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Can not wait for this , last year was spectacular this year is going to be even better every team now knows that they've to go all out every game cause for me Tipp didn't do that last year from the get go and before they knew it they were out. All 5 teams could easily win the all Ireland never mind Munster yet two won't see past June I love it let's find out whose the best in Munster bring it on. What's the thoughts posters who've you got ? Limerick will be everyone's favorite and they are brilliant but would it be a massive shock if they didn't make it out? I'm not sure it would cause all 5 teams are capable of beating each other on any given day. Do Tipp lack too much pace? are Cork still relying on the same forwards who haven't gotten them over the line ? will Gleeson find form to help Waterford get out of Munster ? Will Clare finally fulfil their '13 potential? Will limerick steam roll everyone and win Liam again?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 24/04/2019 10:58:50    2180041

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Can not wait for this , last year was spectacular this year is going to be even better every team now knows that they've to go all out every game cause for me Tipp didn't do that last year from the get go and before they knew it they were out. All 5 teams could easily win the all Ireland never mind Munster yet two won't see past June I love it let's find out whose the best in Munster bring it on. What's the thoughts posters who've you got ? Limerick will be everyone's favorite and they are brilliant but would it be a massive shock if they didn't make it out? I'm not sure it would cause all 5 teams are capable of beating each other on any given day. Do Tipp lack too much pace? are Cork still relying on the same forwards who haven't gotten them over the line ? will Gleeson find form to help Waterford get out of Munster ? Will Clare finally fulfil their '13 potential? Will limerick steam roll everyone and win Liam again?"
i posted the below back before Joe Canning got injured but i'm sticking to it until im proven wrong -

I think Galway will win All Ireland easy enough to be honest - they lost by a point last year after playing for about 20 mins and gifting Limerick 3 goals.

Team Predictions as follows:
Galway - AI Champions, most talent, will make amends for last year.
Cork - Beaten finalists - Will score heavily but lack of a full back will catch up eventually.
Clare - Semi Final - beaten by Galway - Will be entertaining and competitive but no Reidy, McGrath & off pace O'Donnell will leave squad bare and any injury will scupper plans greatly.
Wexford - Semi Final - Beaten by cork - Poor Leinster campaign, struggle over Dublin in 1st round and lose to KK and Galway. Will Surprise everybody when short passing sweeper system begins to rack up high scores but will lose to Cork in classic semi final.
Kilkenny - 1/4 Final - Deep panel but will stumble due to lack of top class players in 1/4 final - will die with their boots on and give all. TJ to be a bit player from play. Full back to be a massive issue all year.
Limerick - Will storm Munster early and be favorites for Munster Final where they will be trimmed by fast cork team. Wheels will fall off against Wexford where they will be shocked by 6points plus with wexford getting last 5 scores.

Waterford - Lose to clare in classic that eliminates them from Munster. Lack of forwards to tell.
Tipp - Wooden spoon - Pace of senior players greatly exposed. Callanan to be dropped by third Munster Game
Dublin - Valiant efforts against Wexford and KK - Eoghan O Donnell to get an all star.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 24/04/2019 12:27:27    2180055

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I'm intrigued by the thought of how munster will play out.
Honestly can't call it.
think ourselves and Clare are comprised by having to play 3 in a row though.. Means winning the first game is essential.
Like you said any of the 5 are potentially all ireland winner's but getting out of the bear pit of munster is the problem.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1056 - 24/04/2019 13:27:05    2180061

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'Wheels will fall off against Wexford where they will be shocked by 6points plus with wexford getting last 5 scores'


In your dreams pal.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1056 - 24/04/2019 13:28:30    2180063

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Can't wait for the first throw in. I've set up a prediction thread for the championship ahead. All welcome to join in the fun: http://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/107165?Latest=1#Latest

PortInFaithful (Offaly) - Posts: 472 - 24/04/2019 14:35:58    2180079

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Replying To skillet:  "'Wheels will fall off against Wexford where they will be shocked by 6points plus with wexford getting last 5 scores'


In your dreams pal."
When champions fall they tend to fall hard....might not be Wexford but i think they will be ambushed/ shocked by someone they are expected to beat in AI Series.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 24/04/2019 14:51:54    2180084

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "When champions fall they tend to fall hard....might not be Wexford but i think they will be ambushed/ shocked by someone they are expected to beat in AI Series."
"might not be wexford" awe i think you may be coming around again after that fall.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 24/04/2019 15:22:47    2180091

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Time will tell... if I predicted limerick winning the AI this time last year I would have gotten some funny looks too.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 24/04/2019 19:51:33    2180134

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "i posted the below back before Joe Canning got injured but i'm sticking to it until im proven wrong -

I think Galway will win All Ireland easy enough to be honest - they lost by a point last year after playing for about 20 mins and gifting Limerick 3 goals.

Team Predictions as follows:
Galway - AI Champions, most talent, will make amends for last year.
Cork - Beaten finalists - Will score heavily but lack of a full back will catch up eventually.
Clare - Semi Final - beaten by Galway - Will be entertaining and competitive but no Reidy, McGrath & off pace O'Donnell will leave squad bare and any injury will scupper plans greatly.
Wexford - Semi Final - Beaten by cork - Poor Leinster campaign, struggle over Dublin in 1st round and lose to KK and Galway. Will Surprise everybody when short passing sweeper system begins to rack up high scores but will lose to Cork in classic semi final.
Kilkenny - 1/4 Final - Deep panel but will stumble due to lack of top class players in 1/4 final - will die with their boots on and give all. TJ to be a bit player from play. Full back to be a massive issue all year.
Limerick - Will storm Munster early and be favorites for Munster Final where they will be trimmed by fast cork team. Wheels will fall off against Wexford where they will be shocked by 6points plus with wexford getting last 5 scores.

Waterford - Lose to clare in classic that eliminates them from Munster. Lack of forwards to tell.
Tipp - Wooden spoon - Pace of senior players greatly exposed. Callanan to be dropped by third Munster Game
Dublin - Valiant efforts against Wexford and KK - Eoghan O Donnell to get an all star."
Last year Galway struggled against Kilkenny and Clare and were beaten twice by a young inexperienced, emerging Limerick team. I would not be that confident of their capacity to win the All Ireland easily.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4315 - 24/04/2019 20:37:12    2180139

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "i posted the below back before Joe Canning got injured but i'm sticking to it until im proven wrong -

I think Galway will win All Ireland easy enough to be honest - they lost by a point last year after playing for about 20 mins and gifting Limerick 3 goals.

Team Predictions as follows:
Galway - AI Champions, most talent, will make amends for last year.
Cork - Beaten finalists - Will score heavily but lack of a full back will catch up eventually.
Clare - Semi Final - beaten by Galway - Will be entertaining and competitive but no Reidy, McGrath & off pace O'Donnell will leave squad bare and any injury will scupper plans greatly.
Wexford - Semi Final - Beaten by cork - Poor Leinster campaign, struggle over Dublin in 1st round and lose to KK and Galway. Will Surprise everybody when short passing sweeper system begins to rack up high scores but will lose to Cork in classic semi final.
Kilkenny - 1/4 Final - Deep panel but will stumble due to lack of top class players in 1/4 final - will die with their boots on and give all. TJ to be a bit player from play. Full back to be a massive issue all year.
Limerick - Will storm Munster early and be favorites for Munster Final where they will be trimmed by fast cork team. Wheels will fall off against Wexford where they will be shocked by 6points plus with wexford getting last 5 scores.

Waterford - Lose to clare in classic that eliminates them from Munster. Lack of forwards to tell.
Tipp - Wooden spoon - Pace of senior players greatly exposed. Callanan to be dropped by third Munster Game
Dublin - Valiant efforts against Wexford and KK - Eoghan O Donnell to get an all star."
Ah now Larry.....not like you to be getting under the skin of the Limerick lads

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 24/04/2019 22:10:28    2180147

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I think limerick will win Munster beating cork in the final and tipp will finish 3rd.

I think galway will win leinster beating wexford in the final and Dublin will finish 3rd.

I've got a feeling limerick won't win the all Ireland like galway last year they'll run out steam July or August

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 24/04/2019 22:26:27    2180148

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Replying To Ej:  "Ah now Larry.....not like you to be getting under the skin of the Limerick lads"
not getting under anyones skin just funny that he says wexford would beat limerick by 6 points plus in an allireland quarter final ....i'm agreeing with paddy power that wexford won't even out qualify out of leinster. i said 2 months ago that this marriage with davy and wexford is going to go up in smoke before the year is over im sticking with that.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 25/04/2019 05:45:22    2180162

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Its impossible to call really - Limerick are the form team and you would expect them to be in the top 3. But, they're home games are not easy and its very possible they wont qualify from the group.

I like Cork - most consistent Munster team over the last couple of years. Harnedy is one of the best in the game - they also have some really good young players. I think they will win Liam this year.

Its a mad pressure cooker - but a good spectacle! Can't wait

Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1414 - 25/04/2019 08:14:47    2180166

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Last year Galway struggled against Kilkenny and Clare and were beaten twice by a young inexperienced, emerging Limerick team. I would not be that confident of their capacity to win the All Ireland easily."
Last year Galway played in fits and starts and still only lost an All Ireland final by a point. When they did play well in patches they swept teams out the gate. No Joe Canning will be huge but if they tap in to the ability they have i don't think any team can match them.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 25/04/2019 08:21:02    2180167

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "not getting under anyones skin just funny that he says wexford would beat limerick by 6 points plus in an allireland quarter final ....i'm agreeing with paddy power that wexford won't even out qualify out of leinster. i said 2 months ago that this marriage with davy and wexford is going to go up in smoke before the year is over im sticking with that."
I'm not trying to antagonise anybody i just have an opinion on the way the Championship will unfold.
Limerick were worthy winners last year - beat all the top teams on the way in fairness to them however history suggests it is almost impossible to keep it going for 12-16 months in a row and I really think it was foolish to go all out in the league and then try maintain that intensity for championship. Look at what happened Na Piarsiagh in the club championship, heavy favourites but they ended up getting a trimming by Ballygunner when they ran out of steam.
I'm saying / hoping it will be Wexford in a quarter final but it could end up being in a semi final or final when all the exploits over the last few year will end up catching Limerick out.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 25/04/2019 10:58:19    2180184

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "I'm not trying to antagonise anybody i just have an opinion on the way the Championship will unfold.
Limerick were worthy winners last year - beat all the top teams on the way in fairness to them however history suggests it is almost impossible to keep it going for 12-16 months in a row and I really think it was foolish to go all out in the league and then try maintain that intensity for championship. Look at what happened Na Piarsiagh in the club championship, heavy favourites but they ended up getting a trimming by Ballygunner when they ran out of steam.
I'm saying / hoping it will be Wexford in a quarter final but it could end up being in a semi final or final when all the exploits over the last few year will end up catching Limerick out."
i get your point larry, maybe we will get tired but its going to take a fair outfit to wrestle the liam mccarthy from limerick, but the thing that made me laugh was wexford been the ones to knock out the limerick......

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 25/04/2019 12:04:18    2180197

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "i get your point larry, maybe we will get tired but its going to take a fair outfit to wrestle the liam mccarthy from limerick, but the thing that made me laugh was wexford been the ones to knock out the limerick......"
Why is that laughable?

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 25/04/2019 14:35:24    2180225

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "i get your point larry, maybe we will get tired but its going to take a fair outfit to wrestle the liam mccarthy from limerick, but the thing that made me laugh was wexford been the ones to knock out the limerick......"
Ye have every right to be bullish but i wouldn't agree with you.

Again people might confuse this as begrudgery but Limerick didn't beat any team out the gate last year and all of their games literally went down to the wire.
A few breaks the wrong way this year and that one point win ends up being a draw or the draw ends up being a narrow loss. Margins are very tight.


And you'll just have to trust me on Wexford!!! :)

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 25/04/2019 15:14:18    2180229

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Ye have every right to be bullish but i wouldn't agree with you.

Again people might confuse this as begrudgery but Limerick didn't beat any team out the gate last year and all of their games literally went down to the wire.
A few breaks the wrong way this year and that one point win ends up being a draw or the draw ends up being a narrow loss. Margins are very tight.


And you'll just have to trust me on Wexford!!! :)"
Small margins is correct if it wasn't for quaid's flick/block on harnedy there would have no end to the 45 year famine

bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 25/04/2019 16:33:38    2180242

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "Ye have every right to be bullish but i wouldn't agree with you.

Again people might confuse this as begrudgery but Limerick didn't beat any team out the gate last year and all of their games literally went down to the wire.
A few breaks the wrong way this year and that one point win ends up being a draw or the draw ends up being a narrow loss. Margins are very tight.


And you'll just have to trust me on Wexford!!! :)"
beat tipp by 6 in round one.
drew with cork in round 2 with 14 men.
beat waterford 13 points round 3.
lost to clare round 4.
beat carlow by 24 points next round.
beat kilkenny by 2 ( after making an allstar out of eoin murphy)
beat cork in semi by 4.
beat galway by a point after been 9 up heading into injury time in final.
i'd be thinking its begrudgery myself.
all the pundits say limerick won the greatest all ireland ever.

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1094 - 25/04/2019 18:00:13    2180252

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