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Replying To fillzezogs:  "Is it not poor form from co board to not allow them to stream their own games if they clash with theirs? Why can't they?? Is it because co board want the revenue? Plus is there any sanction if they do it?! Doubtful if there is as this is a new venture in many respects so I'm sure the legislation/rules couldn't be there yet!!"
County board must have changed their tune because they've granted Aidans permission to stream their game with Kilbride today even though it's at the same time as the Boyle game. Think they've also granted creggs permission for their game against faithleachs

jimmy11 (Roscommon) - Posts: 20 - 15/08/2020 11:52:08    2287637

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Replying To jimmy11:  "County board must have changed their tune because they've granted Aidans permission to stream their game with Kilbride today even though it's at the same time as the Boyle game. Think they've also granted creggs permission for their game against faithleachs"
I mean the co board don't want clubs streaming games that they themselves are showing. I know there is no issue streaming different games but why the issue if the club want to stream their own game. For example if Boyle want to stream their game they can't?? Is that true and if so why not?? Is it revenue related?!?! Why do they even have to get permission?? Co board should not have that authority in my opinion.

fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 15/08/2020 12:29:55    2287643

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Replying To jimmy11:  "County board must have changed their tune because they've granted Aidans permission to stream their game with Kilbride today even though it's at the same time as the Boyle game. Think they've also granted creggs permission for their game against faithleachs"
Yes a welcomed change of policy.

The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4125 - 15/08/2020 14:38:00    2287663

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Replying To The_analyser:  "Yes a welcomed change of policy."
I mean the co board don't want clubs streaming games that they themselves are showing. I know there is no issue streaming different games but why the issue if the club want to stream their own game. For example if Boyle want to stream their game they can't?? Is that true and if so why not?? Is it revenue related?!?! Why do they even have to get permission?? Co board should not have that authority in my opinion.

fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 15/08/2020 15:10:30    2287665

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Boyle and Western gaels seem to be the form teams in the senior championship.The knockout stages will be interesting.Padraig Pearses will be disappointed with their form in the group stages.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2532 - 17/08/2020 15:46:37    2287916

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Senior
Seeded Teams
St Brigids
Western Gaels
Roscommon Gaels
Boyle

Unseeded Teams
Clann
St Croans
Pearses
Elphin/Glaveys

Relegation
Tulsk vs Strokestown/Fuerty

Intermediate
Seeded Teams
Oran
Kilmore
Faithleachs
Dominics

Unseeded Teams
Eire Og
Creggs
Shannon Gaels
St Aidans/Ballinameen

Relegation
Castlerea/Kilbride vs St Barrys

Still one more round of Junior fixtures to go. Ros Gaels B looking good in Group A with 3 wins from 3. Brigids B and Michaels both 2 from 2 in Group B so they will be fighting it out for top spot in the last group game. In Group C, there was a big shock as Pearses B beat one of the favourites Kilglass by 10 points while Clann B hammered Elphin B.

On another point, I feel that the process of picking one of the quarter finalists by choosing a name out of a hat is a bit silly. Surely, of the 3 teams who finished 3rd, the team with the best record is the 7th team in the quarter final and the other two play each other for the last spot? Same with relegation. Strokestown and Fuerty both finished on 0 points while Tulsk were a kick of the ball away against Boyle from topping that group. Yet Strokestown and Fuerty both have 2 opportunities to stay up while Tulsk only have the one.

Ros13 (Roscommon) - Posts: 120 - 17/08/2020 16:41:28    2287930

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Fod has Western Gaels playing a low risk, possession driven Kind of ball game.
As in you don't shoot unless your a designated shooter, u hold onto possession until you can feed 1 of the creggs moran and the likes to have a pop.
It was a weakish group but they can only beat what is put out against them and it was probably the best the ros Gaels played against WG in the 3 matches I saw and they had no answer to the westies whatsoever and deserved a bigger beating than they got so they definitely have a chance of getting further with a favourible draw that however may be the problem as possibly they have a chance of getting pearses or clann the best draw they can hope for is winner of glaveys/Elphin and that would be no routine victory either.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1812 - 17/08/2020 17:03:23    2287934

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Boyle, Western Gaels certainly the form teams during the group stages but the intensity in games will rise up now with knock out football.

Pearses last year lost by 1 point in their final group game against a side battling relegation will history repeat itself for the knock out stages? Their neighbours Clann and Brigids will be pleased with the progress they have made from last year.

Glaveys v Elphin play off a hard game to call this weekend both smarting from heavy losses.

Few would have predicted the intermediate play off to be Aidans v Ballinameen but a great chance for one of those sides to reach the last 8. That match is on Wednesday due to duel players in action this weekend. Aidans should stream the game, excellent coverage thus far they have given including Kevin Egan on the commentary.


Relegation is heating up also. Many will say Strokestown are too good to go down but the same was said about Faithleachs last year. Tulsk are coming into decent form and unless Fuerty can get Kilroy back on form they look most likely to be relegated.

Intermediate the main runners for promotion seem to be Dominics, Oran and Faithleachs. Relegation a tale of how far both Kilbride, Castlerea has fallen but Barrys look most likely to fall to Junior A. As for junior Clann and Brigids B Teams will be there or thereabouts but maybe a first team might seek that county title again St Michael's perhaps?

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 17/08/2020 17:38:17    2287944

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Replying To Ros13:  "Senior
Seeded Teams
St Brigids
Western Gaels
Roscommon Gaels
Boyle

Unseeded Teams
Clann
St Croans
Pearses
Elphin/Glaveys

Relegation
Tulsk vs Strokestown/Fuerty

Intermediate
Seeded Teams
Oran
Kilmore
Faithleachs
Dominics

Unseeded Teams
Eire Og
Creggs
Shannon Gaels
St Aidans/Ballinameen

Relegation
Castlerea/Kilbride vs St Barrys

Still one more round of Junior fixtures to go. Ros Gaels B looking good in Group A with 3 wins from 3. Brigids B and Michaels both 2 from 2 in Group B so they will be fighting it out for top spot in the last group game. In Group C, there was a big shock as Pearses B beat one of the favourites Kilglass by 10 points while Clann B hammered Elphin B.

On another point, I feel that the process of picking one of the quarter finalists by choosing a name out of a hat is a bit silly. Surely, of the 3 teams who finished 3rd, the team with the best record is the 7th team in the quarter final and the other two play each other for the last spot? Same with relegation. Strokestown and Fuerty both finished on 0 points while Tulsk were a kick of the ball away against Boyle from topping that group. Yet Strokestown and Fuerty both have 2 opportunities to stay up while Tulsk only have the one."
Strokestown were a kick of the ball away from beating Elphin.. 2 kicks of the ball from beating Bridgets. Fuerty were a kick of the ball from beating Croans. You're point is correct and flawed in the same go.

Ros2020 (Roscommon) - Posts: 11 - 17/08/2020 18:15:20    2287948

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Fod has Western Gaels playing a low risk, possession driven Kind of ball game.
As in you don't shoot unless your a designated shooter, u hold onto possession until you can feed 1 of the creggs moran and the likes to have a pop.
It was a weakish group but they can only beat what is put out against them and it was probably the best the ros Gaels played against WG in the 3 matches I saw and they had no answer to the westies whatsoever and deserved a bigger beating than they got so they definitely have a chance of getting further with a favourible draw that however may be the problem as possibly they have a chance of getting pearses or clann the best draw they can hope for is winner of glaveys/Elphin and that would be no routine victory either."
WG has 11 different scorers on Sunday, off the top of my head, including a goal from a corner back. But I wouldn't go judging anything from that game as Croans offered very little and game was over by first water break. Gaels are certainly a lot more structured and disciplined this year but will face a huge step up in the next game. The draw hasn't done them any favors but I don't think they will fear anyone.

Douglas_44 (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 18/08/2020 00:41:52    2288002

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Replying To Ros13:  "Senior
Seeded Teams
St Brigids
Western Gaels
Roscommon Gaels
Boyle

Unseeded Teams
Clann
St Croans
Pearses
Elphin/Glaveys

Relegation
Tulsk vs Strokestown/Fuerty

Intermediate
Seeded Teams
Oran
Kilmore
Faithleachs
Dominics

Unseeded Teams
Eire Og
Creggs
Shannon Gaels
St Aidans/Ballinameen

Relegation
Castlerea/Kilbride vs St Barrys

Still one more round of Junior fixtures to go. Ros Gaels B looking good in Group A with 3 wins from 3. Brigids B and Michaels both 2 from 2 in Group B so they will be fighting it out for top spot in the last group game. In Group C, there was a big shock as Pearses B beat one of the favourites Kilglass by 10 points while Clann B hammered Elphin B.

On another point, I feel that the process of picking one of the quarter finalists by choosing a name out of a hat is a bit silly. Surely, of the 3 teams who finished 3rd, the team with the best record is the 7th team in the quarter final and the other two play each other for the last spot? Same with relegation. Strokestown and Fuerty both finished on 0 points while Tulsk were a kick of the ball away against Boyle from topping that group. Yet Strokestown and Fuerty both have 2 opportunities to stay up while Tulsk only have the one."
Fully agree, being saying this since this new insane structure was introduced.. Its absolute madness a team can make a quarter final from being lucky enough to get drawn from a hat... this system certainly did not benefit Faithleachs last season as they only had one shot at staying up & had to deal with suspensions (granted it went to a replay).. surely there is a better more straight forward format available, the 4 groups of 3 was better than this... don't even see the point of seeded teams, they have no advantage, i.e home venue quarter finals...

ross4sam11 (Roscommon) - Posts: 96 - 18/08/2020 01:13:02    2288003

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I can see the advantage with seeded teams in that you get a much easier quarter final. This is a major advantage. Lets take the case of Clann. Clann finished second despite picking up 5 points, the same number of points as Brigids who are seeded but because Brigids had a better scoring difference they were seeded. Now Clann will be faced with a quarter final tie against Western Gaels, Roscommon Gaels or Boyle instead of a quarter final against Pearses, Elphin/Glaveys or Croans. I think the advantage of being seeded is clear in this casing example but from this same example what I find strange is why was there a need for a draw for the 4th seeded team when in fact Clann had 5 points, more points than any other of the second placed team , those 5 points coming from a group that included Clann, Brigids and Strokestown. There should have been no draw and the 4th seeded team should have gone to Clann, of course in the event of teams finishing on equal points then I see the logic in a draw. Ridiculous rule as it stands in my opinion. I really hope a motion is place to change this going forward, if a team gets 5 points and remain undefeated in the group stages, they deserve to be seeded.

rossno1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 294 - 18/08/2020 12:58:53    2288044

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Tight enough possibly that the club chsps will be finished off. Looking like all games behind closed doors now. Will this include club officials, media and journalists. Seems sports events are the easy target for the mistakes of others.

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1159 - 18/08/2020 16:59:34    2288098

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Replying To moros:  "Tight enough possibly that the club chsps will be finished off. Looking like all games behind closed doors now. Will this include club officials, media and journalists. Seems sports events are the easy target for the mistakes of others."
Totally agree but I do believe the club championship will be finished but possibly behind closed doors. There is a clear difference between a controlled outgoing gathering like a GAA match where the limit should remain at 200 and a non controlled outdoor gathering.

rossno1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 294 - 18/08/2020 18:05:02    2288105

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A joke of decision when the majority of cases are from indoor clusters. No case has tracked back to a GAA match in the last number of weeks. Up to county boards if they want to finish championships without supporters now.

Final nail in the coffin for the inter County season unfortunately

ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 18/08/2020 18:18:11    2288107

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GAA is the easy target for that shambles of a leadership... Vast majority of all these new cases have nothing to do with either GAA or bars/restaurants but its easy cos neither will fight back and when they do they are given the most ludicrous of explanations.... a crowd of chimps would give more clarification than what has somehow become the Irish government

ross4sam11 (Roscommon) - Posts: 96 - 18/08/2020 19:09:14    2288114

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Replying To ispeakwisdom:  "A joke of decision when the majority of cases are from indoor clusters. No case has tracked back to a GAA match in the last number of weeks. Up to county boards if they want to finish championships without supporters now.

Final nail in the coffin for the inter County season unfortunately"
Agree 100%. A teacher can teach a class full of kids but can't go to a football game????? Ludicrous decision.

fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 18/08/2020 22:28:22    2288155

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Replying To fillzezogs:  "Agree 100%. A teacher can teach a class full of kids but can't go to a football game????? Ludicrous decision."
Makes very little sense but governments like to think they are doing something. Sports fans paying the price for the foolish behaviour of others

Rossieforever (Roscommon) - Posts: 105 - 18/08/2020 23:15:46    2288171

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Replying To Rossieforever:  "Makes very little sense but governments like to think they are doing something. Sports fans paying the price for the foolish behaviour of others"
Yes and I see Westmeath chairman wants to pause championship until this passes. What do ye think of that idea? I think it's unfair in teams and players etc. 15 allowed to train you know. How do u decide who trains??? Rest of them being told ye are not good enough basically.

fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 19/08/2020 20:04:51    2288315

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Senior Championship Q-Finals

A - Boyle V St Croans
B - St Brigids V Michael Glaveys
C - W Gaels V Clann Na nGael
D - Ros Gaels V Padraig Pearses

Semi Final
Winner game D V Winner game C
Winner game A V Winner game B

Intermediate Championship Q-Finals

A - Kilmore V St Aidans
B - St Faithleachs V Shannon Gaels
C - Oran V Creggs
D - St Dominics V Eire Og

Semi Finals
Winner Game A V Winner Game C
Winner Game B V Winner Game D

Ros13 (Roscommon) - Posts: 120 - 23/08/2020 18:24:35    2288779

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