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Thats a nonsense post and you know it too. The game development fund is massively variable year on year and is used to fund specific projects at the time. Maybe post all the rest of the funds available to Dublin if you want to provide an accurate reflection. How much is given by AIG? Its almost 1 million euro per year. 39K registered to a GAA club....More than the TOTAL population of Leitrim and Longford...and 2/3 the TOTAL population of Monaghan, Cavan, Roscommon, Sligo. Dublin have an advantage of population and money. Just accept it and move on. Gator (Monaghan) - Posts: 238 - 28/05/2019 16:53:57 2188562 Link 5 |
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2010: Kerry 1-10 v 1-12 Dublin Mayo 1-08 v 1-09 Dublin Cork 2-13 v 2-06 Dublin Tyrone 1-11 v 2-14 Dublin 2011: Armagh 1-11 v 2-12 Dublin Monaghan 1-09 v 0-13 Dublin Galway 0-15 v 2-09 Dublin 2012: Laois 1-09 v 1-14 Dublin Down 0-15 v 0-10 Dublin Mayo 0-20 v 0-08 Dublin Cork 1-12 v 0-12 Dublin 2013: (only found records of us playing 2 away games here, is that right ? Cork, Down, Kildare, Tyrone and mayo all at home? Kerry 0-04 (LOL) v 1-11 Dublin Donegal 1-10 v 0-13 Dublin 2014: Westmeath 1-07 v 0-14 Dublin Derry 1-16 v 0-13 Dublin Tyrone 1-15 v 3-10 Dublin 2015: Cork 1-15 v 0-16 Dublin Kerry 0-15 v 1-10 Dublin Mayo 0-10 v 2-18 Dublin Monaghan 1-11 v 1-22 Dublin 2016: Mayo 0-07 v 0-09 Dublin Down 1-07 v 1-15 Dublin Roscommon 1-12 v 1-13 Dublin Laois 2-10 v 2-21 Dublin (champ) 2017: Cavan 0-11 v 0-18 Dublin Donegal 2-5 v 1-08 Dublin Kerry 0-13 v 0-13 Dublin Monaghan 1-15 v 2-15 Dublin Carlow 0-07 v 0-19 Dublin (champ) 2018: Tyrone 1-11 v 2-13 Dublin Mayo 0-12 v 2-10 Dublin Galway 0-13 v 0-13 Dublin Wicklow 0-11 v 4-25 Dublin (champ) Tyrone 0-14 v 1-14 Dublin (champ) 2019: Monaghan 2-13 v 1-13 Dublin Kerry 1-18 v 2-14 Dublin Roscommon 1-12 v 2-14 Dublin Cavan 1-10 v 1-16 Dublin Louth 0-10 v 5-21 Dublin Played 39: Won - 25 Draw - 5 Lost - 9 Win rate 64.1% Expected a bit more to be honest!! waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13654 - 28/05/2019 17:32:54 2188564 Link 6 |
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Did you take a tumble off a swing lately by any chance ?
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 940 - 28/05/2019 17:38:15 2188566 Link 8 |
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Its not really when you compare it to the total population of other counties and registered players in fact its the worst in the country, in all honesty.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4503 - 28/05/2019 18:08:25 2188570 Link 6 |
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You are welcome to correct, i honestly posted my figures on GDM, the source is the GAA audited accounts you are welvcome to have a look at and populations are the census. Ill play the ball and not the man, if you want to challenge the figures you are welcome. Youve posted a lot of guff without backing up why the figures are inaugurate. You can see yorrself your own county gets a significant amout of GAA funding, in fact the best. I openly acknowledge they dont include sponsorship/commercial/fundraising money, Dublin are the best without doubt. Its a strong enabler and funds our senior team you will see mention that in every other post. The figures are in the public domain. a big shout out goes to Mayo though who only come in at slightly less then Dublin commercially/fundraising. Like i say lads, talk about all this money as an accepted narrative, but all you get is a defensive this cant be true response when you actually drill into the figures and put them in context. Im open minded, but am giving evidence. No point just throwing the toys out of the pram. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4503 - 28/05/2019 18:15:00 2188572 Link 7 |
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i was always smile, when lads resort to personal insult in a debate to prove a point, chicken dinner time.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4503 - 28/05/2019 18:16:02 2188574 Link 7 |
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I tried to read up on this as much as I could. My perception is that there is not exact formula. The money is used in a couple of different ways. Some of it is for infrastructure development. A large amount of it is for coaching initiatives. In Dublin a lot is spent on paying GDOs. These guys are needed to organize the sheer number of kids that are coming down to the largest of clubs. County boards and Provincial councils make a case as to what they require to promote their games. Dublin GAA needs people on the ground. Those saying give that money to other counties, how are they going to use that money. What works in Dublin a part of the country with a population density that completely exceeds every other area of the country will not work in a more rural county. https://www.gaa.ie/api/pdfs/image/upload/tstblikbtwvqfubdiwpe.pdf This is an interesting document on the work being done. Dublin definitely have benefited from the money the GAA has put into them. I don't think anything should be done about it. In case people aren't aware there are new kids born in Dublin every year. There's a cost associated with getting them out and playing our games. I think the association just have to pay it. The county game does suffer as a result but I mean what can you do. If one county dwarfs the rest in population and have their act together they are going to be at the top table. Inter county football is certainly high profile but it isn't the be all and end all of our games. This idea that people need to be in counties that can compete for All Ireland's is rubbish. There are plenty of people like me from weak counties who get loads out of the game. I really detest some of the moaning about Dublin on here. It's so resentful, it's petty, it's narrow minded and takes no consideration of all the good going into young children's lives in Dublin GAA clubs many of which are situated in some economically deprived parts of the country. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4506 - 28/05/2019 18:17:12 2188575 Link 12 |
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That's right , daughter of former dubs county board chairman.
KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 28/05/2019 18:58:23 2188589 Link 3 |
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personal insult So i was right you did fall of a swing while you had a bottle of wine in one hand and you were reaching with the other for your phone ? Never mind me TheUsername ..winner winner chicken dinner WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 940 - 28/05/2019 19:16:57 2188592 Link 7 |
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All Dubs are great with facts and figures ....sure they think we all came floating down the liffey in donuts
WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 940 - 28/05/2019 19:24:10 2188594 Link 8 |
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Fair play Whammo but expect the red thumb brigade. People don't like when you stray from the narrative that the Dubs sit on golden toilets, lift diamond weights & eat hand delivered meals from L'Ecrivain!
Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 28/05/2019 19:54:49 2188600 Link 4 |
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Just looking at the population stats is grim. The Dubs will have to be split north and south sooner or later. Even then they'll still have a huge advantage over everyone but cork in terms of population. Everything from population, to players, resources and finances stacked in one teams favour. Thank god for hurling and the decline of Kilkenny otherwise we'd need a new sport to follow. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 28/05/2019 19:55:12 2188601 Link 6 |
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Yerra nevermind the league, Mayo won it this year and has not done them any favours. Stats in the league do not matter at all. Regarding home games all the time in the championship, Dublin should refuse to accept them out of fairness to the other 33 participating counties. KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 28/05/2019 20:03:08 2188606 Link 2 |
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That's interesting username but didnt Dublin county board buy a plot of land in south Dublin for nine million euros last year! With shops and business's all ready on it and now ye are landlords so to speak. My question is if your county board can afford to do that then why do the gaa and the sports council of Ireland have to keep pumping money in to ye? Wouldn't that money be better off being pumped in to counties that need it?
gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 28/05/2019 20:53:12 2188621 Link 1 |
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The reason you admire louth so much is because they stood of ye and allowed dublin to look better then what they are, I bet the louth supporters warnt as impressed with there players efforts.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 710 - 28/05/2019 21:20:28 2188640 Link 1 |
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With respect you haven't a notion what your talking about.. Only the counties in Leinster are competing directly with Dublin, every other county has a chance of winning a provincial medal except Leinster counties because of every possible advantage being given to Dublin. Because of this a major portion of Longfords, Kildares, Laois Offaly and Meaths best players only commit for a couple of years before realising how futile the farce is and quit. Leaving each panel with massive player turnover.. This as much as anything is why the gap is widening every year. The rubbish you hear that its up to other counties to catch Dublin is utter crap. We would have every chance if all things were equal but you cant expect lads to hang around and give unreal commitment, with no chance of competing for, never mind winning any sort of champ medal when GAA HQ are hell bent on pumping cash in to one county only. I will leave this here.. To bring the 31 other counties up to the same level that GAA games development funding Dublin receive, per player, would mean an increase in budget from 3,133,907 EUR to a staggering 90,673,525.40 EUR. cuttothebone (Kildare) - Posts: 167 - 28/05/2019 21:36:54 2188648 Link 0 |
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I think the way most county boards fund their centers of excellence to be honest, I don't think the funding model is in the public domain, so I don't know for certain, so won't make it up. We are unlucky in a way because obviously a peace of land in South Dublin is going to cost significantly more then say one in Curran's. But hopefully developing the site will work out cheaper. I know we will get capital support from the GAA around that. The plans have been knocking around for beards must be over 15 years now and we've already had plans for a site in Rathcoole hit the skids. The leases on the property have been an annoyance as opposed to anything and the DCB have been very reluctant landlords, many have come to an end and some are on a month to month basis at the moment, until the site is developed. Hopefully that will be very shortly, be class when it's done. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4503 - 28/05/2019 22:01:35 2188658 Link 8 |
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Oh sorry just read the last piece of your post. Like I say the funding model for the spawell, isn't in the public domain, I've had a look and certainly can't see anything. From that point of view, I don't know, whether the DCB bought it (they've had finance ringfenced in the past for cheaper projects), finances it (borrowed) or the GAA bought the site, I just don't know, but would be interested. I don't see Dublin being unique to other county boards in having to fund this so it's possible, via land will be more expensive then any where else. To answer your question no, in my opinion if the ISC grant stopped tomorrow, the the GAA take the burden of funding Dublin, so Dublin would undoubtedly loose some finance, but could change their current funding model with clubs and with sponsorship be realituvely ok in austerity. I think it would have a knock on effect for other counties though. Essentially Dublin take .3 at mo from central funds in GDF, so everyone takes a collective hit if Dublin's ISC grant is cut, it won't be anyway. We aren't alone in receiving ISC grants either they fund other capital and coaching projects, I believe the GAA get 3 mill annually. Your own county got 7 mill last year in an ISC grant to develop the sports campus in Tralee, that's not a dig, it good money well spent and I wouldn't begrudge it. But let's keep it in mind when we hear tales of woes and straw horseing. I'd also have a similar opinion on the grants that went into the Curran's site. Totaling coincidently that 9 milll figure, what's the chances! ;) TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4503 - 28/05/2019 22:17:07 2188662 Link 8 |
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Again I'd have to disagree on the standing off peice can't remeber how many frees we won, check how much Cormac Costello got from the dead ball. I just really disagree with didn't lay on us. It didn't work. I'm on the road a long time, with this Dublin team, if you think mixing it with Dublin, laying a hand on them or getting in their faces is going to yield anything then a bad hammering, by all means teams are welcome to try. We eat that stuff for breakfast. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4503 - 28/05/2019 22:25:17 2188666 Link 8 |
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Mayo ? If history hadn't weighed so heavily on them should of won must of your tussles by getting in your faces.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 710 - 28/05/2019 23:13:28 2188682 Link 0 |