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Replying To supersub15: "Have you been a sleep with Rip Van Winkle or something, this is not going away you know, now go back to sleep." You'll have to be more clear, what isn't going away? What exactly is your point? Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 28/04/2019 19:20:44 2180706 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "Rte can sell adverts to cover free to air . People who have a licence wavier do not have to pay. Not that many subscribe to sky gaa anyway" Sure that's why Sky want the GAA deal. To improve exposure, try and sell more broadband packages to improve their market share. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7923 - 28/04/2019 21:20:24 2180718 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Sure that's why Sky want the GAA deal. To improve exposure, try and sell more broadband packages to improve their market share." Agree and to make money Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 28/04/2019 21:46:07 2180721 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "TV3 has no interest in them despite the fact that they previously showed them and bid for them when Sky won the rights the 1st time. These games are being broadcast because the GAA had decided to sell the rights to them." Wrong again. Sky have the rights cause they offered more money. Highest bidder. Are you suggesting that the gaa should have gone for less money?? Who would pay the dubs then?? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/04/2019 22:11:15 2180727 Link
Wrong again. Sky have the rights cause they offered more money. Highest bidder. Are you suggesting that the gaa should have gone for less money?? Who would pay the dubs then?? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14875 - 28/04/2019 22:11:15 Again, I'm right. TV3 have previously had the rights to GAA. And bid again when Sky won. That is all true. I don't understand what is so difficult for you to understand. Sky have the rights because the GAA decided to sell them the rights. I know this very simple piece of information has been very hard for you to understand but maybe this time it'll get through. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 28/04/2019 22:27:48 2180733 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Wrong again. Sky have the rights cause they offered more money. Highest bidder. Are you suggesting that the gaa should have gone for less money?? Who would pay the dubs then?? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14875 - 28/04/2019 22:11:15 Again, I'm right. TV3 have previously had the rights to GAA. And bid again when Sky won. That is all true. I don't understand what is so difficult for you to understand. Sky have the rights because the GAA decided to sell them the rights. I know this very simple piece of information has been very hard for you to understand but maybe this time it'll get through." Tv3 was free to air unlike sky Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 29/04/2019 04:05:31 2180741 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Wrong again. Sky have the rights cause they offered more money. Highest bidder. Are you suggesting that the gaa should have gone for less money?? Who would pay the dubs then?? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14875 - 28/04/2019 22:11:15 Again, I'm right. TV3 have previously had the rights to GAA. And bid again when Sky won. That is all true. I don't understand what is so difficult for you to understand. Sky have the rights because the GAA decided to sell them the rights. I know this very simple piece of information has been very hard for you to understand but maybe this time it'll get through." So you are saying the gaa sold the rights to a lower bidder than tv3. And that sky weren't the highest bidder. ?? Answer that. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/04/2019 08:15:49 2180744 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "Agree and to make money" But sure all businesses have to make money, the other option is to lose money, in which case you're out of business. Is it the price that's the issue? The gender balance? I still don't know what's causing all the outrage. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/04/2019 08:31:35 2180745 Link
Replying To Htaem: "You'll have to be more clear, what isn't going away? What exactly is your point?" - - - the subject matter and the politics that go with it. supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 3163 - 29/04/2019 08:53:47 2180748 Link
Replying To supersub15: "- - - the subject matter and the politics that go with it." I see. Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/04/2019 09:37:34 2180753 Link
So you are saying the gaa sold the rights to a lower bidder than tv3. And that sky weren't the highest bidder. ?? Answer that. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14877 - 29/04/2019 08:15:49 No, I'm not saying that. Read more carefully. What I wrote was quite clear. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 29/04/2019 12:03:44 2180786 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "So you are saying the gaa sold the rights to a lower bidder than tv3. And that sky weren't the highest bidder. ?? Answer that. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14877 - 29/04/2019 08:15:49 No, I'm not saying that. Read more carefully. What I wrote was quite clear." What you wrote is that gaa decided to sell to sky. Yet you admit that they were the highest bidder. Therefore what you are advocating is that regardless of who bid what the gaa should have given it to tv3 as then the likes of you would see it for free, to hell with who pays more eh?? Once the skinflints get their free to air, very commieesque do you not think?? So once we know that virgin media can offer 50 quid next time and no matter what sky offers it has to go to virgin cause of the likes of you?? No thanks , plenty of county grounds and clubs need funding outside of Dublin, and in any business dealings (tv rights are a business) the highest bidder wins. And long may that continue. Here's a idea. Write to virgin media and ask them to outbid sky Ireland. Until then just accept that the best and most lucrative offer won the rights to show the games. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/04/2019 12:18:57 2180799 Link
Replying To Htaem: "But sure all businesses have to make money, the other option is to lose money, in which case you're out of business. Is it the price that's the issue? The gender balance? I still don't know what's causing all the outrage." Why do you think I am angry? Life is not all about miney- you cannot take with you! What is your problem with having more females involved? Sky means you have to pay more money. Tv3 means free to air. I note fewer people are going to the games anyway. The game is in a bad state Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 29/04/2019 12:36:36 2180803 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "Why do you think I am angry? Life is not all about miney- you cannot take with you! What is your problem with having more females involved? Sky means you have to pay more money. Tv3 means free to air. I note fewer people are going to the games anyway. The game is in a bad state" All the more reason to sell to highest bidder. I can tell you if gaa sold to lowest bidder that would make them in same league as fai. With everyone rightly questioning why they under selling our game. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/04/2019 12:54:14 2180806 Link
Replying To Bernardo: "Why do you think I am angry? Life is not all about miney- you cannot take with you! What is your problem with having more females involved? Sky means you have to pay more money. Tv3 means free to air. I note fewer people are going to the games anyway. The game is in a bad state" No you can't take it with you but for a business to survive it has to make money, you can only go so far on good will. No problem with females at all, I know a few of them actually, they're dacent oul skins. But I'm also a believer in the best person gets the job regardless of their sex organs, would you not agree? Yes Sky costs more, that appears to be your main concern, if that's the case then fine, own it. Are fewer people attending games? I honestly don't know what the average attendence figures are, or how they've changed over the last 10-20 years. If they are dropping (which they may well be) I suspect there are many different reasons for that, but you could hardly pin all that on Sky! As for the game being in 'a bad state', I disagree, I think it could do a lot better and certainly the Gaa could promote it better and run a far better championship but it's not dying on it's knees! Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/04/2019 12:59:06 2180808 Link
What you wrote is that gaa decided to sell to sky. Yet you admit that they were the highest bidder. Therefore what you are advocating is that regardless of who bid what the gaa should have given it to tv3 as then the likes of you would see it for free, to hell with who pays more eh?? Once the skinflints get their free to air, very commieesque do you not think?? So once we know that virgin media can offer 50 quid next time and no matter what sky offers it has to go to virgin cause of the likes of you?? No thanks , plenty of county grounds and clubs need funding outside of Dublin, and in any business dealings (tv rights are a business) the highest bidder wins. And long may that continue. Here's a idea. Write to virgin media and ask them to outbid sky Ireland. Until then just accept that the best and most lucrative offer won the rights to show the games. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14879 - 29/04/2019 12:18:57 No, I'm not advocating that no matter what the GAA should give the rights to Virgin Media no matter how low their bid is. Read more carefully in future. What I wrote was quite clear and easy to understand. I'm not quite sure why it has been so challenging for you to understand. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13795 - 29/04/2019 13:12:57 2180810 Link
Was one reason given for going with the Sky deal not that it will promote GAA abroad? Are there any figures to see progress there? Why not go along those lines and promote the games to hundreds if thousands tourists coming here every year to experience our great country and our culture. Plenty of games with empty seats every year for our great games of hurling and football. Even a few thousand more at games would boost GAA funds, put a few more quid in the tills if local businesses and VAT returns for Pascal. A sort of return from government grands funded by taxpayers. The lads on the Golden Goose in Croke Park love trotting out the 'money going back to grassroots' line but don't seem bothered when they could make better efforts to have more at games. Maybe give some clubs from participating counties a chance to boost attendance's and give them a share of any extra money made. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7923 - 29/04/2019 13:22:14 2180811 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "What you wrote is that gaa decided to sell to sky. Yet you admit that they were the highest bidder. Therefore what you are advocating is that regardless of who bid what the gaa should have given it to tv3 as then the likes of you would see it for free, to hell with who pays more eh?? Once the skinflints get their free to air, very commieesque do you not think?? So once we know that virgin media can offer 50 quid next time and no matter what sky offers it has to go to virgin cause of the likes of you?? No thanks , plenty of county grounds and clubs need funding outside of Dublin, and in any business dealings (tv rights are a business) the highest bidder wins. And long may that continue. Here's a idea. Write to virgin media and ask them to outbid sky Ireland. Until then just accept that the best and most lucrative offer won the rights to show the games. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14879 - 29/04/2019 12:18:57 No, I'm not advocating that no matter what the GAA should give the rights to Virgin Media no matter how low their bid is. Read more carefully in future. What I wrote was quite clear and easy to understand. I'm not quite sure why it has been so challenging for you to understand." Then you are happy that the gaa HAD to sell the rights to sky, as effectively the decision was taken out of their hands as sky had offered the highest bid. So you have no issues with sky having the rights?? So what's your problem then?? May I just add your argument keeps changing and is about as clear as mud, as you have no grounds to stand on, I'll summarize ur argument. 1,You want free to air, but you want the highest bid to win, so if sky are highest bid free to air is gone, nullifying ur first argument. 2, You accuse the gaa of "deciding " to sell to sky , as if there was something untoward about it, when in reality the gaa had no choice, as it was put to tender and as is the LEGALLY correct course of action the HIGHEST bidder won. So no deciding by gaa at all 3, you then say that the should sell to highest bidder but you don't want them to sell to sky, regardless of them been the highest bidder or not. To summarize, from my point of view, you really don't care who shows the matches once it's not sky as you have something personal against them, it can't be that they are a English company (actually Aussie owned) but it can't be that as virgin are also a English owned company (Richard Branson) . So it must be that you don't want to pay for them. Again i say to you write to mr Branson and ask him to outbid sky next time it comes up for renewal, however when the sky deal was extended the then tv3 offered substantially less than even they had paid before. So good luck with that, as they seem to have their eyes firmly set on rugby and soccer. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/04/2019 13:33:07 2180814 Link
Replying To Htaem: "No you can't take it with you but for a business to survive it has to make money, you can only go so far on good will. No problem with females at all, I know a few of them actually, they're dacent oul skins. But I'm also a believer in the best person gets the job regardless of their sex organs, would you not agree? Yes Sky costs more, that appears to be your main concern, if that's the case then fine, own it. Are fewer people attending games? I honestly don't know what the average attendence figures are, or how they've changed over the last 10-20 years. If they are dropping (which they may well be) I suspect there are many different reasons for that, but you could hardly pin all that on Sky! As for the game being in 'a bad state', I disagree, I think it could do a lot better and certainly the Gaa could promote it better and run a far better championship but it's not dying on it's knees!" Sky was brought in mainly to promote gaa aboard. I do not really care if the gaa want to go professional. But as long as it boast about community values then the games should be free yo air. I do not really care if a man or women is on the show. But when you see 12 men one women in the 21st century it does look strange. The super eights are anything but super. So I will leave like this, I can afford sky but will not get it because I think of a few older neighbours who give so much to the gaa and cannot afford sky. Solidarity it is called Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 29/04/2019 13:57:41 2180821 Link
Replying To royaldunne: " Replying To MesAmis: "What you wrote is that gaa decided to sell to sky. Yet you admit that they were the highest bidder. Therefore what you are advocating is that regardless of who bid what the gaa should have given it to tv3 as then the likes of you would see it for free, to hell with who pays more eh?? Once the skinflints get their free to air, very commieesque do you not think?? So once we know that virgin media can offer 50 quid next time and no matter what sky offers it has to go to virgin cause of the likes of you?? No thanks , plenty of county grounds and clubs need funding outside of Dublin, and in any business dealings (tv rights are a business) the highest bidder wins. And long may that continue. Here's a idea. Write to virgin media and ask them to outbid sky Ireland. Until then just accept that the best and most lucrative offer won the rights to show the games. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 14879 - 29/04/2019 12:18:57 No, I'm not advocating that no matter what the GAA should give the rights to Virgin Media no matter how low their bid is. Read more carefully in future. What I wrote was quite clear and easy to understand. I'm not quite sure why it has been so challenging for you to understand." Then you are happy that the gaa HAD to sell the rights to sky, as effectively the decision was taken out of their hands as sky had offered the highest bid. So you have no issues with sky having the rights?? So what's your problem then?? May I just add your argument keeps changing and is about as clear as mud, as you have no grounds to stand on, I'll summarize ur argument. 1,You want free to air, but you want the highest bid to win, so if sky are highest bid free to air is gone, nullifying ur first argument. 2, You accuse the gaa of "deciding " to sell to sky , as if there was something untoward about it, when in reality the gaa had no choice, as it was put to tender and as is the LEGALLY correct course of action the HIGHEST bidder won. So no deciding by gaa at all 3, you then say that the should sell to highest bidder but you don't want them to sell to sky, regardless of them been the highest bidder or not. To summarize, from my point of view, you really don't care who shows the matches once it's not sky as you have something personal against them, it can't be that they are a English company (actually Aussie owned) but it can't be that as virgin are also a English owned company (Richard Branson) . So it must be that you don't want to pay for them. Again i say to you write to mr Branson and ask him to outbid sky next time it comes up for renewal, however when the sky deal was extended the then tv3 offered substantially less than even they had paid before. So good luck with that, as they seem to have their eyes firmly set on rugby and soccer." Ad long as it is free to air then I do not care who have the rights Bernardo (Monaghan) - Posts: 611 - 29/04/2019 14:10:20 2180825 Link