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Sweet lantern, I'll admit our lads play on the edge but all teams do , please stop making out that we're the only team that plays on the edge , stephen o Brien semi final pulls a Tyrone man down black card , league final in '17 fitzsimon's pulled down on our last attack to get an equalizing point black card for the midfielder can't think of his name right now, every top team has an edge Mayo the same , stop making out that Kerry lads are angels please. David Gough had a good game and cooper can have no complaint's with the second booking the first booking for me was harsh Clifford made a dive backwards to exaggerate the contact and Small dive to exaggerate the contact from O Sullivan aswell. Refereeing these games is an impossible job They go out to do their best and if we keep abusing them after every game will have no one wanting to do the job in the future. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/09/2019 22:34:52 2232136 Link 4 |
It's just a pity that Kerry people, ex managers and players in particular, sought to attack Gough and question his integrity ahead of the game. Really poor form but not that surprising. I wonder what they'll have to say about their neighbour ahead of the replay.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 02/09/2019 23:22:18 2232155 Link 4 |
But both of Tom o Sullivans were yellow card fouls.
Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 03/09/2019 00:42:05 2232173 Link 0 |
Kettle and a pot in that post.
Jonnycee (Longford) - Posts: 185 - 03/09/2019 00:43:32 2232174 Link 0 |
I think cooper was coming from behind to try and get a paw to the ball, and when he realized that Clifford had him turned he grabbed David's arm and pulled him down, so it was a black or a yellow either would have ended in a a red at that stage.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 03/09/2019 07:53:29 2232190 Link 1 |
It/ll take more than 8 years for some fans to take their defeats on the chin and move on.
Dinosbar&grill (Dublin) - Posts: 23 - 03/09/2019 07:58:59 2232192 Link 0 |
Not many would argue with that even if the first yellow was soft. But consistency is the key. If Cooper walks then O'Sullivan walks. Simple as that really. Massive bad call by Gough which could have cost Dublin the game, just like the soft peno. No doubt Aido and Eamo's words were ringing in his ears at the time.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 03/09/2019 08:49:38 2232205 Link 4 |
I heard Pilar Caffrey on the Marty Squad after the game. I thought he was very bitter about the referee. It was pretty much his only contribution to the programme. Very unfair. Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 03/09/2019 09:18:08 2232219 Link 2 |
Do you think it was unfair because the other player was better than him and therefore he should have been allowed play dirty and foul . It was the only way he could get the better of clifford
Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 03/09/2019 09:47:59 2232233 Link 2 |
100% agree. He can have no complaints about his second yellow, and the thing about it was Clifford wouldn't have got the ball it was gone by him crazy from Jonny.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/09/2019 10:06:33 2232243 Link 3 |
The second one wasn't. Gough didn't buy the dive and he ticked O'Sullivan for a very minor foul as per the rules. Look at the replay and there simply isn't enough contact to knock Small right off his feet like that.
GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/09/2019 10:13:57 2232251 Link 5 |
If there was consistently good referring Cooper would find it difficult to finish any match on the field of play as he continually fouls off and on the ball (like at least one other) -the problem in this match is that he got caught. He would have been fine with Dublin Joe and a few other 'top class Refs'.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/09/2019 10:23:34 2232258 Link 6 |
It's just a pity that Kerry people, ex managers and players in particular, sought to attack Gough and question his integrity ahead of the game. Really poor form but not that surprising. I wonder what they'll have to say about their neighbour ahead of the replay."]Please, oh please show me where "Kerry people, ex managers and players in particular, sought to attack Gough and question his integrity". This is your interpretation. You need to support your view with some logical argument and maybe quotes - that's how debates are normally conducted. Wild statements on their own will not suffice. For example. A few years ago the Dublin Co. Board had a referee actually removed. This is a fact and having established that fact I logically go on to conclude that the Dublin Co. Board acted very badly and "attacked the referee's reputation". See: first fact, then conclusion. Can you follow? The point being made by Kerry people and others - I made it here in April - is that a Dublin based referee, Gough or A. N. Other, should not in PRINCIPAL be reffing Dublin games. Is that not a perfectly reasonable view? Of course you may disagree but it's a perfectly reasonable view. Equally, a Kerry based referee should not be reffing a Kerry game. Quite simple - no rocket science here. I thought that David Gough had a good game on Sunday. Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 03/09/2019 10:30:14 2232261 Link 2 |
Pillar is from the same club as Jonny of course he's going to only see it one way in all fairness.
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 03/09/2019 10:30:33 2232263 Link 4 |
It/ll take more than 8 years for some fans to take their defeats on the chin and move on."]Most folk thinks it a joke the way fouling off the ball and on the ball is allowed in Croke Park-those sort of incidents are not allowed in most club matches.
browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 03/09/2019 10:30:39 2232264 Link 5 |
Why does O'Sullivan have to walk if Cooper does? Please enlighten us. I think we have a good shout for the referee of the replay right here.... lol boman11 (Antrim) - Posts: 237 - 03/09/2019 10:40:01 2232269 Link 1 |
Aye no complaints on the sending off, the peno was a bit soft but you see them given. I thought Kerry got the better of the decisions but i wouldn't crib about it. I wouldnt put it past Jonny to have a stormenr th enext day, Fitzey will go on Young David of Fossa and Jonny onto Geaney. We will have an extra man in defense again the next day, unless Kerry drop Barry and sure why would they do that, i think on that score we can feel comfortable enough to move Jamsey into midfield and let Fenton be the decoy. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/09/2019 10:46:11 2232271 Link 0 |
He might be on the bench for the replay! Although I'm not sure Gavin has the confidence of the bench he had in previous years
Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 03/09/2019 11:14:40 2232287 Link 0 |
You are right. Tom had two fouls called all game, one bookable, one tickable. Comparing that to the litany of fouls committed by Johnny Cooper and the circumstances in which he got sent off is apples and oranges. There seems to be an underlying expectation that a ref has to 'even things up' when he gets the opportunity regardless of the offence. He doesn't. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 03/09/2019 11:19:24 2232290 Link 8 |
Sad to see really. I think everyone can agree on that. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 03/09/2019 13:24:07 2232375 Link 2 |