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Kerry V Tyrone

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Very hard to pick a favourite for this one. Two very good teams, lots of pacey and skilful players. My gut says Tyrone. Should be a good fiery clash. Looking forward to it.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 06/08/2019 14:17:06    2221607

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Replying To neverright:  "Following the Mayo v Donegal game, I get the feeling that the Donegal and Kerry forward lines were completely over-rated.Mayo snuffed out the Donegal attack and Tyrone are quite capable of doing the same to Kerry."
A very strange observation, if we have one thing it is quality forwards!
Hopefully Deegan will be alert and will react quickly to any off the ball stuff that might be used against the likes of Clifford, O'Shea, Genaey and O'Brien.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/08/2019 14:42:56    2221623

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Replying To westkerry:  "Did Mayo snuff out the Kerry attack too?"
Maybe in the 'real deal' they would but it's up to Tyrone now. I see that another Kerry poster seems to believe that the Kerry forwards can only be nullified by using what might be termed 'unfair methods'. I didn't think that would be the Kerry approach to stopping good forwards.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/08/2019 15:27:16    2221658

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Replying To TheHermit:  "A very strange observation, if we have one thing it is quality forwards!
Hopefully Deegan will be alert and will react quickly to any off the ball stuff that might be used against the likes of Clifford, O'Shea, Genaey and O'Brien."
Haha brilliant. We have all seen over the years how dirty Kerry can be. If deegan is alert there will be as many kerry lads in trouble as tyrone lads.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 06/08/2019 15:39:07    2221668

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Replying To neverright:  "Following the Mayo v Donegal game, I get the feeling that the Donegal and Kerry forward lines were completely over-rated.Mayo snuffed out the Donegal attack and Tyrone are quite capable of doing the same to Kerry."
No matter how could a forward is they can be stopped. Look how many times in the past where the tops have been marked out of it.

Kerry have great forwards, if you give them space they will punish you.

Should be a great game and I hope Tyrone let the long ball in to macshane early and often. Looking forward to it.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 06/08/2019 15:42:24    2221670

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Replying To neverright:  "Maybe in the 'real deal' they would but it's up to Tyrone now. I see that another Kerry poster seems to believe that the Kerry forwards can only be nullified by using what might be termed 'unfair methods'. I didn't think that would be the Kerry approach to stopping good forwards."
Your user name really represents you brilliantly.
Funny when Kerry beat anyone is never the real deal its only a soft win for Kerry.
Unfair methods is taking players out off the ball unpunished as happened continuously against Donegal.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 06/08/2019 15:44:43    2221672

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Replying To neverright:  "Maybe in the 'real deal' they would but it's up to Tyrone now. I see that another Kerry poster seems to believe that the Kerry forwards can only be nullified by using what might be termed 'unfair methods'. I didn't think that would be the Kerry approach to stopping good forwards."
You're joking right? Kerry are the masters of the dark arts. If they can't beat you, they foul you.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 06/08/2019 16:00:38    2221677

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Kerry and Mayo are good footballing counties but in my view they are third and fourth best teams in Ireland with Dublin top and Tyrone in second. I cant see this changing and I predict a Tyrone and Dublin win here. Dublin are Dublin and will hand Mayo a serious reality check and retire a few of their players. Kerry are inexperienced and lack know how, now they arnt lacking in quality and enthusiasm and you probably wouldn't want to go man to man against them but they can outplayed and out witted. Kerrys golden era is as dead as the VHS.

cacsmckilly (Tyrone) - Posts: 1294 - 06/08/2019 16:26:21    2221687

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Replying To cacsmckilly:  "Kerry and Mayo are good footballing counties but in my view they are third and fourth best teams in Ireland with Dublin top and Tyrone in second. I cant see this changing and I predict a Tyrone and Dublin win here. Dublin are Dublin and will hand Mayo a serious reality check and retire a few of their players. Kerry are inexperienced and lack know how, now they arnt lacking in quality and enthusiasm and you probably wouldn't want to go man to man against them but they can outplayed and out witted. Kerrys golden era is as dead as the VHS."
Which Golden era is dead, there's been quiet a few over our history :)
This decade has been underwhelming by the Kingdoms lofty standards but we're hoping this new young team represents the start of another golden era. An AI in 2019 might be too much to expect too soon but whatever happens they'll give Sunday a good rattle.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/08/2019 16:38:19    2221696

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Replying To cacsmckilly:  "Kerry and Mayo are good footballing counties but in my view they are third and fourth best teams in Ireland with Dublin top and Tyrone in second. I cant see this changing and I predict a Tyrone and Dublin win here. Dublin are Dublin and will hand Mayo a serious reality check and retire a few of their players. Kerry are inexperienced and lack know how, now they arnt lacking in quality and enthusiasm and you probably wouldn't want to go man to man against them but they can outplayed and out witted. Kerrys golden era is as dead as the VHS."
We will know for sure after Sunday. I think Kerry certainly have enough to make it interesting even if their inexperience is exposed. Peter Keane has shown himself to be very shrewd to date and well able to game plan for opponents. This was a flaw in the previous regime, we got our setup badly wrong on several occasions in big games.

A loss would not be the end of the world for Kerry, they are young and have time on their side, there is no huge pressure on them. If Kerry win you'd have to wonder how much more Mickey Harte can do with his group given their main players have been around a good while now.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 06/08/2019 17:15:01    2221725

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Micky Harte has cut and pasted Jim Mc Guinness play book.

If Tyrone play open football like they did against us they will be beat. But this will not happen. They will play the way we used to play.

Can Kerry adapt and beat this? That's the interesting question.

DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 06/08/2019 17:33:30    2221741

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Replying To westkerry:  "Your user name really represents you brilliantly.
Funny when Kerry beat anyone is never the real deal its only a soft win for Kerry.
Unfair methods is taking players out off the ball unpunished as happened continuously against Donegal."
A personal attack is a sure sign of a very weak argument.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 06/08/2019 17:40:56    2221749

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Which Golden era is dead, there's been quiet a few over our history :)
This decade has been underwhelming by the Kingdoms lofty standards but we're hoping this new young team represents the start of another golden era. An AI in 2019 might be too much to expect too soon but whatever happens they'll give Sunday a good rattle."
*coming though Munster

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 06/08/2019 18:28:15    2221786

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Replying To DLlegends:  "Micky Harte has cut and pasted Jim Mc Guinness play book.

If Tyrone play open football like they did against us they will be beat. But this will not happen. They will play the way we used to play.

Can Kerry adapt and beat this? That's the interesting question."
Absolutely ridiculous post.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 06/08/2019 18:28:40    2221787

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Replying To neverright:  "A personal attack is a sure sign of a very weak argument."
Well you make statements that Kerry V Mayo a few weeks back wasn't the real deal then that nonsense should be called out.
You know what they say about opinions...

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 06/08/2019 19:31:09    2221822

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I see Kerry winning this one. They have too many good forwards. Very skillful. There weakness is high balls kicked in but I don't see Tyrone doing this enough. Kerry by 6.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1337 - 06/08/2019 22:13:23    2221940

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Replying To bdbuddah:  "I see Kerry winning this one. They have too many good forwards. Very skillful. There weakness is high balls kicked in but I don't see Tyrone doing this enough. Kerry by 6."
Kerry for me by 3-5 points , a very hungry young talented team with superior firepower.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 06/08/2019 22:50:27    2221968

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Should be close. If Kerry 'turn up' I think they'll win it but Harte is a wily auld divil.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 06/08/2019 23:34:03    2221986

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I fancy Kerry on this one, but only just. I think it will be when push comes to shove in the last 15 minutes where this game will be won. We'll find it hard to build any bit of a decent lead with Tyrone's swarm. At the same time it's hard to ignore that between league and championship Kerry have played 13 games and have only lost twice, (10 games against this years div. 1 teams and 3 of this years div. 2) They have played every kind of team this year and will be abel to plot a suitable plan for a given team, in this case it's Tyrone. The one message that Peter Keane will have is don't carry the ball into the tackle, keep the play quick and simple and kick the balk snappy into the full forward line. Stephen O' Brien our main ball carrier won't be taking on as many men, Clifford will be kept out in the corner so to avoid Colm Cavanagh in front of him who usually camps around the D area. My biggest concern for Kerry would be who will pick up McShane, Morley isn't inspiring under the high ball unless he is double marked by Morley and Enright or something. The main difference I think will be in Kerry's favour which is the ability to score better in pressure situations either from distance or being tackled. Tyrone rely alot on McShane and Harte, with a bit from McCurry whilst Kerry have a lot of different players who can put up decent tallys. Kerry by 4 in my view, but in saying that it'll be such a close game I could be wrong but I'll stick by my guns. Kerry by 4

AnFear16 (Kerry) - Posts: 33 - 07/08/2019 02:19:31    2222004

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Replying To TheHermit:  "A very strange observation, if we have one thing it is quality forwards!
Hopefully Deegan will be alert and will react quickly to any off the ball stuff that might be used against the likes of Clifford, O'Shea, Genaey and O'Brien."
Hopefully he keeps an eye out for what might be done off the ball to Mc Shane,Mc Alliskey,Donnelly,Sludden,Coney,Mc Curry et al as well. Be nice if he did that...right :)

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 07/08/2019 03:51:56    2222010

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