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Could This Be How Gaelic Games Will Be Sold ?

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https://m.independent.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/neil-francis-the-wrong-type-of-people-are-lined-up-to-sell-the-six-nations-to-the-wrong-type-of-people-38895182.html

I hope the Gaelic Games world will not get so corrupted for the next generation (circa 2040).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1808 - 26/01/2020 22:48:11    2262718

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I can never see the GAA being sold

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 127 - 28/01/2020 10:19:47    2263129

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Replying To DuhallowRed:  "I can never see the GAA being sold"
If you told someone twenty years ago games would be sold to a British broadcaster behind a paywall they would have laughed at you. The current GAA management are so far removed from grassroots it isn't funny

mightyday (Australia) - Posts: 15 - 28/01/2020 11:44:11    2263162

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The GAA would never sell its games or its soul in some sort of Faustian bargain....... trying a bit of reverse psychology here to see if this gets past mods this time......

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 3980 - 28/01/2020 13:43:03    2263197

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Note I said sale of 'gaelic games'as opposed to the 'GAA'.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1808 - 28/01/2020 13:59:40    2263201

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Replying To mightyday:  "If you told someone twenty years ago games would be sold to a British broadcaster behind a paywall they would have laughed at you. The current GAA management are so far removed from grassroots it isn't funny"
Spot on, the deal struck with the GPA on the percentage of all commercial GAA revenues was the first stepping stone towards professionalism, no turning back from this now & they are fighting over the value of the next contract. Professionalism will happen very quickly even in my lifetime & those who deny it or naive or else misleading people deliberately. To pay for this everything will be a commodity for sale or sponsorship. The leaked report from a previous presidents time in office on the future direction of the GAA had some issues that would cause major debate amongst members & gave some insight on these things.
All the talk of Tier 2 this year, when there is already a Two Tier system in place in the GAA, Tier 1 the intern county set up for 2% of membership & the rest of the 98% of membership who are Tier 2 & seen as shit on the shoe at both national, provincial & county level.
The GAA sold their soul ages ago & even the last public voice of discontent sold out two weeks ago, admitting the fight was over & took the soup.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1014 - 28/01/2020 14:13:25    2263203

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I don't think GAA's embedded ideals will prevent reform coming from 21st Century outside commercial interests - what's wrong with the two-track anyway ? - aren't the Dubs wonderful to watch - imagine multiple Dub Pro teams, Kerry and whoever else is up to it - make standards where 'sky's the limit' for us all to be in awe (call it entertainment) - and then have the minnow/not so minnow club scene for the mortals, continuing on an amateur basis (still enjoyable for player and spectator alike).
Let's start with an 8-team GPL (Gaelic Prem L) - it's 2020 after all.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1808 - 28/01/2020 22:46:15    2263359

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Replying To omahant:  "I don't think GAA's embedded ideals will prevent reform coming from 21st Century outside commercial interests - what's wrong with the two-track anyway ? - aren't the Dubs wonderful to watch - imagine multiple Dub Pro teams, Kerry and whoever else is up to it - make standards where 'sky's the limit' for us all to be in awe (call it entertainment) - and then have the minnow/not so minnow club scene for the mortals, continuing on an amateur basis (still enjoyable for player and spectator alike).
Let's start with an 8-team GPL (Gaelic Prem L) - it's 2020 after all."
Never a truer word spoken. The amateur game would grow because players would see an opportunity to a living. Its going to happen anyway in spite of the ones buried in the sand. In fact it exist for a chosen few already and they don't want to leave anyone else on to the gravy train.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 859 - 29/01/2020 00:07:22    2263384

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Replying To omahant:  "I don't think GAA's embedded ideals will prevent reform coming from 21st Century outside commercial interests - what's wrong with the two-track anyway ? - aren't the Dubs wonderful to watch - imagine multiple Dub Pro teams, Kerry and whoever else is up to it - make standards where 'sky's the limit' for us all to be in awe (call it entertainment) - and then have the minnow/not so minnow club scene for the mortals, continuing on an amateur basis (still enjoyable for player and spectator alike).
Let's start with an 8-team GPL (Gaelic Prem L) - it's 2020 after all."
It goes against everything we stand for. It's not like these ideals are limited to our amateur sport. Look at how important supporting your local club is to fans of soccer in England. Shrewsbury were a great example. I can understand the disdain for the Big Six and their global fan bases.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 29/01/2020 07:47:05    2263394

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The GAA structure is very differently organised than say Rugby.

There's ownership of different parts of the game in Rugby.

Premiership rugby, Six Nations, Super 14 are separate entities that can have ownership stakes.

There isn't a company that owns the senior championship.

Sponsorship rights are sold by the governing body, as much as the GAA has to have a commercial aspect to it, I don't see there in the short term being anyone looking to sell the competition off by parts.

In the professional games a lot was driven by clubs breaking away from governing bodies to own their own rights.

Not even Dublin have the capacity to stand on their own at present.

There's not much money in the GAA by the way. I don't think a business man looks at it and says here we go I'm rich.

65m total revenues. A disproportionate amount of the revenue comes from a handful of games.

If someone was on dragon's den trying to pitch professional Gaelic games as a business model they'd be laughed out of the room.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 3037 - 29/01/2020 09:28:21    2263405

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To what extent would a Rogue Full Time Pro Franchise 8-team League boost football revenues ? Hard to tell until tried - I can't wait. The GAA could continue with its governance of everything else. What wrong with having an AIL played along with a Pro 14 (or 8) ?

And.....imagine, hurling rising above current exciting SHC standards as well.

omahant (USA) - Posts: 1808 - 03/02/2020 22:32:39    2264974

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