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How can runaway inter-county costs be controlled? omahant (USA) - Posts: 2570 - 31/01/2020 01:40:17 2263915 Link 1 |
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traleegerry (Kerry) - Posts: 738 - 05/02/2020 21:05:56 2265520 Link 0 |
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Even if they put a cap in, it will be broken. Just like the training ban, the dog ate my homework excuses from some counties when that rule was abused & which the GAA accepted, it made a mockery of the whole thing & they expected the public to believe it. Who would police it, a previous DG said they tried to find evidence of payment to managers one time, but couldn't find any ! When nearly every club in the country is paying outside managers five & six figure sums. We are to believe that people going from club to club (look at all the high profile individuals gone to clubs this year as reported here) , like mercenaries are all doing it for the love of it. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 05/02/2020 22:08:01 2265535 Link 1 |
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Are Dublin the only team spending money or what's your point?
CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 05/02/2020 22:08:09 2265536 Link 6 |
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Massive contribution to thread.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 06/02/2020 00:21:09 2265566 Link 3 |
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Different teams will have different costs. A team knocked out early v a team that gets to the latter stages. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 06/02/2020 12:45:57 2265657 Link 8 |
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I think u put your finger on the issue whether u meant to or not. It is the runaway nature of the costs. To me the actually costs is nearly a side issue. I just never get the feeling that county boards (bar a couple of exceptions) are in control of things. People give out about the Dubs but they manage their affairs very well. I would imagine the costs associated with the Dublin team would not be a million miles from the other large counties. Their advantage comes from the funding the put into grass roots. I don't know but would hazard a guess that what Dublin put into grass roots is a much higher percentage of their total expenditure than what they spend on their football team. I seems to me that some counties spend huge sums on the main team but very little coaching at grass roots. Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1826 - 06/02/2020 13:44:22 2265671 Link 0 |
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Its weird you would get a thumbs down for that question? I suspect these sort of people who would say about the under dog team "just a warm up for our boys" to friends or "they would be better off at home training". They would also put their arm around the shoulder of the 35 point beaten under dog team and say "sure you gave us a great game and ye are getting there".
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 10/02/2020 19:59:16 2266880 Link 0 |
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This. Look at the P & L for any team that goes on a deep championship run and look at what the big expenditure items are. There is simply no way to keep costs down if you are required to train and play in to August. Accommodating a team and backroom team in Dublin for two nights several times a year is expensive. If you are a dual county like Galway or if you have underage teams going on runs as well then forget it.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 10/02/2020 23:13:00 2266947 Link 6 |
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The Galway Hurling Board took in €650,000 last year from Club Hurling Championship matches throughout the whole year. katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 11/02/2020 17:11:21 2267100 Link 0 |
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Yeah, costs are increasing. But so are the number of games being played each year are also increasing, as are the demands on inter-county teams. And the other side of the increase in costs, is that there is also increased revenue. On the hoganstand home page, there are currently 2 stories side by side: "Spending on county teams could be capped", and "GAA revenues hit record high" Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 11/02/2020 18:14:07 2267114 Link 0 |
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GAA stated total spending for fielding inter-county teams in Ireland was about 30 million per annum - sounds like a runaway train alright leaves very little for anything else. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 11/02/2020 18:53:40 2267127 Link 0 |
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Dublin run more teams futher in the championship and also have hurling teams going to knockout stages and still spend less than other counties. So jog on if you think this is just all about transport costs witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 12/02/2020 12:43:23 2267275 Link 1 |
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This year team expenses are reflected in the Gaa accounts, for example Dublin received 380k in team expenses, we got to what three finals last year, Kerry received 547k from the GAA in team expenses, both teams getting to the final, to be fair Kerry were also in the league final. Its a better breakdown of the cost of expenses then previous years in the acocunts. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/02/2020 13:13:49 2267285 Link 2 |
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All I can say is Tom Ryan has a neck like the jockey's you know what. I am sure he is talking about less for the the amateurs performers (players) already preforming for nothing putting in over 30 hrs a week to keep him and others in their cushy jobs. Maybe the players should pay up to play and increase his salary. If he really wanted to control spending on professional paid back room team staff he could easily do so by having some rules put in place and centrally controlling all county team expenses. Paul Flynn recognizes his little gambit and is right to point it out to the public. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 12/02/2020 21:06:34 2267409 Link 1 |
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Think it would be unpolicable myself Canuck, regardless of rules. You will remember the audit a few years back in the club game, the famous phrase, we couldn't find the table, never mind what is underneath it. It's all well and good coming out with lofty aspirations as administrators, policing it is another manner, by that I mean be prepared to deal with the black market economy. My fear is intervention will just drive the arms race underground, just like the club game black economy. At least at the moment we have visibility. Personally I think we are to far gone. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 12/02/2020 21:57:49 2267420 Link 3 |
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The huge growth in the costs in running an intercounty team has directly coincided with the increase in annual expenditure by the GPA. Discuss. WunderBar (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 13/02/2020 12:52:43 2267502 Link 0 |
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I wouldn't be happy about a lot of what comes out of Croke Park these days but I think Tom Ryan was perfectly in order to highlight the spending on county teams and I don't think we should assume that he was advocating spending less on players. The commitment required for county players nowadays is bordering on unacceptable and I doubt if there are many GAA people who would begrudge them whatever perks they may get in terms of free gear, free gyms, holidays (wives and girlfriends included) or whatever. However, I believe there is a problem with the size of backroom teams, I accept there is a need for coaches, physios, strength and conditioning etc but now we have counties with two kitmen, two or three statisticians, video analysts, liaison officers, logistics managers etc. Do we really need all these people? Surely county board officials could carry out some of these duties. Even if these "extras" aren't been paid their very involvement adds to travel and catering costs, as well as holiday expenses. Would it not be better to reduce these costs and divert the money instead to underage coaching etc?
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 541 - 13/02/2020 17:22:05 2267554 Link 0 |
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Considering how much work goes into county teams and sheer numbers involved 2 kitmen would be a must and standards so high two statisticians is needed as well. Video analysts and people who run logistics. Again who does all these peoples work if you remove them and you cant just say divert the money to underage coaching. The underage coaches are already there....
KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3496 - 13/02/2020 18:26:00 2267562 Link 0 |
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I would agree with you with regards the backroom teams. I agree with Tom Ryan but would he not paint the full picture of all the other costs. Like how about we need to contain salaries that are paid in the association. Don't tell me the are not going up either. Cut your cake but stay away from mine. While the costs of on field and support for the inter county teams is out of hand, they are still the big earners for the association. I find it ironic that the people on here who jump and holler for their idols the players, would give their first born before giving any thing to the player. People trash their representative body that to my knowledge the majority of players are grateful for. I think it may be a kind of jealousy. Like I am not good enough or willing to train 7 days a week but these players are supposed to do it for my entertainment. There are many words along with arrogance to describe that. Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2655 - 13/02/2020 20:12:21 2267572 Link 1 |