life expectancy. . .

Of course things could be better, namely the public health service, but in this instance the dept of health has actually played a blinder to date."
That is obviously your opinion. We started very poorly and were not the best, or anywhere near it when it came to nursing homes. You judge a society on how it deals with the young and old. Now we are spending over 2.5 billion on a building -a hospital which is over 3 times the cost of what it should be in a location where access and exit is exceptionally poor. Now you obviously think that is money well spent-fair enough. We gave away significant amount of our assets to vulture funds at 20-30% of value and put people out of their homes and, you think we did well-enough said. What is you idea of managing badly?

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 07/07/2020 18:22:29    2283382

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Replying To lilypad:  "oh you mean they should have elected hillary clinton? dear oh dear"
It was a poor field but come on at least Clinton would have admitted Covid is bad and not tried to get people out for rallys in a pandemic. Also we woundnt have to hear about his childish crying on twitter

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 07/07/2020 18:29:16    2283383

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Replying To lilypad:  "oh you mean they should have elected hillary clinton? dear oh dear"
I'm not saying who they should have elected. America has a whole host of problems that are unfortunately beyond the remit of an average Joe looking in from the outside such as myself to resolve. I do however think their biggest problem is that pop culture has become more important and more influential than the many great and noble institutions and ideals that the nation was founded upon.

That has led them to a situation where an entitled, narcissistic sociopath has been at the wheel for 4 years. Over the weekend we've even seen a possibly even more egotistical rapper throw his hat in the ring. Now, I think that this is (hopefully) just another instance of Kanye's unashamed self promotion, and realistically he has left it too late to make an official run for office. But then again, I was probably thinking along the same lines back in 2016.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 08/07/2020 09:10:40    2283430

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ah lads will ye stop posting political stuff on this forum. stick to the same general ballpark of the topic,,,,,,,,,,,or at least stick to gaa stuff

but going on about the cost of the hospital etc important topics no doubt but ...........

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 08/07/2020 14:40:57    2283491

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Replying To Mayonman:  "ah lads will ye stop posting political stuff on this forum. stick to the same general ballpark of the topic,,,,,,,,,,,or at least stick to gaa stuff

but going on about the cost of the hospital etc important topics no doubt but ..........."
Spot on and something I know I need to rein in, mea culpa.

Back to the topic at hand. Surely some middle ground could be found? I totally agree with the clubs having their county men for the duration of their championship run. But at the end of the day only two teams can make the final. Surely the county lads whose clubs have exited should be allowed to train with the county? Or is the fear there that if they allow that some county managers will inevitably take advantage of it?

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 08/07/2020 15:38:17    2283508

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "I'm not saying who they should have elected. America has a whole host of problems that are unfortunately beyond the remit of an average Joe looking in from the outside such as myself to resolve. I do however think their biggest problem is that pop culture has become more important and more influential than the many great and noble institutions and ideals that the nation was founded upon.

That has led them to a situation where an entitled, narcissistic sociopath has been at the wheel for 4 years. Over the weekend we've even seen a possibly even more egotistical rapper throw his hat in the ring. Now, I think that this is (hopefully) just another instance of Kanye's unashamed self promotion, and realistically he has left it too late to make an official run for office. But then again, I was probably thinking along the same lines back in 2016."
The rapper is running to take votes from Trumps rivals.

lilypad (Kildare) - Posts: 1363 - 08/07/2020 16:36:21    2283510

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Spot on and something I know I need to rein in, mea culpa.

Back to the topic at hand. Surely some middle ground could be found? I totally agree with the clubs having their county men for the duration of their championship run. But at the end of the day only two teams can make the final. Surely the county lads whose clubs have exited should be allowed to train with the county? Or is the fear there that if they allow that some county managers will inevitably take advantage of it?"
My question is and I have asked before, is do club players care all that much that their county lads are missing - perhaps the week before the first game but before that really? In most counties the championship starts the week or the following week after the last game the county has played - the club players are never there up to that week anyway. The way all championships are being run this year I would say they will be with the club for the duration of however long they are in it. As a once club player myself, if the boys on the county team couldn't train so be it, we would always welcome them back for the games, nothing new about it, its been going on forever. Why did the GAA think that this rule was needed when every other year the clubs train without their county players before the championship. Putting the clubs first is rubbish, my view is the club v county issue has never been about when they train but about when the games are played but all of a sudden everyone is jumping on the bandwagon about training.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 08/07/2020 17:41:59    2283515

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Events in Wexford showing what's going on & the blind eye being turned by the GAA, really apparent now why the GPA were so insistent on county players being covered by insurance before September, a stench from their claims around why they wanted this done. As for monitoring by the GAA, we all know what a joke that is & the President & DG made that known with their first public statement, telling people to report incidents but no action would be taken.
No doubt all those involved will be instructed on what to say now.
The insurance company might have a different view on matters if they become involved. Eventually insurance companies won't cover GAA if rules aren't enforced or facts are covered over.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 09/07/2020 13:00:17    2283573

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Bigger picture is the GAA, arent to bothered about counties training in my opinion, yeah they will stick to government advice and be seen to prioritise the club game. But the initial bit about guidelines, Counties were always going to train.

Secondly now, leaving it up to clubs to report their county boards - in reality that is never going to happen when said club will be looking to their county boards for funds, grants, tickets etc, etc. Every county will be training in my opinion in some form or another and will be managing their players club loads, id be surprised if they weren't.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 09/07/2020 13:28:21    2283578

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How do you actually stop IC training. At the end of the day it's a bunch of people meeting in a fieldin a free country so unless the GAA start sending out G-men and expelling all the top players from the association there's not much can be done.

How many players is the ok amount before it becomes training. If I see Keily or Lohan or whoever out for a jog with some players is that counted as training

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 09/07/2020 14:40:35    2283587

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Bigger picture is the GAA, arent to bothered about counties training in my opinion, yeah they will stick to government advice and be seen to prioritise the club game. But the initial bit about guidelines, Counties were always going to train.

Secondly now, leaving it up to clubs to report their county boards - in reality that is never going to happen when said club will be looking to their county boards for funds, grants, tickets etc, etc. Every county will be training in my opinion in some form or another and will be managing their players club loads, id be surprised if they weren't."
That's the thing, I don't hear club players making noises about it anyway, it's only the press saying anything about it. Yet another bad decision made by HQ.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 09/07/2020 15:46:06    2283590

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Bigger picture is the GAA, arent to bothered about counties training in my opinion, yeah they will stick to government advice and be seen to prioritise the club game. But the initial bit about guidelines, Counties were always going to train.

Secondly now, leaving it up to clubs to report their county boards - in reality that is never going to happen when said club will be looking to their county boards for funds, grants, tickets etc, etc. Every county will be training in my opinion in some form or another and will be managing their players club loads, id be surprised if they weren't."
I wouldn't be too sure about clubs not reporting Inter-County training in Dublin, we are not talking about an ad hoc group of lads meeting up or going for a run. We are talking about organised training sessions - they won't happen for lots of reasons not least you won't be playing for your club and you are unisured.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 09/07/2020 16:11:29    2283591

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