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Replying To The_analyser: "A close competitive senior championship we have right now. For example Brigids v Clann drew, Clann beat Western Gaels narrowly and yesterday Pearses only just beat Clann. The final should be a tight tense match also. Very competitive in the relegated battle also with very little separating Strokestown, Tulsk and Fuerty. Pearses v Clann clearly the best match of the weekend. Clann won't be happy with the manner they lost that game, only 1-4 they managed from play and 1-1 of that came from Donie Shine who only played 20 minutes, Pearses in comparison managed to score 1-8 from play and that was with their two best forwards held scoreless from play. Brigids had their tactics and game plan spot on yesterday while Boyle was the opposite and really need to seek for a better quality manager before time passes bye for their group of players. E Nolan, Sugrue, Derwin, Domican both Sheehys, R Fallon and B Carroll were impressive for the winners the latter two are still only 17, hugely talented young footballers. Faithleachs the big underachievers in the Intermediate championships. When it came to the crunch they relied too much on the Murtagh brothers and needed a better team effort. They got what they deserved for their first half performance alone. Dominics are making good progress they have a nice blend of youth and experience but I feel they will need Keith Doyle fit for the final, Oran looked best placed to win this county title but finals have been very troublesome for them. In Junior A it's looking more likely that one of the B teams will win that county title and I'd prefer if that wasn't the case. One final note it was good to see a number of players returning from serious injuries Conor Devaney, Ultan Harney, Ronan Daly, Cathal Heneghan, Sean Mullooly etc and perform so well." Yes I'd agree with what you said mainly. However i Don't think that saying Boyle need a better quality manager was necessary. I'm sure hes hurting too and it's always easy to blame the manager. We've seen it in all areas, county teams, soccer teams etc. Usually the team with better players win the games, cream rises to the top. But a manager is the easy one to blame and gets the flak. These people are human too, have families that I'm sure would not like to read what was written. I know people can say oh I was talking to some players and they told me this and that etc. My advice to those players is make an investment. It's an investment that will help them in the long run and pay itself back over time. I'd advise them to invest in a mirror!!! fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 08/09/2020 06:36:47 2291078 Link
fillzezogs, let me put it this way Basil Mannion a great servant for Brigids over the the years and I might add a top bloke on and off the field but would Brigids ever appoint him as their senior manager? A more experienced manager is what Boyle require, semi final spots if as far as this current management will take Boyle. Pearses did that by bringing in Pat Flanagan and have since reaped rewards. Before he was arrived many also had the opinion that Pearses players should have looked in the mirror. The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4125 - 08/09/2020 16:32:51 2291158 Link
I see or great government whom make up rules as they go along have conveniently set the reopening date for public house for the day after a lot of county finals are played. If people are allowed indoors to drink on September 21st then supporters should be allowed to attend matches outdoors right now but it seems like we'll have to watch live streams of county finals now instead of attending. ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 08/09/2020 16:54:22 2291166 Link
I think the very expensive experiment for Clann bringing up Liam Kearns hasn't paid off and they have not improved on previous years. In fact they looked very poorly coached this year, and at the weekend kicking in long aimless balls was the main tactic which would be more suited to an u10 team rather than a senior club team.Having Fergal Lennon and Ultan Harney fit this year was a big plus but they are not on the level they were at in 2018 and would be better spending that money elsewhere. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1219 - 08/09/2020 20:03:32 2291194 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "I think the very expensive experiment for Clann bringing up Liam Kearns hasn't paid off and they have not improved on previous years. In fact they looked very poorly coached this year, and at the weekend kicking in long aimless balls was the main tactic which would be more suited to an u10 team rather than a senior club team.Having Fergal Lennon and Ultan Harney fit this year was a big plus but they are not on the level they were at in 2018 and would be better spending that money elsewhere." Seemed to improve on last year when Clann were in a relegation battle? A fit Donie Shine for all of that game last Sunday and Clann could have been in the final now. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3724 - 08/09/2020 21:45:27 2291213 Link
Liam kearns to Boyle?? Surely all they need is an experienced manager to win the county final. No need to worry about all other good teams in the county or all the other good managers fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 08/09/2020 22:23:03 2291225 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "I think the very expensive experiment for Clann bringing up Liam Kearns hasn't paid off and they have not improved on previous years. In fact they looked very poorly coached this year, and at the weekend kicking in long aimless balls was the main tactic which would be more suited to an u10 team rather than a senior club team.Having Fergal Lennon and Ultan Harney fit this year was a big plus but they are not on the level they were at in 2018 and would be better spending that money elsewhere." Not improved on previous years? They were in a relegation play off last year! The lack of a league campaign would not have helped things at all. Ros13 (Roscommon) - Posts: 120 - 08/09/2020 22:49:08 2291228 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "Seemed to improve on last year when Clann were in a relegation battle? A fit Donie Shine for all of that game last Sunday and Clann could have been in the final now." A fit Fergal Lennon and Ultan Harney and they would not have been in a relegation last year. Anyway while they reached further this year the performances have been very little better this year they had a much easier group and a not as many injuries. sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1219 - 09/09/2020 08:04:25 2291241 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "A fit Fergal Lennon and Ultan Harney and they would not have been in a relegation last year. Anyway while they reached further this year the performances have been very little better this year they had a much easier group and a not as many injuries." If I recall right Clann were hammered by over 20 points in one of their group games last year and needed a replay to win the relegation play off. Wasn't a whole lot wrong with the performance last Sunday it was contest that could have gone either way and have to take in account it was against the defending champions who will likely go on to retain that title now. If Clann had lost that semi final early or in the manner that Boyle did against Brigids I could understand the questions and complaints towards management. Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3724 - 09/09/2020 14:47:49 2291312 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "If I recall right Clann were hammered by over 20 points in one of their group games last year and needed a replay to win the relegation play off. Wasn't a whole lot wrong with the performance last Sunday it was contest that could have gone either way and have to take in account it was against the defending champions who will likely go on to retain that title now. If Clann had lost that semi final early or in the manner that Boyle did against Brigids I could understand the questions and complaints towards management." Yes you are right on the Boyle defeat, Part of my posts are not getting through so it makes it sound like i am saying this years management team were complete failure i am not they were not far away, They were unlucky last year with injuries but won a County Title the year previous so its not as if they were as bad as they preformed last year missing 6 or 7 . I am questioning has the improvement made this year been value for money. The lack of a game plan(Bar drive it in long) the whole way through the championship this year was evident sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1219 - 09/09/2020 15:14:59 2291318 Link
Replying To Gaa_lover: "Seemed to improve on last year when Clann were in a relegation battle? A fit Donie Shine for all of that game last Sunday and Clann could have been in the final now." People seem to forget that Clan had so many injuries last year. IMO they should have won past Sunday. They missed too many chances and luck was not on their side once or twice. A lot of people put PP hot favourites for the final. I have my doubts. michael (Cork) - Posts: 381 - 10/09/2020 06:52:40 2291367 Link
looking at game too, thought Pearses missed more chances, think they are the best positioned Ros team to take on the likes of Corofin. roscommon1944 (Roscommon) - Posts: 275 - 10/09/2020 11:04:09 2291394 Link
One person seems to have an issue with Boyle management. Based on no facts. Just because it's under different posters doesn't mean it's a different person. Dunno why Boyle are so hyped up and why they are seen as to being held back by a manager. You could have jim Gavin there and they still wouldn't win it coz simply there are better teams in the county. fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 10/09/2020 11:08:07 2291396 Link
I think there's too much chat about the Boil manager here, focus has got to be on the players. You only have to look over the water at Leeds United and their bunch of no hoper players galvanised by an eccentric manager who led them to glory. They'll go straight back down again of course to the English intermediate level but for one year they could consider themselves in the big boys classroom. This had nothing to do with their manager not being good but with the will within themshels to be there. whatarewewatching (Roscommon) - Posts: 36 - 10/09/2020 14:06:12 2291419 Link
Replying To fillzezogs: "One person seems to have an issue with Boyle management. Based on no facts. Just because it's under different posters doesn't mean it's a different person. Dunno why Boyle are so hyped up and why they are seen as to being held back by a manager. You could have jim Gavin there and they still wouldn't win it coz simply there are better teams in the county." And Jim Gavin is available.He's not managing anyone at the moment so maybe the Boyle chairman should put a call in to Dublin airport. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2532 - 10/09/2020 20:56:06 2291471 Link
Replying To endgame: "And Jim Gavin is available.He's not managing anyone at the moment so maybe the Boyle chairman should put a call in to Dublin airport." He is yeah. Doubt he would travel though. And with Dublin under increasing possibility of a lockdown he may not be allowed to leave to city to engage in ore season training. Prob too expensive for Boyle though anyway. fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 10/09/2020 22:27:42 2291482 Link
Wishing Richard Hughes a speedy recovery after getting a serious injury in a recent match for Roscommon Gaels. The injury is expected to keep him out of action until 2021. He featured in all of Roscommons 5 NFL games last spring. Started against Laois, Clare and came off the bench against Fermanagh, Westmeath, Kildare. Collective inter county training is allowed from next week but HQ are still playing the waiting game to see if the government will deliver the funding to kick start the All-Ireland championships at the end of October. The two hurling club semi finals take centre stage this Sunday. Athleague v Four Roads 1pm Termane v Pádraig Pearses 4:30pm Good to see that the county board are streaming both games live. ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 11/09/2020 20:05:50 2291605 Link
Replying To sourmilk93: "Yes you are right on the Boyle defeat, Part of my posts are not getting through so it makes it sound like i am saying this years management team were complete failure i am not they were not far away, They were unlucky last year with injuries but won a County Title the year previous so its not as if they were as bad as they preformed last year missing 6 or 7 . I am questioning has the improvement made this year been value for money. The lack of a game plan(Bar drive it in long) the whole way through the championship this year was evident" I would say that last year they had players missing and injured but that should be no excuse for how poorly prepared the team were. This year the team looked much better prepared e.g. had their match ups correct in defense and were far fitter. I honestly believe if their manager had a full league to assess his squad he would have won a county title this year despite missing a few key defenders. Clann made significant improvement this year and some would argue should have won that game. Clann's strongest part of their team is their defense but from their up they need to make changes especially in their half forward line who are just too slow on the ball and their decision making is so bad. I have been watching some of those players for a few years now and it is time to try out some new ideas especially in that half forward line. Clann will be disappointed but they have made significant improvement and I would like to see LK back for a second spell as I think he would really revamp this team especially midfield and up front given a full season. rossno1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 294 - 11/09/2020 21:30:28 2291619 Link
Replying To ispeakwisdom: "Wishing Richard Hughes a speedy recovery after getting a serious injury in a recent match for Roscommon Gaels. The injury is expected to keep him out of action until 2021. He featured in all of Roscommons 5 NFL games last spring. Started against Laois, Clare and came off the bench against Fermanagh, Westmeath, Kildare. Collective inter county training is allowed from next week but HQ are still playing the waiting game to see if the government will deliver the funding to kick start the All-Ireland championships at the end of October. The two hurling club semi finals take centre stage this Sunday. Athleague v Four Roads 1pm Termane v Pádraig Pearses 4:30pm Good to see that the county board are streaming both games live." While collective county training is not permitted until next week from what I hear most counties are back. At least now most players are fit after the club season and very little need for county managers to be over doing the running. Will be interesting to see how it all pans out should it go ahead with the shorter preseason window before games start. Will Anthony call in any new players based off the championship just played? Fergal Lennon is one I would add who hasn't been involved last year due to injury. As said above best wishes to Richard Hughes smashing player. Will play for the county in the future again all going well sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1219 - 11/09/2020 21:58:26 2291623 Link
Replying To rossno1: "I would say that last year they had players missing and injured but that should be no excuse for how poorly prepared the team were. This year the team looked much better prepared e.g. had their match ups correct in defense and were far fitter. I honestly believe if their manager had a full league to assess his squad he would have won a county title this year despite missing a few key defenders. Clann made significant improvement this year and some would argue should have won that game. Clann's strongest part of their team is their defense but from their up they need to make changes especially in their half forward line who are just too slow on the ball and their decision making is so bad. I have been watching some of those players for a few years now and it is time to try out some new ideas especially in that half forward line. Clann will be disappointed but they have made significant improvement and I would like to see LK back for a second spell as I think he would really revamp this team especially midfield and up front given a full season." If Lk comes back for a second year they may well win a county title but Brigids are coming big time. It's scary how they could win a title this year while they are in transition and they have a massive future ahead of them. Pearses wont be far away either.and should clann win a title they wont go anywhere outside the county. Is winning a county title worth the expenses been paid to Kearns,Gilligan and the keeper coach from Tipperary? Maybe if you win it's worth the massive money but cant see them having a say outside the county. And they may not be far away from a title like 2018 with a cheaper management and invest they money in underage where they have been extremely poor in recent years compared with their neighbor's in kiltoom who run a serious operation and put the rest of the county to shame but Clann only club realistically who have similar resources sourmilk93 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1219 - 11/09/2020 23:49:49 2291644 Link