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MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 24/05/2020 19:49:44 2279142 Link 5 |
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Yip, one player's opinion 'proves' Cluxton was not a great goalie. It was 2014. A lot happened since then."]Greenandred you posted the video so you must think Peters opinion was worth listening to and Peter the great is someone I'd listen to when it comes to talking football. When you consider Pete couldn't pick paschal McConnell or John Devine from his own county he'd actually be further down the pecking order. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/05/2020 20:48:14 2279146 Link 2 |
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No Cork players. I would consider A few out of Canty, Cahalane, Steven O Brien, Shea Fahy and Larry Tompkins. From Down, Mickey Linden and Benny Coulter. Con O Callaghan and Bernard Brogan are also omitted. Anthony Tohill, Jack O Shea and Brian Mullins we're best midfielders in last 40 years
Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 24/05/2020 21:52:01 2279150 Link 1 |
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What would Canavan know about keepers? Come on. One mans opinions is wait for it, listen very carefully, just one mans opinion. As my lad would say "who is Canaan?"
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 24/05/2020 21:58:24 2279151 Link 3 |
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I agree there should be a few Cork lads on that team.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/05/2020 07:53:04 2279161 Link 2 |
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The problem with saying such and such should be included is they have to replace someone else, who most agree should be on the team as well. All of those players mentioned were fantastic footballers. That's the problem with picking a team like this, there can only be 15. You could easily pick another team that would be just as good. The hurling version is a classic example. People are having to pick 2 wing-backs from Padraic Maher, Brian Whelehan and Tommy Walsh. Leaving one of them out seems ridiculous, but that's the nature of it. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2036 - 25/05/2020 16:29:10 2279180 Link 1 |
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What would Canavan know about keepers? Come on. One mans opinions is wait for it, listen very carefully, just one mans opinion. As my lad would say "who is Canaan?""]I would take Rory Beggan over cluxton any day of the week..cluxton is a fantastic leader in a great side but still would take Beggan..
mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 26/05/2020 12:55:53 2279233 Link 0 |
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I look at this type of thing as 'Who are the players you absolutely must include?' Once you have those, the remaining 7-8 places could be argued about for eternity, as there are just so many great contenders. For me, the nailed on certainties would be: Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 26/05/2020 13:40:22 2279238 Link 0 |
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What would Canavan know about keepers? Come on. One mans opinions is wait for it, listen very carefully, just one mans opinion. As my lad would say "who is Canaan?""]I would take Rory Beggan over cluxton any day of the week..cluxton is a fantastic leader in a great side but still would take Beggan.."]You're right, and like I said he's had about 6 good years out of a 19 year career, people have tended to forget all his bad years, who remembers the 5 goals he let in against Meath?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/05/2020 14:04:58 2279244 Link 2 |
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What would Canavan know about keepers? Come on. One mans opinions is wait for it, listen very carefully, just one mans opinion. As my lad would say "who is Canaan?""]I would take Rory Beggan over cluxton any day of the week..cluxton is a fantastic leader in a great side but still would take Beggan.."]You're right, and like I said he's had about 6 good years out of a 19 year career, people have tended to forget all his bad years, who remembers the 5 goals he let in against Meath?"]In fairness when you have the likes of blue nose Whelan and joe brolly on TV shouting from the rooftops about cluxton and leading the circus, it leads to Dublin supporters being blind sighted and hanging off every word about how he could turn water into wine!! Great keeper yes but he hasn't reinvented the game as we're lead to believe...
mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 26/05/2020 15:29:49 2279260 Link 1 |
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How good a defender is McCaffrey?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7336 - 26/05/2020 16:58:23 2279266 Link 8 |
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McCaffrey is a great defender but not as good as lee keegan who could play in any position
mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 26/05/2020 18:54:10 2279275 Link 2 |
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What would Canavan know about keepers? Come on. One mans opinions is wait for it, listen very carefully, just one mans opinion. As my lad would say "who is Canaan?""]I would take Rory Beggan over cluxton any day of the week..cluxton is a fantastic leader in a great side but still would take Beggan.."]You're right, and like I said he's had about 6 good years out of a 19 year career, people have tended to forget all his bad years, who remembers the 5 goals he let in against Meath?"]In fairness when you have the likes of blue nose Whelan and joe brolly on TV shouting from the rooftops about cluxton and leading the circus, it leads to Dublin supporters being blind sighted and hanging off every word about how he could turn water into wine!! Great keeper yes but he hasn't reinvented the game as we're lead to believe..."]Well I suppose Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane must be fully paid up members of the blue nose circus as well as they both selected Clucko as a shoe-in on their team of the decade and team of the 21st century respectively. Indeed Spillane is so obviously pro-dub that Clucko is the only Dub on his selection. Hard to understand how Rory missed out!
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 26/05/2020 20:40:07 2279283 Link 0 |
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Is McCaffery a particularly great defender even? I think if he was playing in bygone eras he'd be a wing forward (and a very good one). His dynamic style and speed going forward is what makes him great. He is such a threat you have to plan for him. McCaffrey would be in my team but I think there are better pure defenders around personally. I don't think you could put him in the category of 'must make this team', as a lot of people might have two out of O'Connell, O'Se, Keegan, Jordan etc. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/05/2020 20:43:54 2279285 Link 8 |
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When a great player like Paul galvin says that Philip Jordan was his toughest opponent that tells you how good of player Jordan was in a fantastic Tyrone team that took care of an equally great Kerry team.. regarding McCaffrey he is a quality operator with skill and pace to burn.. imagine a 1/2 back line of Jordan, Keegan and mc caffery.. pace and power rolled into one
mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 26/05/2020 21:41:40 2279291 Link 3 |
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Jordan was absolutely outstanding, the half back line might be the most competitive area in the entire TSG team. There are just so many wonderful players there. James McCarthy is up there with all of them. Seamus Moynihan also played his best football there and he might be the best of the entire lot, won All Stars at right half back even though he is remembered as a full back. He was the best wing back in the country by a mile around the turn of the millennium but Kerry were so stuck for a full back that they had to put him back there where he was also outstanding. They had Tomas coming through at that time so I suppose it made the move easier. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 26/05/2020 23:03:57 2279298 Link 8 |
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What would Canavan know about keepers? Come on. One mans opinions is wait for it, listen very carefully, just one mans opinion. As my lad would say "who is Canaan?""]I would take Rory Beggan over cluxton any day of the week..cluxton is a fantastic leader in a great side but still would take Beggan.."]You're right, and like I said he's had about 6 good years out of a 19 year career, people have tended to forget all his bad years, who remembers the 5 goals he let in against Meath?"]In fairness when you have the likes of blue nose Whelan and joe brolly on TV shouting from the rooftops about cluxton and leading the circus, it leads to Dublin supporters being blind sighted and hanging off every word about how he could turn water into wine!! Great keeper yes but he hasn't reinvented the game as we're lead to believe..."]Well I suppose Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane must be fully paid up members of the blue nose circus as well as they both selected Clucko as a shoe-in on their team of the decade and team of the 21st century respectively. Indeed Spillane is so obviously pro-dub that Clucko is the only Dub on his selection. Hard to understand how Rory missed out!"]They're working for RTÉ as is Tomás O'Sé they're not going to bite the hand that feeds them are they?
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/05/2020 07:50:19 2279305 Link 2 |
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My dream team from the last 15 years... 1. Rory beggan 2. Keith Higgins 3. Neil mc Gee 4. James mc carthy 5. Jack mc caffery 6. Lee keegan 7. Philip Jordan 8. Brian Fenton 9. Darragh o Se 10. Paul Flynn 11. Pauric Joyce 12. Sean cavanagh 13. Colm Cooper 14. Micheal Murphy 15. Conor mc manus mick2007 (Monaghan) - Posts: 449 - 27/05/2020 08:37:21 2279306 Link 0 |
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Owen Mulligan, Anthony Moyles, Oisin McConville, Colm O'Rourke, Pat Spillane, all say "Steevo" but it's Rory for you, fair dues, an independent thinker!
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 27/05/2020 20:59:53 2279356 Link 1 |
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"Kerry folk voted in their droves". I wonder. Michael Sheehy has 8 All-Stars - that's more than 4 of the chosen forwards. John O Keeffe has 5 All-Stars - no chosen defender has more. Ger Power has 6 All-Stars - more than any chosen defender (albeit he won most of his All-Stars as an attacker). Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 27/05/2020 22:04:50 2279361 Link 2 |