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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Made my predictions already ;)"
didn't see them but makes for a great championship......i guess ye are hoping davy had the handbrake on against galway in the league semi final.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 08/05/2019 13:24:50    2182472

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Surprised that Limerick were not more hyped up this year, before league semi they were still 5/1 for AI.
They have done all asked since, there seems to have been no over-celebrating amongst players, steady manager, perfect age-profile of a team, so imo they should be warm favs for the AI. Would have them alot more likely than Galway.
Factors against: tougher draw in munster with 3 games in a row culminating in the Tipp game where Tipp will have had a break
Plus hard to retain AI's!!
But will defeinitely get out of Munster and as I said favs for the AI without question even if the bookies dont agree.
Tipp,Lim,Cork are my 3.

PremierGold (Tipperary) - Posts: 121 - 08/05/2019 13:50:38    2182481

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Think the league counts for F all to be honest

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 08/05/2019 14:44:08    2182496

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "didn't see them but makes for a great championship......i guess ye are hoping davy had the handbrake on against galway in the league semi final."
I think the League counts for F all to be honest.

Can't understand Limericks approach. Maybe i'll be wrong but history has shown how hard it is to keep standards up for a sustained period of time. Only exceptional teams can do it and as i've said before i don't think the current Limerick team is exceptional in the manner KK were in late 2000's or even Cork were in mid 2000's.

That's not to take away from what they've achieved, it's just my take on what will happen down the line.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 08/05/2019 14:57:52    2182501

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What are the chances of each game being won by the home team and all five teams finishing on 4 points?

I think at least one position will be decided on head to head or scoring differences.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 08/05/2019 16:09:01    2182532

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "I think the League counts for F all to be honest.

Can't understand Limericks approach. Maybe i'll be wrong but history has shown how hard it is to keep standards up for a sustained period of time. Only exceptional teams can do it and as i've said before i don't think the current Limerick team is exceptional in the manner KK were in late 2000's or even Cork were in mid 2000's.

That's not to take away from what they've achieved, it's just my take on what will happen down the line."
so what approach do you think limerick should be taking.......getting a hiding like ye did in the league semi final, do you think we'd be going into the championship in better shape if we had been beat 10 points by dublin in the league semi final.....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 08/05/2019 16:12:31    2182534

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "What are the chances of each game being won by the home team and all five teams finishing on 4 points?

I think at least one position will be decided on head to head or scoring differences."
Think that's a strong possibility but wouldn't surprise me either if 3 teams end up on 2 points.
Both provincial championships should be absolutely crackers and looking forward to getting to as many games as possible.

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 08/05/2019 16:19:16    2182540

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "so what approach do you think limerick should be taking.......getting a hiding like ye did in the league semi final, do you think we'd be going into the championship in better shape if we had been beat 10 points by dublin in the league semi final....."
Who cares about the league??? I think they should have reserved energy and focused solely on retaining the All Ireland as opposed to going for the league flat out. 10-12 starters played in every game? I don't get that approach at all, and i'm purely relying on history to back up my theory but again i could be proven wrong.
What are your predictions for Munster?

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 08/05/2019 16:48:11    2182545

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Cork
Limerick
Waterford
Clare ( to run the top 3 very close)
Tipperary.

Tipp are a fine team but in terms of an arc Tipp are further off the peak than the others.

Years of supporting Limerick have led me to be very weary of making assumptions on them. They could build on league form and go wild or flop bad.

Cork the same other way around. But I feel we will see last year AI form not 2019 league.

Waterford will be somewhere in between 2017 and 2018 form and much like we saw in the league which will see them scrape through

Clare are a greatteam and clould easily have had Liam last year but someone has to lose out.

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 08/05/2019 17:43:10    2182560

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The clash of timber on timber. Stick on stick. 15 men on 15 men who are slapping balls, over the bar and into the net. Lads going in hard with pure manic aggression with the sweat pouring out of them. That's hard and fast hurling, no man can feel soft after seeing such intense action.
I often think Christy Ring would decry the lack of play on the ground nowadays though. Seeing a man stroke the shaft of his stick and with a cute flick of the wrists bury the ball into his opponent's net. That's Munster hurling, yeah that's it right there.

RadioactiveTan (UK) - Posts: 28 - 08/05/2019 17:44:36    2182561

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Who cares about the league??? I think they should have reserved energy and focused solely on retaining the All Ireland as opposed to going for the league flat out. 10-12 starters played in every game? I don't get that approach at all, and i'm purely relying on history to back up my theory but again i could be proven wrong.
What are your predictions for Munster?"
its a national title and nothing to be laughed at....john kiely is of the same mentality as brian cody you win every competiton you are involved in. limerick went all out for the league last year and got beat in the semi final after extra time by tipp and had a marathon game before that with clare in the quarter final before that, which was decided by 65's ...it didn't affect our championship performances afterwards. wexford havn't won a national league for nearly 50 yrs do you think all the wexford supporters say at the start of the league each year who cares about the league theres only 2 national titles up for grabs each year.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 08/05/2019 18:24:38    2182570

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Ya and then ye had a long summer and another long league, I think you's should of taken it easier but time will tell.
I would say 80% of Wexford fans genuinely don't care about the league as long as we are relatively competitive, which we were. It's all about championship really. Also bringing up records is a petty way at making an argument. Give you're predictions, put you're own neck on the line and be grown up about it if people don't think limerick are going to win every game they are ever going to play going forward!!

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 08/05/2019 19:46:19    2182587

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Ya and then ye had a long summer and another long league, I think you's should of taken it easier but time will tell.
I would say 80% of Wexford fans genuinely don't care about the league as long as we are relatively competitive, which we were. It's all about championship really. Also bringing up records is a petty way at making an argument. Give you're predictions, put you're own neck on the line and be grown up about it if people don't think limerick are going to win every game they are ever going to play going forward!!"
i'm sure joe o connor who an expert in fitness knows what he is doing as he is a small bit more qualified than you.....he will have limerick in tiptop shape for the championship. he has won all irelands with 2 different counties. bringing up records is not been petty, wexford have nothing won for yrs and yet you sneer at the league by saying who cares about the league. my predictions are clare, cork and limerick. and leinster galway kilkenny and dublin thats how paddy power sees leinster going too.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 08/05/2019 20:07:57    2182590

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Replying To Ej:  "Think that's a strong possibility but wouldn't surprise me either if 3 teams end up on 2 points.
Both provincial championships should be absolutely crackers and looking forward to getting to as many games as possible."
Yeah the draws last year made the final table in Munster look a little funny and avoided teams finishing on the same points. I can't see that happening again this year.

The next 6 - 8 weeks will be a festival of hurling. Enjoy all the games you attend.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 09/05/2019 04:04:10    2182634

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "i'm sure joe o connor who an expert in fitness knows what he is doing as he is a small bit more qualified than you.....he will have limerick in tiptop shape for the championship. he has won all irelands with 2 different counties. bringing up records is not been petty, wexford have nothing won for yrs and yet you sneer at the league by saying who cares about the league. my predictions are clare, cork and limerick. and leinster galway kilkenny and dublin thats how paddy power sees leinster going too."
That's fine, look through the history books and you'll see where i'm getting my opinion from. Na Piarsiagh in club hurling are a classic example this year.
Ya well personally i'd rather 1 All Ireland than 10 leagues but thats neither here nor there.
Anyway you seem too sensitive to have a proper debate about it. The anti-Wexford thing is a bit sad.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 09/05/2019 08:28:38    2182646

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "That's fine, look through the history books and you'll see where i'm getting my opinion from. Na Piarsiagh in club hurling are a classic example this year.
Ya well personally i'd rather 1 All Ireland than 10 leagues but thats neither here nor there.
Anyway you seem too sensitive to have a proper debate about it. The anti-Wexford thing is a bit sad."
Re NAP. Only one from that club started on the Limerick Team last Year and nobody in the Tipp game. They had beaten Ballygunner on 3 or 4 occasions but always after a dogfight and the sides went to extra time the previous year. They were bound to be beaten by a quality Ballygunner team sometime.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4316 - 09/05/2019 12:21:43    2182701

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "That's fine, look through the history books and you'll see where i'm getting my opinion from. Na Piarsiagh in club hurling are a classic example this year.
Ya well personally i'd rather 1 All Ireland than 10 leagues but thats neither here nor there.
Anyway you seem too sensitive to have a proper debate about it. The anti-Wexford thing is a bit sad."
not anti wexford what i'm trying to say is when your county havnt won a major trophy is yrs a league title is nothing to be laughed at....

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 09/05/2019 13:20:31    2182722

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Who cares about the league??? I think they should have reserved energy and focused solely on retaining the All Ireland as opposed to going for the league flat out. 10-12 starters played in every game? I don't get that approach at all, and i'm purely relying on history to back up my theory but again i could be proven wrong.
What are your predictions for Munster?"
wex supporters not care for league title?
damn glad of it if they were able to win it.... alas not to be anytime soon
youre misrepresenting people and facts pal
havent a clue

jonnyhogan (Tipperary) - Posts: 54 - 09/05/2019 15:16:55    2182761

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Replying To jonnyhogan:  "wex supporters not care for league title?
damn glad of it if they were able to win it.... alas not to be anytime soon
youre misrepresenting people and facts pal
havent a clue"
The way the championship is now i don't think they would johnny to be honest, but sure sounds like you know more than me. Be nice to win alright but that would genuinely be about it. Like winning a league title with a club, counts for F all at the end of the day.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 09/05/2019 15:45:10    2182767

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Replying To jonnyhogan:  "wex supporters not care for league title?
damn glad of it if they were able to win it.... alas not to be anytime soon
youre misrepresenting people and facts pal
havent a clue"
Jonny..... how many all Ireland medals have you got in your home?
The person you are stating that hasn't got a clue has one more than you. He's just to modest to boast about it

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 09/05/2019 16:49:24    2182782

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