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Cork's Commemorate Jersey

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Just seen Cork's new jersey commemorating Tomas Mac Curtain and Terance Macswiney it's a beautiful jersey it also has the boys of Kilmichael and burning of Cork depicted on the jersey. Would love if Limerick did something similar with Patrick Sarsfield and the seige of Limerick and with Sean South depicted on it too.

DUALSUPPORT (Limerick) - Posts: 1038 - 20/02/2020 21:23:50    2268687

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Replying To DUALSUPPORT:  "Just seen Cork's new jersey commemorating Tomas Mac Curtain and Terance Macswiney it's a beautiful jersey it also has the boys of Kilmichael and burning of Cork depicted on the jersey. Would love if Limerick did something similar with Patrick Sarsfield and the seige of Limerick and with Sean South depicted on it too."
Or as Cork are gonna wear this against Limerick we could have one with Clancy and O'Callaghan who were 2 mayor's of Limerick killed on the same night by auxiliaries during the war

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 20/02/2020 22:56:53    2268694

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Also never knew his full name was Tomas Mac Curtain Koolite

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 20/02/2020 23:27:57    2268701

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find it cringey,and think commemorative jerseys of people from the past are nonsense,modern ireland doesnt need more dwelling on history

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 21/02/2020 08:56:11    2268723

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Thomas McCurtains GAA club in east London/Essex are celebrating their Centenary this year and are in Cork weekend of the commeration celebrations. One of the oldest clubs outside of Ireland, team were always known as the Cork team in London due to their close association with Fords factory in Dagenham and in 1954 the Cork All Ireland winning team with Christy Ring came to Dagenham to play McCurtains. In fact Dagenham was known as Little Cork. Only club in Britain with adult hurling and football, ladies football and camoige and underage hurling and football.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 21/02/2020 09:36:51    2268731

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Love it, I also noticed chill insurance isn't in a big white box, please do they same in the red jersey

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 21/02/2020 10:36:11    2268742

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Fairplay to Cork for remembering their local hero's with this beautiful jersey . Hopefully more counties follow suit.

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 365 - 21/02/2020 10:39:51    2268744

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Replying To perfect10:  "find it cringey,and think commemorative jerseys of people from the past are nonsense,modern ireland doesnt need more dwelling on history"
Modern Ireland ? You must be of that so if you have that kind of superficial attitude. God help us if you're a sign of the future.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 21/02/2020 11:32:28    2268759

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Replying To perfect10:  "find it cringey,and think commemorative jerseys of people from the past are nonsense,modern ireland doesnt need more dwelling on history"
Aye right, let's be the only nation/sport to forget our past!

Our past, good and bad, made us what we are today.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 21/02/2020 12:57:53    2268783

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Cork are the rebel county, they say, so FairPlay. Every county has them. I wonder would the GAA allow the Hunger Strikers on jerseys? 40th Anniversary coming up? I'm fine with it.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 21/02/2020 13:23:03    2268792

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and to show our magnanimous nature we could adorn it with a poppy and maybe a few viking runic staves
(awaits the perpetually angry little red thumb man)

Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1060 - 21/02/2020 13:52:09    2268802

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Cork are the rebel county, they say, so FairPlay. Every county has them. I wonder would the GAA allow the Hunger Strikers on jerseys? 40th Anniversary coming up? I'm fine with it."
brilliant idea.

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 21/02/2020 14:08:42    2268806

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The Dubs and Tipp are going to have a challenge game before the International Rules game this year in Nov as a commemorative event marking the centenary of Bloody Sunday as well as other commemorative events both in Dublin and Tipp and on the day itself.

Honoring our shared history and heritage is massively important.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 21/02/2020 14:39:41    2268809

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Cork are the rebel county, they say, so FairPlay. Every county has them. I wonder would the GAA allow the Hunger Strikers on jerseys? 40th Anniversary coming up? I'm fine with it."
Cork the Rebel county but if we are celebrating history we should be accurate!
In 1491, yet another pretender to the English throne - a man named Perkin Warbeck, claiming to be the Duke of York - arrived in Cork City. The majority of the people of Cork - including the Lord Mayor - stood behind Warbeck. It is because of this apparent support of Warbeck that Cork became known to the English monarchy as 'the rebel county'.
Another jersey maybe?

Mayfair (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 21/02/2020 15:03:46    2268815

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Replying To suckvalleypaddy:  "Cork are the rebel county, they say, so FairPlay. Every county has them. I wonder would the GAA allow the Hunger Strikers on jerseys? 40th Anniversary coming up? I'm fine with it."
They had one for the 25yr commemoration and I'm sure a West Belfast club had a Sands one but I'm struggling to find pics of it

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 21/02/2020 15:06:47    2268816

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I have a feeling I am taking somewhat of a minority position, but I'm opposed to this proposal.
Will it mean we can finally put to bed the argument that the GAA isn't a political organization and the next time a unionist makes that assertion we can all agree with them? Were McSweeney and MacCurtain involved in the GAA in Cork? And whatever about that, I'm not sure what the burning of Cork has to do with the GAA or why it should appear on a jersey. What's next? Louth to have a jersey for the sack of Drogheda? Galway for Aughrim? Roscommon for the siege of Athlone (sorry West Meath, the part of the city that held out was in Connacht!)? The siege of Limerick? Etc. etc. Every county has an endless list of historic events and personages they could produce jerseys for (why am I not surprised it's Cork that needs to assert it's 'republican' heritage), but have chosen not to for very good reasons; 1. the GAA is not a political entity and ought to be inclusive; 2. Because it's bloody stupid.

I realize the inherent contradiction of my position given the names of many GAA clubs (Liam Mellows, in my own county springs to mind) which I absolutely do not have a problem with, but those names were adopted 80-90 years ago. Times have changed, and a lot has happened since then.

Also raises questions about which events we will allow to be commemorated, and which ones we won't. Think of the debacle over the ill-conceived RIC Anniversary event. Once this door is opened how do we close it?

Keep politics off the playing field.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 21/02/2020 16:45:19    2268834

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Replying To Mayfair:  "Cork the Rebel county but if we are celebrating history we should be accurate!
In 1491, yet another pretender to the English throne - a man named Perkin Warbeck, claiming to be the Duke of York - arrived in Cork City. The majority of the people of Cork - including the Lord Mayor - stood behind Warbeck. It is because of this apparent support of Warbeck that Cork became known to the English monarchy as 'the rebel county'.
Another jersey maybe?"
That's only a theory not a fact

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 268 - 21/02/2020 16:55:45    2268837

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "That's only a theory not a fact"
Ah! Thanks to Mr Trump the convenient world of the "alternative fact" that we all live in. If facts don't agree with my perception just deny them.
It doesn't really matter where the name came from originally, but don't deny it!

A few handy references;
https://northoltgrange.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/but-why-call-it-the-rebel-county/

https://www.corkcoco.ie/sites/default/files/2017-04/Heritage%20Centenary%20Sites%20.pdf

https://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/if-not-for-collins-why-is-it-called-the-rebel-county-29469436.html

http://www.discoveringcork.ie/an-irreverent-short-history-of-cork/

Mayfair (Galway) - Posts: 65 - 21/02/2020 18:14:33    2268854

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "That's only a theory not a fact"
Theory, perhaps. What is a fact is that the name pre-dates the War of Independence, and while it is now associated with activities in parts of that country at that time, the origins are much older. Here's an interesting article which only shows that for any county in Ireland you can cherry-pick any one time period to show it either as a 'rebel' or 'faithful' county. Am I right, Offaly?

Speaking of which, the WWI memorial in Tullamore is the only one I've seen anywhere which shows the dates of that conflict as 1914-1919. Seems someone forgot to tell the Biffo's to stop shooting on 11/11/18.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 21/02/2020 18:33:19    2268857

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Replying To Mayfair:  "Ah! Thanks to Mr Trump the convenient world of the "alternative fact" that we all live in. If facts don't agree with my perception just deny them.
It doesn't really matter where the name came from originally, but don't deny it!

A few handy references;
https://northoltgrange.wordpress.com/2016/09/27/but-why-call-it-the-rebel-county/

https://www.corkcoco.ie/sites/default/files/2017-04/Heritage%20Centenary%20Sites%20.pdf

https://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/if-not-for-collins-why-is-it-called-the-rebel-county-29469436.html

Its" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.discoveringcork.ie/an-irreverent-short-history-of-cork/"
Its a nickname. Stop taking it so personally and worry about actual problems ;-)

pkboher (Cork) - Posts: 49 - 21/02/2020 19:13:13    2268860

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