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I'd be comfortable too if everything was handed to me. Thankfully none of Kerrys success was built on the assistance of others. We did it ourselves.. worth more than having it given to you. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 18/08/2019 20:34:24 2227216 Link 5 |
Or what about our first 4 in a row from 1929 to 1932?
gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 18/08/2019 20:35:07 2227217 Link 4 |
So what you're saying is that you find it a little offensive that such an ignorant assertion would be stabled to your back? The pride you feel as a Donegal man and your sense of fairness would all count for nothing because you work in Dublin.. yes I can see why you'd feel aggrieved alright. It's an ugly and unfair assertion Imagine if you had such labeled at you in the national media.. jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 20:35:37 2227218 Link 5 |
Kerry did it twice while Wexford did it once. Sure you know two is more time's than one don't you? Here's another question for you. Why do you spend most of your time talking about Kerry? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1375 - 18/08/2019 20:39:39 2227222 Link 1 |
You are right of course, Wexford have one for in a row like yourselves two great teams
ky_dub (Kerry) - Posts: 16 - 18/08/2019 20:42:55 2227227 Link 1 |
The fundamental point that justice must be seen to be done and that, as far as possible, referees must not only be neutral but be seen to be neutral seems to be beyond the grasp of many here. You mention 'professional people who would come into contact with one another in day to day life but they go and do a professional job' Quite often 'professional people' - judges (another word for referee), for example, do withdraw fron cases where a PERCEIVED - key word here - conflict of interest may arise. Why did Dublin have the Kerry referee removed? Because they PERCEIVED a possible conflict of interest. Do you really think a Limerick referee living and working in Tralee would be acceptable to Dublin? Of course he would not and Dublin would be perfectly correct to have reservations about him. It is not personal in Gough's case - as my April post shows. It is simple: no one embedded in Dublin should be reffing a Dublin game, just as no one embedded in Kerry should be reffing a Kerry game. If you can't grasp that I give up."]Id have zero problem with a limerick man living in Tralee reffing a Dublin match to be honest, sure if one exists give him this game."]But he's no more embedded in Dublin than David Coldrick who refereed the last Dublin v Kerry final was, he lived and worked in Dublin too. And is he is that embedded in Dublin how come he over ruled himself and cancelled the penalty against Cork."]Some guys on here have a problem with the English language. Embedded (fix (an object) firmly and deeply in a surrounding mass: he had an operation to remove a nail embedded in his chest) does not mean that Gough or Coldrick are biased. It means that there may be a PERCEPTION (the way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted) of bias. Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 18/08/2019 20:43:19 2227228 Link 1 |
Not a peep out of Tipp today with the ref selection.
lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 18/08/2019 20:46:27 2227230 Link 4 |
Well most of us wernt alive for the Wexford 4 so that might be a thing. Also in 1918 I doubt many knew how much a thing the 5 in a row would become
Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 18/08/2019 21:04:16 2227240 Link 2 |
Yes well said How many games did that one take jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 21:11:50 2227243 Link 6 |
It's already been posted to you Dublin have won All Irelands by playing 3/4 games. Or do you not count them?
oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1375 - 18/08/2019 21:23:46 2227247 Link 2 |
Oh but that's not the point whatsoever so please try to keep up.. haha Now as for me talking about Kerry Well why not? Sure there's plenty of talk about Dublin. This is a thread mostly about Kerry. Why have you never asked a Kerry person the same question using a similar logic? Why don't you have your county attached to your new username Ashamed? Trying to hide something? jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 21:34:08 2227262 Link 6 |
I heard they got to play every game in Killarney too. Does that sound fair? cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 4979 - 18/08/2019 21:40:07 2227269 Link 2 |
yes that is correct and Galway Minors said nothing about the Carlow ref but that it is still not right. If the minor game was close would the blatant penalty not given be a talking point. Also, a tackled Galway keeper "over carried" ball, free in. You need neutral refs.
suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1662 - 18/08/2019 21:52:45 2227274 Link 0 |
On the two occasions Kerry have done "4" in a row in the 20/30s & 70/80s they've won a three game All Ireland. Wexford least game championship in their run, was four games to win one championship, Dublin gave them a by. Obviously to do it twice is a terrific achievement though, though individually Dublin and Wexford won more games consecutively to do theirs. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4441 - 18/08/2019 21:53:56 2227275 Link 6 |
What's that got to do with anything :)
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 22:00:42 2227277 Link 3 |
What county you from chief jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 22:02:38 2227280 Link 5 |
Yes.
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 22:10:23 2227284 Link 4 |
Congratulations But that has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made. As well you know jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20587 - 18/08/2019 22:24:14 2227299 Link 4 |
The fundamental point that justice must be seen to be done and that, as far as possible, referees must not only be neutral but be seen to be neutral seems to be beyond the grasp of many here. You mention 'professional people who would come into contact with one another in day to day life but they go and do a professional job' Quite often 'professional people' - judges (another word for referee), for example, do withdraw fron cases where a PERCEIVED - key word here - conflict of interest may arise. Why did Dublin have the Kerry referee removed? Because they PERCEIVED a possible conflict of interest. Do you really think a Limerick referee living and working in Tralee would be acceptable to Dublin? Of course he would not and Dublin would be perfectly correct to have reservations about him. It is not personal in Gough's case - as my April post shows. It is simple: no one embedded in Dublin should be reffing a Dublin game, just as no one embedded in Kerry should be reffing a Kerry game. If you can't grasp that I give up."]Id have zero problem with a limerick man living in Tralee reffing a Dublin match to be honest, sure if one exists give him this game."]But he's no more embedded in Dublin than David Coldrick who refereed the last Dublin v Kerry final was, he lived and worked in Dublin too. And is he is that embedded in Dublin how come he over ruled himself and cancelled the penalty against Cork."]Some guys on here have a problem with the English language. Embedded (fix (an object) firmly and deeply in a surrounding mass: he had an operation to remove a nail embedded in his chest) does not mean that Gough or Coldrick are biased. It means that there may be a PERCEPTION (the way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted) of bias."]Embedded in Dublin!!! You are some cookie arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4892 - 18/08/2019 22:27:54 2227303 Link 2 |
Can someone tell me when or where did "neutral" evolve to mean neutral province? Did I miss something? Most of the Carlow (and Wexford) people I know (including friends and relatives) fecking hate Kilkenny, and haven't been too shy in sewing yesterday's defeat into me either. Like, would you consider a Mayo or Roscommon ref doing a Galway match as an inherent "advantage"? I doubt you would. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 19/08/2019 02:28:15 2227325 Link 5 |