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Replying To catch22: " Replying To KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines. The teachers went to the Beacon. That's where they received the Vaccine. They traveled to the centre not the other way round."
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9115 - 26/03/2021 22:05:34
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Replying To updwell: "This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better." I actually 100% agree with you! As I said in my next post, this is what happens in a 2 tier health system.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 26/03/2021 22:59:21
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Replying To catch22: " Replying To KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines. The teachers went to the Beacon. That's where they received the Vaccine. They traveled to the centre not the other way round."
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 26/03/2021 23:24:45
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I don't agree with this carry on but at least it is a few more through the system. Have to say you would wonder about the judgement of some people.
Hardly the highest fee paying school in the country but hard to believe the nepotism of the CEO of the beacon - am sure he will step down
P.Mckenna (Louth) - Posts: 105 - 26/03/2021 23:29:40
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it's 20 more people vaccinated, who cares who or how or when. 20 people closer to normality.
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1678 - 27/03/2021 06:19:01
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Replying To KillingFields: " Replying To catch22: "[quote=KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines. The teachers went to the Beacon. That's where they received the Vaccine. They traveled to the centre not the other way round."
catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 27/03/2021 07:40:02
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Replying To wishfulthinkin: "it's 20 more people vaccinated, who cares who or how or when. 20 people closer to normality." It's 20 people who jumped the queue while some people with cancer and some over 80s are still waiting for their turn.
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There wouldn't be a word about it if they were gah heads.
AfricanGael (UK) - Posts: 1947 - 27/03/2021 14:02:42
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The one tier health care system for all in Canada while not perfect was designed to create equity. Money will not get you to a specialist any quicker than the public health system. A very clever man called Tommy Douglas many years ago got it through parliament. He got it it written into the constitution so that it could not be changed only by a referendum. Not a hope of that, so political parties don't even try. Remote areas in the North are provide doctors by giving incentives to go to Canada with a obligation to stay up there for five years. Many doctors from South Africa took this opportunity. There has been attempts to circumvent the health system but that is a dangerous illegal road to go down. The U.S. constantly rant against the system in Canada because they are embarrassed with it on their door step and prefer a private system that makes sure the rich can buy their health while protecting the pharmaceutical companies. The poor can die. Vital drugs that people require can be 100 times the cost in the U.S. A disadvantage may be some physicians may leave and go to the U.S. to become billionaires quicker. Not perfect but everyone can manage to be treated.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 27/03/2021 15:25:15
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Replying To Canuck: "The one tier health care system for all in Canada while not perfect was designed to create equity. Money will not get you to a specialist any quicker than the public health system. A very clever man called Tommy Douglas many years ago got it through parliament. He got it it written into the constitution so that it could not be changed only by a referendum. Not a hope of that, so political parties don't even try. Remote areas in the North are provide doctors by giving incentives to go to Canada with a obligation to stay up there for five years. Many doctors from South Africa took this opportunity. There has been attempts to circumvent the health system but that is a dangerous illegal road to go down. The U.S. constantly rant against the system in Canada because they are embarrassed with it on their door step and prefer a private system that makes sure the rich can buy their health while protecting the pharmaceutical companies. The poor can die. Vital drugs that people require can be 100 times the cost in the U.S. A disadvantage may be some physicians may leave and go to the U.S. to become billionaires quicker. Not perfect but everyone can manage to be treated." Canadas waiting lists are also renowned for being lengthy. Im not aware of the specifics of their legislation but I wonder does Canada have similar issues to ireland where people exploit their governments generosity and use state aid to provide themselves with medicines they don't need, but might provide legal highs, all courtesy of the taxpayer.
I once saw an ex girlfriend and her mother gleefully lay out a range of prescription pills they acquired from their respective physicians, that served no purpose other than to help while away the rigours of boredom, bought and paid for by others.
Talk about spitting on the worker.
Galway9801 (Galway) - Posts: 1698 - 27/03/2021 17:34:14
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Replying To AfricanGael: "There wouldn't be a word about it if they were gah heads." The GAA is banned by the Irish govt at the moment. Rugby is not. The school involved with the vaccines and Beacon, is St Gerards in Bray, it is a schools rugby one.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 27/03/2021 17:44:20
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Replying To updwell: "This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better." There are posters on here who seem to like the fact that the GAA is banned at the moment. Imagine being a GAA ahem "fan" and not wanting to see the games being played. I say this because other field games are currently allowed by the Govt- but not GAA.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 27/03/2021 17:48:49
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Replying To KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" It is relevent. Inter pro rugby is allowed at the moment- good luck to them, and inter county GAA is not. Ok, Gah players go back to work on the Monday. But games are played outdoors. And players travel in cars to and from the games.
Vaccinating intercounty players and officials is one way to get back playing. There is only 20 vaccines, and these though are going to a Rugby school, not a GAA one.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 27/03/2021 17:53:43
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Replying To galwayford: " Replying To KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" It is relevent. Inter pro rugby is allowed at the moment- good luck to them, and inter county GAA is not. Ok, Gah players go back to work on the Monday. But games are played outdoors. And players travel in cars to and from the games. Vaccinating intercounty players and officials is one way to get back playing. There is only 20 vaccines, and these though are going to a Rugby school, not a GAA one."
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2446 - 27/03/2021 18:53:51
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Replying To P.Mckenna: "I don't agree with this carry on but at least it is a few more through the system. Have to say you would wonder about the judgement of some people.
Hardly the highest fee paying school in the country but hard to believe the nepotism of the CEO of the beacon - am sure he will step down" They aren't through the system. They will have to get a second shot in a matter of weeks which they are jumping the queue on needy people. It is a scandalous state of affairs and a right vision of exactly how these cursed private schools are in Ireland. They think they are better than the rest of us, GAA is frowned upon, mediocrity in rugby applauded. People going nuts over beating England last weekend in a meaningless game for Ireland for example, grown men crying when ireland beat nz in a friendly game etc etc.
republicofcloone (Leitrim) - Posts: 375 - 27/03/2021 19:27:48
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Replying To galwayford: " Replying To KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" It is relevent. Inter pro rugby is allowed at the moment- good luck to them, and inter county GAA is not. Ok, Gah players go back to work on the Monday. But games are played outdoors. And players travel in cars to and from the games. Vaccinating intercounty players and officials is one way to get back playing. There is only 20 vaccines, and these though are going to a Rugby school, not a GAA one."
Who would pay for the tests for all inter county teams. Do players really deserve vaccinations ahead of at risk people/staff working in hospitals etc? No they dont.
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 27/03/2021 19:30:24
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Replying To galwayford: "The GAA is banned by the Irish govt at the moment. Rugby is not. The school involved with the vaccines and Beacon, is St Gerards in Bray, it is a schools rugby one." The posh lads. The CEO must go.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 27/03/2021 20:06:04
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: " Replying To galwayford: "[quote=KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" It is relevent. Inter pro rugby is allowed at the moment- good luck to them, and inter county GAA is not. Ok, Gah players go back to work on the Monday. But games are played outdoors. And players travel in cars to and from the games. Vaccinating intercounty players and officials is one way to get back playing. There is only 20 vaccines, and these though are going to a Rugby school, not a GAA one."
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 27/03/2021 20:18:44
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Replying To Oldtourman: " Replying To Cockney_Cat: "[quote=galwayford: "[quote=KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" It is relevent. Inter pro rugby is allowed at the moment- good luck to them, and inter county GAA is not. Ok, Gah players go back to work on the Monday. But games are played outdoors. And players travel in cars to and from the games. Vaccinating intercounty players and officials is one way to get back playing. There is only 20 vaccines, and these though are going to a Rugby school, not a GAA one."
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3495 - 27/03/2021 20:56:36
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Replying To KillingFields: " Replying To galwayford: "[quote=KillingFields: "Another vaccine PR disaster with the Beacon hospital. Jesus there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight.
Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 7180 - 26/03/2021 13:04:50 terrible PR considering they passed multiple schools on the way to give gerards teachers the vaccines.
Hardly the worst of indiscretions. Better that they were used up than thrown out as happened in one private nursing home at the start of the roll out. Teachers at least are frontline workers and arguably should be higher on the sequencing list than they have been put. If it was the HSE not following their own guidelines it would be something to complain about but a private company doing a bit of a solo run, though not helpful, is hardly something that can be put in the category of " there is nothing in this country that can be done right/straight"
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1492 - 26/03/2021 13:37:05 it is in the context when multiple schools were much closer than gerards.
This was a private company operating for the privileged who took highly valued and much sought after public property which was intended for vurnerable people and was given to to the teachers of a rich fee paying rugby school. Are we that timid and down trodden as a people that we find this ok and just shrug our shoulders. They were right not to waste the vaccines but giving them to this group of people is only slightly better.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 442 - 26/03/2021 18:14:56 what does rugby have to do with this? Why even mention rugby in this context?" It is relevent. Inter pro rugby is allowed at the moment- good luck to them, and inter county GAA is not. Ok, Gah players go back to work on the Monday. But games are played outdoors. And players travel in cars to and from the games. Vaccinating intercounty players and officials is one way to get back playing. There is only 20 vaccines, and these though are going to a Rugby school, not a GAA one."
Who would pay for the tests for all inter county teams. Do players really deserve vaccinations ahead of at risk people/staff working in hospitals etc? No they dont."]No of course GAA players don't deserve the vaccine before the elderly, the sick or various frontline workers but the CEO of a private hospital thought school teachers in his kids private fee paying rugby playing school did. KillingFields,whether you like it or not, this CEO and his actions represent to a lot of people what the upper class and the rugby community do in this country. They think they shouldn't have to wait in line like the rest of us and can use their money and old school contacts to get ahead. Hockey, tennis and rugby are their sports of choice.
updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 816 - 27/03/2021 21:07:16
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