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Replying To endgame: "The standout midfielder in the championship has been Cathal Shine and he was excellent again last Sunday.He played minor in 2009 so must be in his late 20s.Don't know if there's any prospect of him coming into the Roscommon setup.You are absolutely right that Roscommon are not good enough at midfield to compete with the top teams.We have excellent forwards and the Defence has improved but we need more in the centre of the park." Cathal is hands down the best man in the county to win a long 50/50 kickout but at county level there is a lot more to midfield than catching a ball. He is in tremendous form but midfield at county level is a much different ball game
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Replying To Jonnycee: "I agree. The county team have found it hard to uncover a midfield pairing in the last few years. The managers have had to manufacture a game plan around this deficiency.
Where we might find new midfield talent might be a challenge. I have always thought highly of cathal shine but I think maybe too much time has passed him by for various reasons. Has shane cunnane gone off the radar completely? Can dara walsh play at midfield?" Cathal shine prob the standout player of the championship, delighted for him a real nice lad. County i dont think would be on cathals radar unfortunately but he is certainly better than anything we have at the moment.
No Darragh Walshe is a forward not a midfielder and we dont want to waste himby trying to convert him.
The young brigids midfielder Ruadhri Fallon is having some year and is hopefully a midfield prospect for roscommon
Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 793 - 04/09/2020 09:40:39
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Cathal Shine has already proved he is a county standard player from his years of playing county senior football. Tadgh O'Rourke would not live with cathal shine. Unfortunately i dont think we will see cathal in a roscommon jersey again
Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 793 - 04/09/2020 09:44:19
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Replying To roscommon1944: "interesting weekend ahead, game of weekend for me on TnaG on Sunday, Corofin struggled to put Pearses away last November, there defence is nearly all county players, believe reason Roscommon have not moved up the rankings and still around 8th in table due to not having a competitive midfield pairing. could we see a potential candidate for this position on show this weekend at any of the games!" Last year we were agurably the 6th best team in Championship, not rising higher midfield has been an issue but I think a bigger problem for us for one reason or another in recent years is not have our strongest team/panel available to us and strength and conditioning is still behind the top 5 teams.
After a few difficult years it's good to see Cathal Shine back in top form and it will be interesting to see how he fares against Pearses on Sunday.
I'm finding it hard to pick a winner in that game, the lottery of penalty shootout is a possibility. The fitness of Donie Shine will be key for Clann i think. The loss of Mark Richardson for Pearses shouldn't be underrated.
Looking forward to watch all 4 semi finals online hopefully supporters are allowed to attend the county finals.
ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 04/09/2020 13:46:51
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I agree it is very hard to call out the winner of the game between Clann and Pearses. I think Mark Richardson is a big loss to Pearses as is Donie Shine for Clann. I see the Clann manager saying he is missing 4 players with Donie. While he is missing 4 potential first team players some of the players who have come into the team have arguably added more to the team, a casing example is the young lad in midfield. I would be surprised if Donie Shine starts the game as I have heard he has barely trained in the last month due to injury. I believe we will only see Donie off the bench if at all. Pearses will be favourites and will be hard beat but Clann have something about them this year and I like the way they reacted when they went 4 points down, they did not panic and rattled off some great scores.
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Kilbride 8 points winners the Intermediate relegation final against St Barrys tonight.
The_analyser (Roscommon) - Posts: 4125 - 04/09/2020 22:33:14
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Could both games come down to whether or not a Donie is fit to play? Both games will be very close, I'm going to predict a Brigids and Clann final.
Ros13 (Roscommon) - Posts: 120 - 05/09/2020 00:04:07
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About the best news of the championship is the return to top form of Cathal Shine. What a loss he has been at CF for the county in the last 6 - 8 years ! Some of our lows may well have been avoided if Cathal had been available. Irelevant to whether he ever puts on the county jersey again, its just great to see him back enjoying his football.
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From a neutral point of view that was two disappointing intermediate semi finals hopefully the senior matches tomorrow are better.
Oran had it all too easy against Aidans whom seemed just happy to be in a semi final. Some fine goals by S Carty, J Gunning, E Kenny, K Whyte.
In the other semi final a mini shock with Dominics winning and it was a match they had won 1st half. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for Faithleachs. Hopefully the injury to Diarmuid Murtagh isn't a serious one. For a player of Stephen Ormsby experience he should have much better discipline. (Black carded the red carded)
Lastly I watched most of the 2nd half of the senior relegation final on you tube. Decent match between two well matched sides. Congratulations to Tulsk on their narrow victory. U20s Daniel Connolly, Tom O Rourke key to that victory.
ispeakwisdom (Roscommon) - Posts: 2487 - 05/09/2020 19:53:29
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Replying To ispeakwisdom: "Last year we were agurably the 6th best team in Championship, not rising higher midfield has been an issue but I think a bigger problem for us for one reason or another in recent years is not have our strongest team/panel available to us and strength and conditioning is still behind the top 5 teams.
After a few difficult years it's good to see Cathal Shine back in top form and it will be interesting to see how he fares against Pearses on Sunday.
I'm finding it hard to pick a winner in that game, the lottery of penalty shootout is a possibility. The fitness of Donie Shine will be key for Clann i think. The loss of Mark Richardson for Pearses shouldn't be underrated.
Looking forward to watch all 4 semi finals online hopefully supporters are allowed to attend the county finals." Supporters will not be allowed attend county finals. It's a shame but I know it won't happen. Minister frank Feighan has been very quiet on this issue. Surely he could speak up and say something.
fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 05/09/2020 21:39:25
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Replying To ispeakwisdom: "From a neutral point of view that was two disappointing intermediate semi finals hopefully the senior matches tomorrow are better.
Oran had it all too easy against Aidans whom seemed just happy to be in a semi final. Some fine goals by S Carty, J Gunning, E Kenny, K Whyte.
In the other semi final a mini shock with Dominics winning and it was a match they had won 1st half. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for Faithleachs. Hopefully the injury to Diarmuid Murtagh isn't a serious one. For a player of Stephen Ormsby experience he should have much better discipline. (Black carded the red carded)
Lastly I watched most of the 2nd half of the senior relegation final on you tube. Decent match between two well matched sides. Congratulations to Tulsk on their narrow victory. U20s Daniel Connolly, Tom O Rourke key to that victory." Saint Aidan's must be deplorable. I did say that I felt themselves and Kilmore were very mediocre last week. It was very very poor and seems I was correct. Looks extremely bad for any team that they defeated. How poor must they be?!!
fillzezogs (Roscommon) - Posts: 66 - 05/09/2020 22:51:31
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Fuerty were in driving seat in relegation battle and let it slip and are back down intermediate and as the last three teams relegated Kilmore, Castlerea and Faithleachs it is very hard get back up.
Oran were full value and will win it out even allowing for injury to Jack Early. Dominic's tore into Faithleachs from word go and the loss of Diarmuid Murtagh was a huge blow given that Ciaran Murtagh was carrying an injury also. Couldn't understand what the Dominics penalty was for as it appeared two of their own players ran into each other. Faithleachs have no one to blame but themselves as their lack of discipline cost them not for the first time. Hard to fathom out why their goalie kept kicking ball down on the Dominics half back line in first half who were lording it.
Worry for Anthony Cunningham is the likely loss of Donie Smith and Dairmuid Murtagh for the end of the league. Hopefully the return to form of Ciaran Lennon will offset those two.
SmokieRoss (Roscommon) - Posts: 282 - 05/09/2020 23:13:59
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Fuerty were beaten by Croans, Western Gaels, Ros Gaels, Strokestown, and Tulsk..they had their chances and they simply weren't good enough. They will struggle to get back up any time soon with either Oran or Dominics still in intermediate, Faithleachs and a potential improver in that grade.
Oran looked sharp but Aidan were very poor on the day. A four point return from sixty minutes of chsp football tells it's own story. Dominics won their game in the first quarter. A dubious penalty award cemented that win early on. Faithleachs were shocking on the first half. If they had got three or four scores in the first half they may have made a better fist of it second half. I think they scored their first point in the 29th minute of the half. Unreal given the players they possess.
Hard to call how this final will go. Two young teams for the most part. Dominics have a few old heads with experience while Oran have being in these finals before.
Onto the senior today. I think Pearses and Brigids. Best of luck to all teams. Hopefully the games will be good.
moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1159 - 06/09/2020 12:20:45
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Replying To SmokieRoss: "Fuerty were in driving seat in relegation battle and let it slip and are back down intermediate and as the last three teams relegated Kilmore, Castlerea and Faithleachs it is very hard get back up.
Oran were full value and will win it out even allowing for injury to Jack Early. Dominic's tore into Faithleachs from word go and the loss of Diarmuid Murtagh was a huge blow given that Ciaran Murtagh was carrying an injury also. Couldn't understand what the Dominics penalty was for as it appeared two of their own players ran into each other. Faithleachs have no one to blame but themselves as their lack of discipline cost them not for the first time. Hard to fathom out why their goalie kept kicking ball down on the Dominics half back line in first half who were lording it.
Worry for Anthony Cunningham is the likely loss of Donie Smith and Dairmuid Murtagh for the end of the league. Hopefully the return to form of Ciaran Lennon will offset those two." Nothing wrong with donie Smith and diarmuid is not expected to be more than a month.
Likes of Daragh Walsh, Gillooly, darragh keenan, Paul Carey have performed well in club add in lennon as u say and devaney, harney, Ciaran Murtagh we won't struggle to put a inside line together with Cathal Cregg Conor Cox, Andy glennon.
OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts: 1812 - 06/09/2020 14:57:34
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Enjoyed both of the senior semi finals both games were a good advert for the Roscommon club championship.
Brigids young guns along with old heads such as R Stack, Domican,Sheehys are a joy to watch in full flow. 6 points winners in the end and easily could have won by more. 4 semi final defeats for Boyle now in the last 5 years they perhaps are the 4th best side in the county but meet their match each time in the last 4. Good to see Donie Smith was fit to play the full game.
The 2nd semi final was a really good game between two well matched sides. A game that could have went either way. All four Daly brothers had their good moments and Lorcan kicking the winner in the 4th minute of injury time.
Clann will have plenty of regrets. Gave away an awful soft goal and if only Donie Shine was fit to start? In his little cameo he should he's still one of the best forwards in the club championship. Hopefully Ultan Harney can keep himself fit as we'll be a huge addition to the county panel.
So a Pearses v Brigids final a tough one to call and a lot of water has past under the bridge since their county final meeting in 2016.
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Replying To ispeakwisdom: "Enjoyed both of the senior semi finals both games were a good advert for the Roscommon club championship.
Brigids young guns along with old heads such as R Stack, Domican,Sheehys are a joy to watch in full flow. 6 points winners in the end and easily could have won by more. 4 semi final defeats for Boyle now in the last 5 years they perhaps are the 4th best side in the county but meet their match each time in the last 4. Good to see Donie Smith was fit to play the full game.
The 2nd semi final was a really good game between two well matched sides. A game that could have went either way. All four Daly brothers had their good moments and Lorcan kicking the winner in the 4th minute of injury time.
Clann will have plenty of regrets. Gave away an awful soft goal and if only Donie Shine was fit to start? In his little cameo he should he's still one of the best forwards in the club championship. Hopefully Ultan Harney can keep himself fit as we'll be a huge addition to the county panel.
So a Pearses v Brigids final a tough one to call and a lot of water has past under the bridge since their county final meeting in 2016." Only saw the second game and it was very good football. Thought the winners deserved it, should really have goaled with 2 v the keeper before the black cards
giveitlong (Galway) - Posts: 1291 - 06/09/2020 18:44:51
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I watched the second semi final and to be honest there was not much between the two teams in a good game but I thought Clann wasted alot of opportunities and their decision making in the last third was terrrible (players taking on shots that were just not on). They would have won the game if they had made the right decisions throughout the game. I thought that Ronan Daly was the best player on the day for Pearses but a major concern was how little return they got from their starting forwards with Payne, Carey, Darcy looking out of sorts and below standard. Best for Clann were Fergal Lennon and Stephen Flynn with good support from Donie Shine. I have watched them a number of times this year and their weaknesses are so obvious to see in that their half forward line is just simply no where good enough as a unit and they really need a runner in midfield instead of two big men. There has been a huge focus on Ciaran Lennon but I just feel he has more to contribute in a different position. It was great to see Donie on the pitch and making such an impact.
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Replying To rossno1: "I watched the second semi final and to be honest there was not much between the two teams in a good game but I thought Clann wasted alot of opportunities and their decision making in the last third was terrrible (players taking on shots that were just not on). They would have won the game if they had made the right decisions throughout the game. I thought that Ronan Daly was the best player on the day for Pearses but a major concern was how little return they got from their starting forwards with Payne, Carey, Darcy looking out of sorts and below standard. Best for Clann were Fergal Lennon and Stephen Flynn with good support from Donie Shine. I have watched them a number of times this year and their weaknesses are so obvious to see in that their half forward line is just simply no where good enough as a unit and they really need a runner in midfield instead of two big men. There has been a huge focus on Ciaran Lennon but I just feel he has more to contribute in a different position. It was great to see Donie on the pitch and making such an impact." agree, thought it was a good game, hoping Cathal Shine would have had a greater impact in the middle, Ronan Daly for me stood out for Pearses and their number 13 who scored the goal, Niall Carty did ok too, thought Ciaran Lennon played ok, believe he has good position sense for ball winning, would like to see him scoring 3-4 pts from play consistently, Not sure where else you could play him, maybe centre forward to be used as a play maker. thought Hubert Darcy with his county experience should be having greater impact on game, Donie Shine came on and did have an impact, maybe his county days are not over yet, all in all, think Ros football in good shape
roscommon1944 (Roscommon) - Posts: 275 - 07/09/2020 09:34:51
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A close competitive senior championship we have right now. For example Brigids v Clann drew, Clann beat Western Gaels narrowly and yesterday Pearses only just beat Clann. The final should be a tight tense match also.
Very competitive in the relegated battle also with very little separating Strokestown, Tulsk and Fuerty.
Pearses v Clann clearly the best match of the weekend. Clann won't be happy with the manner they lost that game, only 1-4 they managed from play and 1-1 of that came from Donie Shine who only played 20 minutes, Pearses in comparison managed to score 1-8 from play and that was with their two best forwards held scoreless from play.
Brigids had their tactics and game plan spot on yesterday while Boyle was the opposite and really need to seek for a better quality manager before time passes bye for their group of players.
E Nolan, Sugrue, Derwin, Domican both Sheehys, R Fallon and B Carroll were impressive for the winners the latter two are still only 17, hugely talented young footballers.
Faithleachs the big underachievers in the Intermediate championships. When it came to the crunch they relied too much on the Murtagh brothers and needed a better team effort. They got what they deserved for their first half performance alone. Dominics are making good progress they have a nice blend of youth and experience but I feel they will need Keith Doyle fit for the final, Oran looked best placed to win this county title but finals have been very troublesome for them.
In Junior A it's looking more likely that one of the B teams will win that county title and I'd prefer if that wasn't the case.
One final note it was good to see a number of players returning from serious injuries Conor Devaney, Ultan Harney, Ronan Daly, Cathal Heneghan, Sean Mullooly etc and perform so well.
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Replying To The_analyser: "A close competitive senior championship we have right now. For example Brigids v Clann drew, Clann beat Western Gaels narrowly and yesterday Pearses only just beat Clann. The final should be a tight tense match also.
Very competitive in the relegated battle also with very little separating Strokestown, Tulsk and Fuerty.
Pearses v Clann clearly the best match of the weekend. Clann won't be happy with the manner they lost that game, only 1-4 they managed from play and 1-1 of that came from Donie Shine who only played 20 minutes, Pearses in comparison managed to score 1-8 from play and that was with their two best forwards held scoreless from play.
Brigids had their tactics and game plan spot on yesterday while Boyle was the opposite and really need to seek for a better quality manager before time passes bye for their group of players.
E Nolan, Sugrue, Derwin, Domican both Sheehys, R Fallon and B Carroll were impressive for the winners the latter two are still only 17, hugely talented young footballers.
Faithleachs the big underachievers in the Intermediate championships. When it came to the crunch they relied too much on the Murtagh brothers and needed a better team effort. They got what they deserved for their first half performance alone. Dominics are making good progress they have a nice blend of youth and experience but I feel they will need Keith Doyle fit for the final, Oran looked best placed to win this county title but finals have been very troublesome for them.
In Junior A it's looking more likely that one of the B teams will win that county title and I'd prefer if that wasn't the case.
One final note it was good to see a number of players returning from serious injuries Conor Devaney, Ultan Harney, Ronan Daly, Cathal Heneghan, Sean Mullooly etc and perform so well." The heart was in my mouth at the end of that game and we will need a big improvement in two weeks time for the final or this young brigids team could take us who i was very impressed with.
For Brigids i thought Ruadhri Fallon was excellent and for Pearses Ronan Daly the best on display with niall carty not far behind.
Intermiediate i think this could be the year that oran make the step up. Lovely team they have very balanced all over the field. Faithleachs played straight into domnics hands in that first have and they had the game finished.
Cathal Kenny very impressive for oran he is a huge addition after his return from Australlia. Jack lohan and Daire Keenan very good for Dminics.
Junior championship looks like it is going to be a B team.
Ronans and Kilglass in the play offs with Josephs in the quarter final.
You suspect all first teams to be knocked out in the quarter final unfortunately
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