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Replying To munsterchamps: "beat tipp by 6 in round one.
drew with cork in round 2 with 14 men.
beat waterford 13 points round 3.
lost to clare round 4.
beat carlow by 24 points next round.
beat kilkenny by 2 ( after making an allstar out of eoin murphy)
beat cork in semi by 4.
beat galway by a point after been 9 up heading into injury time in final.
i'd be thinking its begrudgery myself.
all the pundits say limerick won the greatest all ireland ever." link
Anthony Daly knows a bit about hurling and he seemed fairly impressed!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7324 - 25/04/2019 18:28:16
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Replying To munsterchamps: "beat tipp by 6 in round one.
drew with cork in round 2 with 14 men.
beat waterford 13 points round 3.
lost to clare round 4.
beat carlow by 24 points next round.
beat kilkenny by 2 ( after making an allstar out of eoin murphy)
beat cork in semi by 4.
beat galway by a point after been 9 up heading into injury time in final.
i'd be thinking its begrudgery myself.
all the pundits say limerick won the greatest all ireland ever." I never said you didn't deserve to win. Every team needs a bit of luck to win! Lose the paranoia.
Read my original post and comment on some of the other teams or perhaps be brave enough to make your own predictions.
LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 25/04/2019 18:39:01
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Replying To munsterchamps: "beat tipp by 6 in round one.
drew with cork in round 2 with 14 men.
beat waterford 13 points round 3.
lost to clare round 4.
beat carlow by 24 points next round.
beat kilkenny by 2 ( after making an allstar out of eoin murphy)
beat cork in semi by 4.
beat galway by a point after been 9 up heading into injury time in final.
i'd be thinking its begrudgery myself.
all the pundits say limerick won the greatest all ireland ever." Kilkenny hit 15-20 wides in that game so that and Murphy's brilliance sort of cancelled each other out, 2 point win for ye was about right. Cork it went to extra time so that was actually a draw technically and ye were 6 down with 10 mins to go and quaid's brilliant block as I mentioned stopped a certain cork win. That is small margins in knock out games in any language...
Wouldn't call it begrudgery more so you've a chip on your shoulder
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/04/2019 19:15:34
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Limerick, Clare and Tipp to come through. Cork and Waterford for the wooden spoon
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Replying To wexico15: "Kilkenny hit 15-20 wides in that game so that and Murphy's brilliance sort of cancelled each other out, 2 point win for ye was about right. Cork it went to extra time so that was actually a draw technically and ye were 6 down with 10 mins to go and quaid's brilliant block as I mentioned stopped a certain cork win. That is small margins in knock out games in any language...
Wouldn't call it begrudgery more so you've a chip on your shoulder" Have you any idea why Kilkenny hit all those wides. Would it have anything to do with the fact that they were closely marked and forced to shoot from far out. You should also remember that in Nowlan Park the previous year the KK starting full forward was held scoreless from play by the Limerick full back line. The simple fact is Wexford, Cork Kilkenny and even Galway have all won touch and go All Irelands and most people, in those years, just hailed the champions, as most people did this year as well.. Trying to make out that Cork were somehow a better team is a joke as they were six points up after getting a very soft goal (Dan Morrissey misjudged the flight of a ball he would have easily cleared). In the last eight minutes and over extra time Limerick outscored Cork by ten points. Also remember this was a young inexperienced Limerick and most of the teams they played in the closing stages of the championship had way more big match experience. As regards Quaids save several goalies have made equally important and match winning saves-that is what All Ireland winning goalies too. As a matter of fact the other Limerick born goalie that was playing that day has won several close games for his adopted county.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 25/04/2019 20:57:24
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Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Limerick, Clare and Tipp to come through. Cork and Waterford for the wooden spoon" Clare to win Munster, beaten finalists Tipp, Limerick to get third. Both 'provincial' championships look tasty affairs. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Kilkenny don't make it through in Leinster
Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 25/04/2019 21:04:43
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Have you any idea why Kilkenny hit all those wides. Would it have anything to do with the fact that they were closely marked and forced to shoot from far out. You should also remember that in Nowlan Park the previous year the KK starting full forward was held scoreless from play by the Limerick full back line. The simple fact is Wexford, Cork Kilkenny and even Galway have all won touch and go All Irelands and most people, in those years, just hailed the champions, as most people did this year as well.. Trying to make out that Cork were somehow a better team is a joke as they were six points up after getting a very soft goal (Dan Morrissey misjudged the flight of a ball he would have easily cleared). In the last eight minutes and over extra time Limerick outscored Cork by ten points. Also remember this was a young inexperienced Limerick and most of the teams they played in the closing stages of the championship had way more big match experience. As regards Quaids save several goalies have made equally important and match winning saves-that is what All Ireland winning goalies too. As a matter of fact the other Limerick born goalie that was playing that day has won several close games for his adopted county." Did I ever say limerick were lucky to win the all Ireland? No ye deserved your hard earned title.
I said there were small margins like 95% of all Ireland wins and if any supporters think there team is way ahead of the chasing pack heads are in the clouds.
Alot of the limerick posters here are overly sensitive and take an observation or opinion as a personal attack. Suppose you brought of 96, Gary Kirby etc. here in a discussion a few months ago so that says alot about your maturity
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/04/2019 21:23:49
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Have you any idea why Kilkenny hit all those wides. Would it have anything to do with the fact that they were closely marked and forced to shoot from far out. You should also remember that in Nowlan Park the previous year the KK starting full forward was held scoreless from play by the Limerick full back line. The simple fact is Wexford, Cork Kilkenny and even Galway have all won touch and go All Irelands and most people, in those years, just hailed the champions, as most people did this year as well.. Trying to make out that Cork were somehow a better team is a joke as they were six points up after getting a very soft goal (Dan Morrissey misjudged the flight of a ball he would have easily cleared). In the last eight minutes and over extra time Limerick outscored Cork by ten points. Also remember this was a young inexperienced Limerick and most of the teams they played in the closing stages of the championship had way more big match experience. As regards Quaids save several goalies have made equally important and match winning saves-that is what All Ireland winning goalies too. As a matter of fact the other Limerick born goalie that was playing that day has won several close games for his adopted county." Did I ever say cork were better than limerick? No I just mentioned small margins which were pretty obvious
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/04/2019 21:26:43
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Replying To wexico15: "Did I ever say cork were better than limerick? No I just mentioned small margins which were pretty obvious" Point take Wexico but small margins are often involved in winning All Irelands. Kilkenny for example, won six All Irelands between 1922 and 1963. No less than four of them were won by a point, another by two and another by four, with the decisive scored with the last puck of the game.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 25/04/2019 21:56:09
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Impossible to call again this year.
I'll go for Cork, Limerick and Waterford to come through. Cork could just as easily finish last as first however, as could any of the other teams.
Tipp lost a great chance in the league to bed in morenew players but gave too much game time to the older players, some who needed a rest. I'd be surprised if we get out of Munster, but if we do then I'd give us a reasonable chance of going further. A big if tho! There's not one of the big 6/7 counties on a worse run of form though over the past two seasons
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 25/04/2019 21:59:13
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Replying To wexico15: "Did I ever say limerick were lucky to win the all Ireland? No ye deserved your hard earned title.
I said there were small margins like 95% of all Ireland wins and if any supporters think there team is way ahead of the chasing pack heads are in the clouds.
Alot of the limerick posters here are overly sensitive and take an observation or opinion as a personal attack. Suppose you brought of 96, Gary Kirby etc. here in a discussion a few months ago so that says alot about your maturity" Just a minute. I do not think I ever drew up the Gary Kirby incident or if I ever did it was in reply to somebody else who had mentioned it already. As far as I am concerned when ever Limerick lost a match it was because the opposition were better- end of story.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 25/04/2019 21:59:43
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Replying To Ej: "Clare to win Munster, beaten finalists Tipp, Limerick to get third. Both 'provincial' championships look tasty affairs. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Kilkenny don't make it through in Leinster" EJ, I think you could be on the money there. I find it hard to judge Leinster, but I have a feeling that Dublin could have a big year and could possibility repeat their '13 Provincial win, with Galway contesting the Leinster Final and Kilkenny also pulling through.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 25/04/2019 22:05:29
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Replying To LarryOBrother: "Last year Galway played in fits and starts and still only lost an All Ireland final by a point. When they did play well in patches they swept teams out the gate. No Joe Canning will be huge but if they tap in to the ability they have i don't think any team can match them." They played as well as they were allowed to play- end of story- and if two of our full back line were not injured they would have been beaten more comprehensively.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 25/04/2019 22:11:03
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Replying To Ban: "Its impossible to call really - Limerick are the form team and you would expect them to be in the top 3. But, they're home games are not easy and its very possible they wont qualify from the group.
I like Cork - most consistent Munster team over the last couple of years. Harnedy is one of the best in the game - they also have some really good young players. I think they will win Liam this year.
Its a mad pressure cooker - but a good spectacle! Can't wait" Ban
Cork are consistent in Munster, but they are also consistent in Croke Park- Lost heavily to Waterford in 17 and Limerick, in the end, last year. Lost to Clare in 13 and Tipp 14 also with quite a few of current panel involved. I would be slow to back them for outright success.
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Replying To LarryOBrother: "I'm not trying to antagonise anybody i just have an opinion on the way the Championship will unfold.
Limerick were worthy winners last year - beat all the top teams on the way in fairness to them however history suggests it is almost impossible to keep it going for 12-16 months in a row and I really think it was foolish to go all out in the league and then try maintain that intensity for championship. Look at what happened Na Piarsiagh in the club championship, heavy favourites but they ended up getting a trimming by Ballygunner when they ran out of steam.
I'm saying / hoping it will be Wexford in a quarter final but it could end up being in a semi final or final when all the exploits over the last few year will end up catching Limerick out." Na Piarsaigh did not have John Kiely or Paul Kinnerk on their management team- anyway NAP were beaten by Patrickswell at home last Sunday and since 2012 they have lost all the games they lost in Munster to Limerick sides, except the Ballygunner game.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 25/04/2019 22:25:19
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Replying To tiobraid: "Impossible to call again this year.
I'll go for Cork, Limerick and Waterford to come through. Cork could just as easily finish last as first however, as could any of the other teams.
Tipp lost a great chance in the league to bed in morenew players but gave too much game time to the older players, some who needed a rest. I'd be surprised if we get out of Munster, but if we do then I'd give us a reasonable chance of going further. A big if tho! There's not one of the big 6/7 counties on a worse run of form though over the past two seasons" I'll be very interested in seeing you play against Cork. Win and the season opens up, lose and potentially a repeat of last year's mess.
Talking to a friend from Tipp earlier and he's fearful about the lack of pace in the team.
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I think its so close its impossible to call I'll go for limerick cork and clare to emerge but wouldn't put a bob on it.
Can't understand why anyone could tip gal way tbh to say that they almost came back at limerick last yr after giving them 3 soft goals had limerick taken they're chances they could have been 13-14 points up heading into xtra time plus they were the inexperienced side wouldn't rule anyone out but for me thats just too much to make up.
I think kk Dublin will get thru in leinster with galway and wexford battling it out for final spot its far from easy to pick the 3 from leinster as well
someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 25/04/2019 23:21:53
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Na Piarsaigh did not have John Kiely or Paul Kinnerk on their management team- anyway NAP were beaten by Patrickswell at home last Sunday and since 2012 they have lost all the games they lost in Munster to Limerick sides, except the Ballygunner game." It's happened to Kilkenny with Brian Cody and probably the best team ever to play the game Na Piarsiagh are just a classic example of what happens to a team team that has to keep on turning up without a break. It happens in every sport
LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 25/04/2019 23:39:08
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Replying To Oldtourman: "EJ, I think you could be on the money there. I find it hard to judge Leinster, but I have a feeling that Dublin could have a big year and could possibility repeat their '13 Provincial win, with Galway contesting the Leinster Final and Kilkenny also pulling through." The fact that Wexford are at home to Kilkenny tips it wexfords way in my opinion. And with the injuries Kilkenny have got in key positions (3,6 and possibly 1) I fancy the dubs to turn them over.
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Replying To Oldtourman: "They played as well as they were allowed to play- end of story- and if two of our full back line were not injured they would have been beaten more comprehensively." Big statement. Is the fact that ye won not enough for you? If the 2 players in our fb line hadnt been injured do you think that might have made a difference too? Remember the old saying: "if was never in a true sentence".
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