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Donegal "Won't Have A Team" On Sunday

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Replying To expe:  "Kerry had 7 available for their game against Tipperary last week, still managed to play the game and an under 20 game against Cork the day before."
If kerry don't care about their players that's there business. But kerry are the Munster football board so it's harder for them when they set the schedule

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 11/01/2020 20:36:26    2258976

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Donegal knew all this in advance...so why pull after the event? Play players nit involved in the Sigerson...

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 11/01/2020 22:15:53    2259005

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probably because before the competition starts they would not have known who would be injured who would be playing sigerson etc. Lets not forget one big thing here is Declan Bonnar asked for the game to be postponed for a couple of days but HQ as usual refused so Donegal were left with no choice.

ulsterrules (Donegal) - Posts: 259 - 12/01/2020 09:35:24    2259037

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Replying To expe:  "Kerry had 7 available for their game against Tipperary last week, still managed to play the game and an under 20 game against Cork the day before."
Christ they must have covered some ground with only 7 players

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 12/01/2020 12:14:52    2259059

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Replying To ulsterrules:  "probably because before the competition starts they would not have known who would be injured who would be playing sigerson etc. Lets not forget one big thing here is Declan Bonnar asked for the game to be postponed for a couple of days but HQ as usual refused so Donegal were left with no choice."
That's right he didn't say they wouldn't play it, but that they couldn't play it on the allotted day. It's up to people what they believe after that. The fact he offered to play it at a later date, I would give him the benefit of the doubt

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 12/01/2020 12:24:04    2259061

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Team pulls out of January warmup friendly tournament.

It's not a big deal

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 12/01/2020 13:38:00    2259069

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correct, not a big deal, the league is coming.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 12/01/2020 14:35:14    2259082

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Replying To panamasam:  "But sure the GAA and the Ulster Council showed complete disregard by not moving by 48 hours? They are incapable of doing a simple thing like scheduling fixtures in a correct manner and have shown time and time again how inflexible they are. Sure there were Corofin lads trying to play 2 games in a day only in the last couple of years ludicrous stuff. Plus as I already mentioned Declan was the manager of the county under 21's who were shown no respect or regard. The fact is the GAA are a shambles and completely amateur in relation to fixture scheduling. You would not see the likes in local school boy or junior football."
Why move the game? So the university lads would be 'forced' to play Sigerson and then Mc Kenna cup 48 hrs later and then more Sigerson at the weekend....facts are Donegal landed to play a game v Roscommon before Xmas with 25 for the panel while playing a full 15v15 game on a separate field at the Connaught centre of excellence among themselves.....Bonner tried bully college players and Ulster gaa but his bluff was called

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 12/01/2020 15:40:06    2259098

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Ridiculous post. Anyone with half a brain can see that this is more of a "line in the sand" stance re: fixtures. If anything Declan Bonner should be applauded. All we hear is moaning and crying all the live long day about fixtures and "something" needing to be done. Well at least Donegal have done something. It will probably mean the death knell for the McKenna Cup but who cares really? In 2021 teams can arrange challenge matches on mutually beneficial dates and times as preparation for the League instead."
Nothing to do with fixtures, Sigerson is already being squeezed and colleges deserve their players....this is all due to managers again trying to dictate everything....it's a pre season tournament just play the game....overplayed his hand and his bluff was called

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 12/01/2020 15:43:08    2259099

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Replying To rorysboys:  "He had 23 fit players last Wednesday night. Take the Sigerson 13 out of it this week and then you might understand why donegal are not playing on Sunday."
How come they brought 55 players to Connaught centre of excellence just before Xmas then......

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 12/01/2020 15:46:08    2259101

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A load of nonsence from Bonner. Deserves whatever punishment comes his way.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 12/01/2020 16:22:40    2259115

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Not sure I agree with Bonner on this one. Field a team of 2nd string lads just for a run rather than not at all.
Rescheduling the game would only further burden the 1st team players with fixtures and we don't want to burn them out after all we know now about injury and over training.

Not disappointed about this as the McKenna cup is not where it is at. If people are angry about Bonner, I think they need to reassess their passion for the McKenna cup competition as they are unlikely to be or have been at a single game this year or over the past few years for that mater.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 12/01/2020 18:27:07    2259159

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Paul Brennan gave the Sigerson game a miss to attend Donegal training today.

neutral (None) - Posts: 358 - 12/01/2020 18:50:00    2259175

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Replying To PaudieSull1:  "Nothing to do with fixtures, Sigerson is already being squeezed and colleges deserve their players....this is all due to managers again trying to dictate everything....it's a pre season tournament just play the game....overplayed his hand and his bluff was called"
Nothing to do with fixtures? What?

I think if the GAA are serious about addressing the many, many problems around the calendar and fixtures then some decisive action is needed from the top. Otherwise we'll continue to see issues such as these.

For a start I'd do away with the pre-season tournaments. There is too much pressure on young players who are involved with Sigerson. Qualification for the last 4 of Sigerson could be sorted out pre-Christmas and have the semi finals and final played by the third week of January.

County players who are non-students have the whole of January to prepare for the League. Managers can arrange challenge matches at sensible, mutually agreed dates and times, rather than being beholden to fixtures handed down by provincial councils.

This way the college lads can devote their commitment to their college team and county managers can work away with what they've left.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9135 - 13/01/2020 10:36:03    2259325

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Bad form by Donegal, Dublin gave a skeleton team a chance to represent their county against Longford. The result is not a big deal but give lads a chance to wear the county jersey.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 13/01/2020 10:46:00    2259329

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See where Donegal had a training session on Sunday morning , with one player Brennan not playing for Sligo IT to take part in it. They hardly had this session without at least twenty players taking part in it. The cost of , a training session must be just about the same as a game . Funny decision by Donegal to withdraw from McKenna Cup.

culmore (None) - Posts: 1398 - 13/01/2020 11:48:54    2259350

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Replying To culmore:  "See where Donegal had a training session on Sunday morning , with one player Brennan not playing for Sligo IT to take part in it. They hardly had this session without at least twenty players taking part in it. The cost of , a training session must be just about the same as a game . Funny decision by Donegal to withdraw from McKenna Cup."
Funny decision and trying to blame the Ulster Council and some in the county calling for the end of the McKenna cup. The arrogance is laughable, notions of themselves for sure. I've only heard great feedback since the McKenna cup was moved pre league. The most laughable part of their argument is "welfare" but their plans were to have players competing in two games over 48 hours. It's pre season tournament for counties to get competitive games and look at new players; I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a team out of some sort. The Ulster Council give notice of the dates and did very well in not falling for Donegal's antics; we'll forget about the McKenna cup by next week but it will be back in 2021 and at least all counties know what will happen if they try the antics of Donegal again. Donegal lost out on potentially two competitive games their loss.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 13/01/2020 12:36:19    2259369

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Replying To sam1884:  "Funny decision and trying to blame the Ulster Council and some in the county calling for the end of the McKenna cup. The arrogance is laughable, notions of themselves for sure. I've only heard great feedback since the McKenna cup was moved pre league. The most laughable part of their argument is "welfare" but their plans were to have players competing in two games over 48 hours. It's pre season tournament for counties to get competitive games and look at new players; I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a team out of some sort. The Ulster Council give notice of the dates and did very well in not falling for Donegal's antics; we'll forget about the McKenna cup by next week but it will be back in 2021 and at least all counties know what will happen if they try the antics of Donegal again. Donegal lost out on potentially two competitive games their loss."
How come you guys are so upset about it?

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 13/01/2020 12:54:32    2259375

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The club-player idea is nonsense.

I can name more experimental McKenna Cup players who have quit the game early than players who used McKenna Cup as any form of platform to push on into the summer.

It's a tournament to build fitness and to slowly integrate underage players into senior inter-county football. When fixtures clash with U-20s and Sigerson, what's the point in fielding a team of non-panel players? Get a load of very good club players who haven't trained. What would that achieve? Go out and get hammered by an inter-county team and go back to your club demoralised and demotivated that your inter-county debut didn't go the way you had dreamt. Give over. Many bigger complaints in the GAA than to complain about Bonner pulling the side out...

SurelyToGod (Donegal) - Posts: 377 - 13/01/2020 16:14:20    2259449

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Replying To sam1884:  "Funny decision and trying to blame the Ulster Council and some in the county calling for the end of the McKenna cup. The arrogance is laughable, notions of themselves for sure. I've only heard great feedback since the McKenna cup was moved pre league. The most laughable part of their argument is "welfare" but their plans were to have players competing in two games over 48 hours. It's pre season tournament for counties to get competitive games and look at new players; I find it hard to believe they couldn't put a team out of some sort. The Ulster Council give notice of the dates and did very well in not falling for Donegal's antics; we'll forget about the McKenna cup by next week but it will be back in 2021 and at least all counties know what will happen if they try the antics of Donegal again. Donegal lost out on potentially two competitive games their loss."
Notions of ourselves... this seems very personal for you. We are Ulster champions so that deserves respect. Bonner had an issue with the scheduling farce which has enveloped the GAA for many a year now, he just stood his ground on the issue. And we lost two McKenna cup games, I'm not sure the word 'competitive' covers the actual importance of them though in fairness. 'Antics' and 'notions' are all excitable words to be using about a competition that most people will have forgotten by February.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 13/01/2020 18:47:05    2259486

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