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Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Really enjoyed that. Clare were the much better team. I don't know what it is about Wexford but they struggle with us big time. They have better hurler than they are allowed to show. Davy surely gone now. Lohan has done a super job with limited resources. Not too bad for a "bang average team" that we are being called over in the Wexford forum. Roll on next week." I think Wexford would take your hand off for that title now... Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 18/07/2021 08:33:53 2360948 Link
Good Win over Wexford started in terrific fashion the heat was obviously a factor we faded a bit but fought back well The Wexford goal at end should have been avoided E Quilligan after a good save made a howl out of clearance on another day would cost bit time. Our Full back line were terrific I thought Malone was superb in linking play got 1.01 a bit more composure would have ended 1.04 our Half forward line worked socks off R Taylor especially the inside line far more potent Shans had his best game all the subs improved things especially Jack Browne i would nearly consider him for midfield. What's story with D Fitz wasen't on first 26 Delighted to get Cork have a real chance now clooney (Clare) - Posts: 984 - 19/07/2021 09:02:17 2361499 Link
Clare v Cork Long time since Cork played when they were beaten handy by Limerick. Bookies will have Cork as favorites but I give us a great chance here. We are battled hardened and playing great stuff. Roll on Saturday. LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 19/07/2021 09:41:01 2361518 Link
Fine win. Well deserved. Some poor shooting and stupid mistakes coming out of defense but glad to win. Kelly only 2 points from play yet we hit 2.16 from the other lads. 2 games in a row we have hurled well without our main forward in top form. Shows we have a good team and those 1 man team comments are way off That is 3 times in 4 years we have knocked Wexford out. I think we have proven we have their number. Wexford are like Clare 14-16, players let time by poor negative tactics. Cork next. Probably Thurles. 50/50 game. Will be plenty goals in it and also a high speed game. Lohan has really rebuilt this side in 18 months and still I think we can improve and get better this year and again next year. Hopefully he gets more time as its deserved. Clareman (Clare) - Posts: 1056 - 19/07/2021 11:20:13 2361562 Link
Replying To clooney: "Good Win over Wexford started in terrific fashion the heat was obviously a factor we faded a bit but fought back well The Wexford goal at end should have been avoided E Quilligan after a good save made a howl out of clearance on another day would cost bit time. Our Full back line were terrific I thought Malone was superb in linking play got 1.01 a bit more composure would have ended 1.04 our Half forward line worked socks off R Taylor especially the inside line far more potent Shans had his best game all the subs improved things especially Jack Browne i would nearly consider him for midfield. What's story with D Fitz wasen't on first 26 Delighted to get Cork have a real chance now" D Fitz trained with his club Friday evening. I dont know why but appears he was dropped LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 19/07/2021 11:24:16 2361569 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "Clare v Cork Long time since Cork played when they were beaten handy by Limerick. Bookies will have Cork as favorites but I give us a great chance here. We are battled hardened and playing great stuff. Roll on Saturday." Of course ye have a great chance. Two of the goals Tipp got again ye were of the very lucky variety indeed. If they had not occurred I feel ye would have been our opponents yesterday. Ye have beaten KK already this year also- why should ye be underdogs against Cork?. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 19/07/2021 12:54:23 2361647 Link
Replying To LohansRedHelmet: "D Fitz trained with his club Friday evening. I dont know why but appears he was dropped" would be a loss good Hurler hope its nothing serious clooney (Clare) - Posts: 984 - 19/07/2021 13:28:56 2361693 Link
Hard to call this game against cork. But i would favour us to do it. Simply because cork have not played in a few weeks and in that game they setup specifically for limerick. They couldnt know where they are at in the bigger scheme of things. While our team will be confident, battle hardened as someone else said here and we now know what we're about. One thing about Cork i think we can be sure about is that horgan wont be as poor again because class is permanent and also he always has his best games against us! Where they position harnedy will be crucial. Also obviously where kelly goes, which i think will be center forward. Coleman wont want to follow him. So if kelly initially stays close to coleman then the midfielder wont come back to pick him up. So if he half floats in and out, cork will be caught between 2 stools. Could end up they double mark him by default which wi create loads of space for the other forwards. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 20/07/2021 18:34:24 2362229 Link
Replying To hurlingexpert: "Hard to call this game against cork. But i would favour us to do it. Simply because cork have not played in a few weeks and in that game they setup specifically for limerick. They couldnt know where they are at in the bigger scheme of things. While our team will be confident, battle hardened as someone else said here and we now know what we're about. One thing about Cork i think we can be sure about is that horgan wont be as poor again because class is permanent and also he always has his best games against us! Where they position harnedy will be crucial. Also obviously where kelly goes, which i think will be center forward. Coleman wont want to follow him. So if kelly initially stays close to coleman then the midfielder wont come back to pick him up. So if he half floats in and out, cork will be caught between 2 stools. Could end up they double mark him by default which wi create loads of space for the other forwards." I think this could be a real humdinger. It's very evident that the players are bursting a gut for their manager. Given the talent available, they might just get over Cork Shocs07 (Limerick) - Posts: 374 - 20/07/2021 22:44:34 2362324 Link
Think Clare will win this. Do not think Cork have anyone to hold Kelly. Is SOD out for the rest of the year? Southsham (Limerick) - Posts: 752 - 21/07/2021 12:29:14 2362466 Link
Clare have terrible record against Cork in general. They had a great win over them in Ennis in the last round Robin game a few years ago. I think Cork will be too much for them and over run them. Clare can't hold a lead it seems. I'm saying all that I hope Clare win because of Lohan and the dignity and steadfastness he shows. A real man's man. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 21/07/2021 14:54:14 2362536 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Clare have terrible record against Cork in general. They had a great win over them in Ennis in the last round Robin game a few years ago. I think Cork will be too much for them and over run them. Clare can't hold a lead it seems. I'm saying all that I hope Clare win because of Lohan and the dignity and steadfastness he shows. A real man's man." Hold on now. Clare beat Cork when it really mattered in 2013 and Cork had two bites of the cherry. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 21/07/2021 16:42:23 2362573 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Clare have terrible record against Cork in general. They had a great win over them in Ennis in the last round Robin game a few years ago. I think Cork will be too much for them and over run them. Clare can't hold a lead it seems. I'm saying all that I hope Clare win because of Lohan and the dignity and steadfastness he shows. A real man's man." We have a very bad record against them in indeed they have some super hurlers such as Colman Fitzgibbons Harnedy Horgan Kingston ect. Our Last championship win was in Ennis in 2019 before that we lost the 2017/2018 Munster finals when we were I believe a better team. They lost by 7 or 8 I think to Limerick who are a different animal to everyone else at moment thought, so cant read too much into that. We will be more match fit though and we have a wide spread of players that can Score apart from TF McCarthy/Taylor Reidy/ Shanagher &/ I Galvin all are well able to take scores. Could be best game of year I cant really know who will win if we hit top form we have good displays V Waterford but faded excellent V Tipp for 40 + Minutes then finished well. Super start V WX but diden't ever put them away clooney (Clare) - Posts: 984 - 22/07/2021 08:55:48 2362727 Link
Looking at the cork team that player limerick, i would probably expect one change to it. I think they will bring in luke meade for conor cahalane. Meade has been an underrated link man and worker for cork over the last few years and he also got the game changing goal against us in the 2018 munster final. It would be interesting to see if they would bring in bill cooper now that he has a few more weeks training done, but i think they will stick with millerick. Downey looked like a lad who was going to he a mainstay of the cork side for years to come but maybe hasn't progressed as they wouldve hoped. Still wouldnt be surprised if he came in though. Shane Barrett is another who wont be far off, then there's alan cadogan who i really like. I think he's a class player with so much skill and pace. But ankle injuries have held him back as well as inconsistency. I hope he's not starting! hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 22/07/2021 09:57:44 2362745 Link
Commiserations from your neighbours. I watched the game totally aghast at the tactics employed by Clare. The world and its mother knows that Cork don't have a half forward line to win a puck out. To make matters even more daunting for Cork Clare have a first class half back line. The more bivouac tactic for Clare would be to push up on Cotks puck out and force them to go long. Couldn't believe my eyes when for the first 15 mins and last 15 mins Clare stood off and played the game on Cork terms by allowing them to go short. In these periods Cork raced into a lead and scored 1-5 in last 10-12 mins. I think Lohan committed tactical suicide . Clare best themselves IMO. welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 24/07/2021 23:45:42 2363707 Link
A funny kind of game, we were in most of the way through without every really playing that well i felt. We could list numerous things that could've swung the outcome in our favour. But how unlucky was kelly? The right man having the ball at the very end, great save from collins but very disappointed for Tony. He deserved that, his second half performance was outstanding in dragging us back into the game. Cork's goals killed us, especially Barrett's. Just gave us too much to do. Not sure how he was left so free though. Similarly for kingston's goal he was totally unmarked from our sideline and did his stuff from there when he got the chance. It wasn't shanagher's best day but the quality of ball he got wasnt the best either. If he works hard over the next 9 months he can be a top class forward next year. Center back has been a problem for us since conor ryan had to retire and i think overall conlon has done pretty well there and i would definitely have him there again next year. Lastly Shane O'Donnell is one of our best players in my opinion and was a huge loss. Lohan said after the game that he trained last tuesday night which is great to hear. Shane often gets criticised for not scoring enough, but its when he's not there that you really see what we missed without him. He is so good at winning 50/50 ball in the full forward line then winning frees or setting up others. The amount of ball that went in yesterday and came back out as fast was very frustrating, if we have shane in there the ball wouldve stuck a lot more. I think himself and shanagher could work very well together. All in all a relatively positive year, we've come a long way since the antrim game. Beating wexford last week an obvious highlight, beating waterford as well. Whereas a lot wouldnt read too much into the league, i think beating kilkenny was huge for us and was the ideal confidence boost going into championship. Lohan definitely deserves a few more years at it. While every follower of clare gaa deserves change at executive level. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 25/07/2021 09:11:52 2363733 Link
Lohan defo deserves 2vmore years. The players gave it all. We need Conlan back to 14, we need Duggan and SoD back and also perhaps likes of Morey as pace off bench. Also, more game time in league for Cian Galvin, Donnellan and Meehan and Rodgers will come on a ton from this summer. It's getting harder and harder at the top but I hope Lohan is given every backing. We have to maximise what we have to give us a chance against the big boys. Flakeaway (Tipperary) - Posts: 14 - 25/07/2021 12:22:11 2363807 Link
Replying To Flakeaway: "Lohan defo deserves 2vmore years. The players gave it all. We need Conlan back to 14, we need Duggan and SoD back and also perhaps likes of Morey as pace off bench. Also, more game time in league for Cian Galvin, Donnellan and Meehan and Rodgers will come on a ton from this summer. It's getting harder and harder at the top but I hope Lohan is given every backing. We have to maximise what we have to give us a chance against the big boys." Def agree with you on Conlon. Wasn't great at c back last 2 games and sorely missed up front. Playing a lot of the game on Cork terms cost Clare this game. Clare prob a top 5 team this year and with Conlon Duggan and O Donnell up front they should improve more welpastit (Limerick) - Posts: 740 - 25/07/2021 15:54:11 2363896 Link
Replying To welpastit: "Def agree with you on Conlon. Wasn't great at c back last 2 games and sorely missed up front. Playing a lot of the game on Cork terms cost Clare this game. Clare prob a top 5 team this year and with Conlon Duggan and O Donnell up front they should improve more" I think we've invested too much in conlon at 6 this year to just scrap it and find a new centre back next year. Personally i think cian galvin is the long term option. But maybe in 2 years time at the earliest. Conlon for me has to be there next year. Otherwise it would just be another temporary solution for a year. Ive seen a lot of people suggesting Diarmuid ryan for 6, but he is a perfect wing back. And if you look at it centre and wing back are now very different positions. In relation to peter duggan i think it would have been great to have him this year, but if he comes back next year it will be 3 years since he will have played. I dont think he could be half the player he was in 2018 after that absence. His form had even dropped into 2019, so after 3 years in Australia then its hard to see him getting close to the level of 4 years previous. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 25/07/2021 23:56:07 2364130 Link
Replying To welpastit: "Commiserations from your neighbours. I watched the game totally aghast at the tactics employed by Clare. The world and its mother knows that Cork don't have a half forward line to win a puck out. To make matters even more daunting for Cork Clare have a first class half back line. The more bivouac tactic for Clare would be to push up on Cotks puck out and force them to go long. Couldn't believe my eyes when for the first 15 mins and last 15 mins Clare stood off and played the game on Cork terms by allowing them to go short. In these periods Cork raced into a lead and scored 1-5 in last 10-12 mins. I think Lohan committed tactical suicide . Clare best themselves IMO." I rarely understand too to tactic of conceding the puck put especially as you point out if you have a decent half back line which we do. Brian Lohan deserves respect for what he has done but was way too slow in making some changes no matter what anyone says Aron Shanagher was very poor on Saturday he dosent work anywhere near enough in trying to make breaks or creating space he should have been replaced before half time Gary Cooney deserved a good run out he was immediately into the action and could have goaled. The changes Clare made in putting Taylor to MF and McCarthy to FF diden't appear to work as both players well well down on their display as half forwards V Wexford. Jack Browne should have come on a lot earlier for Colm Galvin who was also out of position. David Fitzgerald was named in subs but wasent used his pace would have been very useful last year he was really going well in the forwards. Too many lads left panel that could have made a difference Morey Cunningham Podge Jamie Shanahan also clooney (Clare) - Posts: 984 - 26/07/2021 09:08:29 2364167 Link