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Replying To Ej:  "Clare to win Munster, beaten finalists Tipp, Limerick to get third. Both 'provincial' championships look tasty affairs. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Kilkenny don't make it through in Leinster"
The fixture schedule in Munster hasn't been kind to Clare and Limerick, only teams in both provinces to play 3 consecutive weekends. For that reason I think Clare won't get out of Munster, I think they'll lose in walsh park, beat tipp in ennis and lose in the Gaelic grounds, given the schedule cork last up will be a tough assignment even in ennis.

I think limerick could lose there last game away to tipp but there business could be done by that point with 3 wins already in the bag.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/04/2019 01:04:14    2180319

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Replying To wexico15:  "Did I ever say limerick were lucky to win the all Ireland? No ye deserved your hard earned title.
I said there were small margins like 95% of all Ireland wins and if any supporters think there team is way ahead of the chasing pack heads are in the clouds.

Alot of the limerick posters here are overly sensitive and take an observation or opinion as a personal attack. Suppose you brought of 96, Gary Kirby etc. here in a discussion a few months ago so that says alot about your maturity"
Just because somebody wants to debate against a point or opinion doesn't mean they're over sensitive. This is what forums are for.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 26/04/2019 05:19:40    2180322

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "i posted the below back before Joe Canning got injured but i'm sticking to it until im proven wrong -

I think Galway will win All Ireland easy enough to be honest - they lost by a point last year after playing for about 20 mins and gifting Limerick 3 goals.

Team Predictions as follows:
Galway - AI Champions, most talent, will make amends for last year.
Cork - Beaten finalists - Will score heavily but lack of a full back will catch up eventually.
Clare - Semi Final - beaten by Galway - Will be entertaining and competitive but no Reidy, McGrath & off pace O'Donnell will leave squad bare and any injury will scupper plans greatly.
Wexford - Semi Final - Beaten by cork - Poor Leinster campaign, struggle over Dublin in 1st round and lose to KK and Galway. Will Surprise everybody when short passing sweeper system begins to rack up high scores but will lose to Cork in classic semi final.
Kilkenny - 1/4 Final - Deep panel but will stumble due to lack of top class players in 1/4 final - will die with their boots on and give all. TJ to be a bit player from play. Full back to be a massive issue all year.
Limerick - Will storm Munster early and be favorites for Munster Final where they will be trimmed by fast cork team. Wheels will fall off against Wexford where they will be shocked by 6points plus with wexford getting last 5 scores.

Waterford - Lose to clare in classic that eliminates them from Munster. Lack of forwards to tell.
Tipp - Wooden spoon - Pace of senior players greatly exposed. Callanan to be dropped by third Munster Game
Dublin - Valiant efforts against Wexford and KK - Eoghan O Donnell to get an all star."
Galway without Joe Canning, Jor Cooney and Glynn aren't going to win anything easily but of course, they are still contenders.

blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 26/04/2019 05:23:35    2180323

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "Big statement. Is the fact that ye won not enough for you? If the 2 players in our fb line hadnt been injured do you think that might have made a difference too? Remember the old saying: "if was never in a true sentence"."
Galway won the previous year and Waterford had fairly serious injury and suspension problems. However there was no talk, or definitely none I heard about Decies woes. The fact is their problems had nothing with Galway ,who were worthy champions in 2017. They were the last men standing. We have people in Limerick too who were making excuses for the past 45 years, when in fact we were always beaten by better teams, hard though that was to admit.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 26/04/2019 09:48:35    2180334

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Replying To blackspot91:  "Galway without Joe Canning, Jor Cooney and Glynn aren't going to win anything easily but of course, they are still contenders."
I did make that prediction before Canning got injured. I'd back Cork if Joe doesn't make it back in any sort of shape. Very close last two years and have strengthened the panel this year so they'd be my alternative pick.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 26/04/2019 11:00:07    2180349

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Replying To blackspot91:  "Just because somebody wants to debate against a point or opinion doesn't mean they're over sensitive. This is what forums are for."
Here's the difference I stated there was small margins between limerick and cork in last years semi final which there blatantly was. The reply ' you said cork were better than limerick' . I never said that, that's been overly defensive/sensitive or whatever you want to call it.

The difference couple of limerick posters stated wexford will finish 4th in leinster, could be right could be wrong there's very little between Dublin, wexford and kilkenny time will tell. Did you see any wexford poster berating them over there remarks, no.

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 26/04/2019 11:08:17    2180351

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Ban
Cork are consistent in Munster, but they are also consistent in Croke Park- Lost heavily to Waterford in 17 and Limerick, in the end, last year. Lost to Clare in 13 and Tipp 14 also with quite a few of current panel involved. I would be slow to back them for outright success."
To be fair you may have a point. However I'd polenta outvthat thecsame thing would have been levelled at Limerick before last years break through.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 26/04/2019 11:39:48    2180360

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Replying To BaldyBadger:  "To be fair you may have a point. However I'd polenta outvthat thecsame thing would have been levelled at Limerick before last years break through."
That is a point well made. However, I thought though they 9Cork) played well they seemed to lack physicality in vital positions and especially in Croke Park v Limerick seemed to run of steam due to having to play an energy sapping high running game for the first sixty minutes. The lack of a deep panel was also in evidence especially when an injured Harnedy had to be brought back on. With a few alterations however they could be right back in contention. In regard to Limerick last year most of us would be in agreement at years start with a comment made by the U21 trainer of '17. I saw Pat Donnelly on leaving a club game in Limerick, a few weeks after that win, and asked him what was the chances of Limerick breaking through. 'They could win the All Ireland in 2020' was his reply. Nobody had much of an inkling they would have done it two years earlier.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 26/04/2019 12:20:54    2180379

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Be interesting to see what the powers that be decide to do to the championship format if a team loses three games in Munster, qualifies for a quarter final and then eventually become all Ireland champions.
I know it's not likely.
As a bit of a tradionalist I would like to see a straight final of the 'provincial' champions. The old argument that teams train for months on end and may only play once or twice is dead.
Of course it could never happen as making money is Paramount....just look at the bs that is the 'super' 8 in football

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 26/04/2019 12:44:49    2180388

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "I did make that prediction before Canning got injured. I'd back Cork if Joe doesn't make it back in any sort of shape. Very close last two years and have strengthened the panel this year so they'd be my alternative pick."
how have cork strengthend the panel this year and dont mention aidan walsh 29 and steven mcdonnell 30 ...both of those have been there for the last the last 8 or 9 yrs ........but through injury and playing football have been on and off.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 26/04/2019 12:52:28    2180390

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Ban
Cork are consistent in Munster, but they are also consistent in Croke Park- Lost heavily to Waterford in 17 and Limerick, in the end, last year. Lost to Clare in 13 and Tipp 14 also with quite a few of current panel involved. I would be slow to back them for outright success."
To be fair you may have a point. However I'd polenta outvthat thecsame thing would have been levelled at Limerick before last years break through.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 26/04/2019 13:03:45    2180391

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Be interesting to see what the powers that be decide to do to the championship format if a team loses three games in Munster, qualifies for a quarter final and then eventually become all Ireland champions.
I know it's not likely.
As a bit of a tradionalist I would like to see a straight final of the 'provincial' champions. The old argument that teams train for months on end and may only play once or twice is dead.
Of course it could never happen as making money is Paramount....just look at the bs that is the 'super' 8 in football

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 26/04/2019 13:07:32    2180394

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "how have cork strengthend the panel this year and dont mention aidan walsh 29 and steven mcdonnell 30 ...both of those have been there for the last the last 8 or 9 yrs ........but through injury and playing football have been on and off."
Alan Cadogan, Dan Dooley, Cormac Murphy, Declan Dalton, Conor Cahalane, Rob Downey, Aidan Walsh and Steven McDonnell are players off the top of my head that are available to Cork this year that were not available last year. They'd have to add something to a panel in my opinion.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 26/04/2019 14:46:59    2180416

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Aidan Walsh,Cadogan and McDonnell are good...the rest are untried ..

bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 26/04/2019 15:08:52    2180422

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Alan Cadogan, Dan Dooley, Cormac Murphy, Declan Dalton, Conor Cahalane, Rob Downey, Aidan Walsh and Steven McDonnell are players off the top of my head that are available to Cork this year that were not available last year. They'd have to add something to a panel in my opinion."
Point taken Larry, but there are new players coming on to every panel, for example O'Loughlin, Boylan and O'Meara have come on in Limerick. I would point out too that Dan Dooley, Aidan Walsh and Stephen McDonnell are all around 30 and Rob Downey and Conor Cahalane have yet to prove themselves on the big day. Having said that of course everything could fall into place for them, but I still think they have a bit to go. I just feel Clare, Waterford and Tipp are all as big a threat as Cork are.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 26/04/2019 18:30:23    2180466

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I know this is a Munster Forum but does anybody have any update on Eoin Murphys injury? He'd be a massive loss to Kilkenny.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 29/04/2019 12:02:58    2180785

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Clare, Waterford and Cork to come out of Munster with Tipp a possible dark horse!!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2192 - 29/04/2019 14:17:53    2180829

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Replying To katser:  "Clare, Waterford and Cork to come out of Munster with Tipp a possible dark horse!!"
I really don't know if you're amusing or to be pitied with this weird anti-Limerick thing you have going on.

Too predictable at this stage.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1056 - 29/04/2019 15:48:54    2180848

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Its always dangerous to write off the big 3 Cork are not far away last year puck off a ball super save you know the story they will have found a player or two id say have some serious hurlers well able to mix it too.

Kilkenny have the Ballyhale Shamrocks to come back so dont discard them with so many super hurlers in Tipp they can always deliver.

Waterford have home games this year it will matter

Id say Say Limerick/Cork/Waterford from Munster
Galway/Kilkenny and an improving Dublin in Leinster

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 878 - 29/04/2019 16:10:54    2180860

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Replying To skillet:  "I really don't know if you're amusing or to be pitied with this weird anti-Limerick thing you have going on.

Too predictable at this stage."
Maybe ye are too easy to wind up...

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 29/04/2019 16:53:52    2180871

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