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Madden from Boden is over there, Kilkenny went and came home. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 10/12/2019 22:10:50 2254215 Link 7 |
It's easier keep a player when you can promise his a good shot at an AI medal. I bet Tadgh Kennelly wouldn't have bothered to come home for a year if he was a Limerick footballer rather than walking into an AI winning Kerry side
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 10/12/2019 22:26:27 2254218 Link 3 |
To be fair Gerry the lad who's unavailable is always the best player ever. I'm not doubting these lads talent but it's something to take into account as well. My point about Murphy staying is that the vast majority of lads who have the opportunity/ability to go to Australia don't actually go. If Mark O'Connor had stayed maybe he'd be burned out from club, University and county football by 23. That's something we see with talented young players the whole time, every county loses way more players to that than they do to Aussie Rules. My point is that Aussie Rules takes so few players and that there are far more players being lost to a host of other reasons. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13692 - 10/12/2019 23:07:10 2254224 Link 7 |
Yes I understand that there are other reasons that players fall away, disinterest, injury etc etc. Normally happens long before they get anywhere near a senior inter county panel though. The AFL is coming looking for the best young talent right before they make the breakthrough to senior, and sometimes afterwards. Surely you can see the distinction, and recognise why it is frustrating for fans and people involved with the teams in question. I also haven't heard of any players turning down offers in the recent past, the trend now seems to be to go which is a personal decision of course, and the players are probably right to take the chance as they will only ever get it once. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 11/12/2019 00:40:18 2254227 Link 8 |
To be fair KingdomBoy Uosis definitely isn't a blue chip player, he won't ever make a Kerry Senior panel either as a goalkeeper or an outfield player. I'm not sure if Colm Moriarty is a blue chip player although I think he could make it. I'd see him as the same level as a couple of other young full backs in the county. I doubt either Moriarty or O'Shea will be offered a contract. Okunbor and especially O'Connor are huge losses. O'Connor is an unbelievable footballer, he was a better minor than Sean O'Shea and just a small bit off Clifford. If we had him I don't think Dublin would have done the 5 in a row. Okunbor is also a very big loss, I think he could have developed into a class full back.
Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 954 - 11/12/2019 16:00:41 2254308 Link 1 |
Here, which one do you prefer, Ukunbor or Uosis? Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12103 - 11/12/2019 17:17:43 2254325 Link 9 |
Deutz Fahr for me
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 11/12/2019 17:39:17 2254332 Link 0 |
Agreed. I saw McKenna play a couple of times and reckoned he was exceptional - better than every other forward we currently have. In a parallel universe, he'd be teaming up with McShane, but like everyone says, fair play to them. Getting paid to stay fit n healthy in good weather is a no-brainer
essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 1141 - 11/12/2019 17:45:36 2254333 Link 0 |
Okunbor is the better footballer.
Kerry15 (Kerry) - Posts: 954 - 11/12/2019 21:21:02 2254351 Link 0 |
Kingdomboy it's true that Dublin do have players that the AFL would be after and how Dublin manage to keep the wolves from the door is baffling . If Kilkenny had decided to stay he would have been a huge loss and they probably wouldn't have won the 5 without him.
gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 11/12/2019 21:50:39 2254355 Link 2 |
GAA expressing moral outrage today about the exodus to the AFL, 10 players a year but because they are the elite players, cue the outrage. No embarrassment though that thousands of players are exiting at club level every year as they are not being catered for, leaving GAA & having no involvement. Where is the outrage for those players, I counted 24 players in one club coming from minor over two years, dropping out & not playing again, replicate that over a few thousand clubs, no wonder people have lost all faith in GAA hierarchy. moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 12/12/2019 01:38:48 2254371 Link 0 |
Exactly, maybe the country lads just have more football ability, maybe that's why the Aussies pick our boys off.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/12/2019 07:47:17 2254374 Link 2 |
It's in culchies blood to be the first on the boat jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 12/12/2019 08:44:09 2254379 Link 7 |
I don't know if this has been said before but there should be a fee payed to each players clubs by the AFL team that signs them. It would soften the blow of losing a star player and would reward them for their efforts in coaching these kids the whole way up along. LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 12/12/2019 09:09:46 2254381 Link 0 |
Lol, yeah, if you said it then it must be true. That's a lot of maybe's hun.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 12/12/2019 10:13:23 2254386 Link 2 |
The promise of making history playing for an historic team was probably a good carrot to stay I would imagine.
Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 12/12/2019 10:17:08 2254388 Link 2 |
That has been suggested in the past. I wouldn't be in favour myself, it would amount to formalising the arrangement and could even be seen as facilitating the recruitment of Irish players to the AFL. The only thing I'd like the GAA to do is to pull out of that awful compromise rules series. On a broader point I would also agree that the GAA should be doing more to facilitate club players and keep them involved. Im not as involved with my club as I was due to moving away but the biggest issue as I see it is that the structure of club competitions across the country is absolutely all over the place. Other sports are able to give much more definite dates for games and competitions and it allows players to actually make plans for weekends and to have a life. How you could even begin to streamline it is a much bigger and broader question than can be addressed in this thread though. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 12/12/2019 10:41:56 2254396 Link 6 |
This is an excellent point and a far bigger issue than a handful of players being taken to play AFL. Also, lots of promising young GAA players also play soccer and get called over to England. Far more than are going to Australia. Some very talented players in both codes have been lost to the GAA by managing to carve out a professional soccer career. Fair play to them if they manage it, and I'll say the same for any lad who makes it in Australia. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2018 - 12/12/2019 11:34:38 2254407 Link 0 |
Let the aussies come and let them take the handful of lads they take. They are going over to be a professional sportsperson paid a good wage nice climate. I do not understand how anyone could begrudge a young lad from going. Majority go between 19 - 22 thats some experience to have for a young lad or girl. Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 12/12/2019 11:53:50 2254411 Link 4 |
'Cause I've got a brand new combine harvester and I'll give you the key The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 12/12/2019 11:54:46 2254412 Link 0 |