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Replying To carlovia:  "Meath have so much ?"
15 points better than Carlow. And that's with a blanket defense:) Haven't you got to put 15 behind some ball (if there's 15 who's not suspended) and disgrace football somewhere?? Or whinge when ur dirty tactics are caught red handed. Look we went easy on you it could have been 30+ we beat you by. Enjoy the summer holidays

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2019 12:52:42    2189381

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Replying To waynoI:  "You're a westmeath man"
You must be very proud having ur 3 clubmen on the Meath county team, and all 3 flying.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2019 12:53:44    2189383

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Replying To waynoI:  "You're a westmeath man"
At least Royaldunne is involved with his local club. True GAA man.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 31/05/2019 12:54:48    2189384

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Replying To Htaem:  "Want to be careful with them recounts royaldunne, we could end up with Clare Daly as our rep."
Oh Jesus Christ don't say that. I've just had a cold shiver run down my spine.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2019 12:56:21    2189385

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "At least Royaldunne is involved with his local club. True GAA man."
Indeed I am. And I have never once denied I live in Westmeath and am actively involved in the club.
What do you do for st colm cilles Wayne? With talent like graham Reilly, Ben Brennan and james Conlon (despite Sunday game trying to move him to summerhill) all involved, it must be a exciting time for your club Wayne

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2019 12:58:56    2189387

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Previously? Did you forget that Dublin are second on the all Ireland roll of honour and miles ahead of everyone on the leinster roll of honour. You've always had an unfair advantage and now you've an even bigger one. The funny thing is if we trimmed you down to the average 150k a county usually has with similar funding you'd be lucky to have 10% of the honours which would be fine as there's 31 other counties to compete with.

The biggest mistake the GAA made was not splitting you from the start but given the circumstances I can understand. It will happen eventually. Every leinster title and Sam you add to the cabinet edges that reality one step closer. And every year the population increases more then other counties it edges it closer too. It's reached the point where most counties just accept Dublin winning because they understand the imbalance."
Yeah but you're just throwing figures out there with no logic or proof. Lucky to have 10% with 150K funding. Proof please. Where is the population argument gone? What are your thoughts on Meath and Carlow. Is that a fair match-up bearing in mind the vast funding and population differences. Properly organised counties, where infighting has consumed their CB for a decade, like Kerry, Monaghan, Mayo, Tyrone don't just accept Dublin winning.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/05/2019 14:06:24    2189407

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Replying To royaldunne:  "So O'Rourke Hayes and jack are the spokespeople for a whole county. I don't want dubs split in two. Now of course funding should be more for Meath. But watch Leinster final. Never before will a county with so much be humiliated by a county with so little.
Hon the royal"
Who knows RD :). The scars of 2010 are still visible and you're certainly heading in the right direction. You've beaten us in minor. You've beaten us in the OBC. You beat us in Sean Cox fundraiser. These are impossible feats according to Jack Goff because of the incredible advantages that we possess. We had all of these advantages in 91 as well but don't tell Jack that. You'll completely blow his GAA pro Dublin conspiracy theories out of the water.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 31/05/2019 14:15:02    2189409

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Replying To royaldunne:  "15 points better than Carlow. And that's with a blanket defense:) Haven't you got to put 15 behind some ball (if there's 15 who's not suspended) and disgrace football somewhere?? Or whinge when ur dirty tactics are caught red handed. Look we went easy on you it could have been 30+ we beat you by. Enjoy the summer holidays"
So O'Rourke Hayes and jack are the spokespeople for a whole county. I don't want dubs split in two. Now of course funding should be more for Meath. "But watch Leinster final. Never before will a county with so much be humiliated by a county with so little".
Hon the royal
royaldunne (Meath)

That's a bit rich coming from you especially with your history of sportsmanship, go back no further than the Leinster senior football final of 2010,when your dirty tactics went unpunished and you hijacked the title from Louth, what was sporting about that didn't that disgrace football, you could have taken the honourable way out and given the trophy to Louth which was rightfully theirs anyway,

Fake / DeFacto ??

There's an old saying, People in glass houses, and all that, or you should never point an accusing finger at anyone,especially when there's always three pointing back at you.

In 2010 a county with little was belittled by a county with a bit more.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 31/05/2019 18:23:49    2189464

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Replying To Joxer:  "Yeah but you're just throwing figures out there with no logic or proof. Lucky to have 10% with 150K funding. Proof please. Where is the population argument gone? What are your thoughts on Meath and Carlow. Is that a fair match-up bearing in mind the vast funding and population differences. Properly organised counties, where infighting has consumed their CB for a decade, like Kerry, Monaghan, Mayo, Tyrone don't just accept Dublin winning."
The large increase in population in both Meath and Kildare are not native to these counties and seem to have little interest in playing for either. House prices in Dublin are forcing people working there to move further afield. I dont think the population increase is a valid argument.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 31/05/2019 19:03:15    2189474

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Meath a dark horse and they have a fanbase to and quality to ask questions of the dubs on a good day at HQ.
Experience might be a factor this year but they are on the right road.

BeJasus (UK) - Posts: 383 - 31/05/2019 20:07:07    2189483

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Previously? Did you forget that Dublin are second on the all Ireland roll of honour and miles ahead of everyone on the leinster roll of honour. You've always had an unfair advantage and now you've an even bigger one. The funny thing is if we trimmed you down to the average 150k a county usually has with similar funding you'd be lucky to have 10% of the honours which would be fine as there's 31 other counties to compete with.

The biggest mistake the GAA made was not splitting you from the start but given the circumstances I can understand. It will happen eventually. Every leinster title and Sam you add to the cabinet edges that reality one step closer. And every year the population increases more then other counties it edges it closer too. It's reached the point where most counties just accept Dublin winning because they understand the imbalance."
It will never happen , doesnt matter how many times you say it , Dublin will not be split .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 31/05/2019 20:25:17    2189490

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Replying To supersub15:  "So O'Rourke Hayes and jack are the spokespeople for a whole county. I don't want dubs split in two. Now of course funding should be more for Meath. "But watch Leinster final. Never before will a county with so much be humiliated by a county with so little".
Hon the royal
royaldunne (Meath)

That's a bit rich coming from you especially with your history of sportsmanship, go back no further than the Leinster senior football final of 2010,when your dirty tactics went unpunished and you hijacked the title from Louth, what was sporting about that didn't that disgrace football, you could have taken the honourable way out and given the trophy to Louth which was rightfully theirs anyway,

Fake / DeFacto ??

There's an old saying, People in glass houses, and all that, or you should never point an accusing finger at anyone,especially when there's always three pointing back at you.

In 2010 a county with little was belittled by a county with a bit more."
Please if you gonna rant at least try to be accurate, the total falsehoods of what you written is laughable, one the 2010 Leinster final was played in a very tough but fair manner, no dirty hits. A ball was lobbed in by graham Reilly, Seamus Kenny grabbed it totally legally and should have punched the ball over the bar, he went for a goal that was stopped the ball rebounded and fell to joe Sheridan who tried his best to score but was fouled , falling into goal and still attempting to score. The ref made a error and awarded a goal that wasn't, he later said he was going to award a penalty, bad call by ref nothing got to with Meath. Those are the facts.
Now if you referring to the multiple assaults on ref that day, I can see how that's relevant to Carlow and their pathetic management and so called best player. But nothing to do with Meath. Take ur beating and learn how to play football would be my advice to division 4 Carlow,

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 31/05/2019 23:15:29    2189529

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Replying To seadog54:  "The large increase in population in both Meath and Kildare are not native to these counties and seem to have little interest in playing for either. House prices in Dublin are forcing people working there to move further afield. I dont think the population increase is a valid argument."
And the large increase in the population in Dublin are not native to the country never mind the county, and they most definitely have little interest in playing gaa.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 31/05/2019 23:25:38    2189533

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Replying To superbluedub:  "And the large increase in the population in Dublin are not native to the country never mind the county, and they most definitely have little interest in playing gaa."
Now here is where I will agree with some of what has been written. Donamore/ashbourne rathoath and dunboyne are seen as feeder clubs to Dublin. That can't continue, and there has to be some restrictions put in place in instances such as this. You cannot have a club bringing a player through from under 8 /10 maybe upto including minor and then they decide to play for Dublin, while still playing all there club football in Meath. There is a perfect example of this at the moment where a good enough player was offered a trial on the Meath panel, he refused as he waiting on Jim Gavin to give him a call. I don't blame the player, but I do blame the system, if he had known all his life that if he wanted to play inter county it would have to be for Meath then I don't think this situation would have arisen.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/06/2019 08:57:41    2189564

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Replying To royaldunne:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "So O'Rourke Hayes and jack are the spokespeople for a whole county. I don't want dubs split in two. Now of course funding should be more for Meath. "But watch Leinster final. Never before will a county with so much be humiliated by a county with so little".
Hon the royal
royaldunne (Meath)

That's a bit rich coming from you especially with your history of sportsmanship, go back no further than the Leinster senior football final of 2010,when your dirty tactics went unpunished and you hijacked the title from Louth, what was sporting about that didn't that disgrace football, you could have taken the honourable way out and given the trophy to Louth which was rightfully theirs anyway,

Fake / DeFacto ??

There's an old saying, People in glass houses, and all that, or you should never point an accusing finger at anyone,especially when there's always three pointing back at you.

In 2010 a county with little was belittled by a county with a bit more."
Please if you gonna rant at least try to be accurate, the total falsehoods of what you written is laughable, one the 2010 Leinster final was played in a very tough but fair manner, no dirty hits. A ball was lobbed in by graham Reilly, Seamus Kenny grabbed it totally legally and should have punched the ball over the bar, he went for a goal that was stopped the ball rebounded and fell to joe Sheridan who tried his best to score but was fouled , falling into goal and still attempting to score. The ref made a error and awarded a goal that wasn't, he later said he was going to award a penalty, bad call by ref nothing got to with Meath. Those are the facts.
Now if you referring to the multiple assaults on ref that day, I can see how that's relevant to Carlow and their pathetic management and so called best player. But nothing to do with Meath. Take ur beating and learn how to play football would be my advice to division 4 Carlow,"
Just to let you know, I replied to your post (twice) but as of now it appears Admin has sadly refused to let it through.
So through no fault of mine discussion closed.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 01/06/2019 18:50:52    2189658

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Listening to the two games being played in Munster, and say what we like about the predictability of the Leinster championship, Munster is no better. Another Cork vs Kerry final on the way with Kerry to win again.

In terms of entertainment, Ulster and Connacht are leagues ahead.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 01/06/2019 19:15:27    2189664

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Replying To festinog:  "Listening to the two games being played in Munster, and say what we like about the predictability of the Leinster championship, Munster is no better. Another Cork vs Kerry final on the way with Kerry to win again.

In terms of entertainment, Ulster and Connacht are leagues ahead."
No doubt. We used to have 4 exciting provinces. Now munster and leinster are 1 team provinces.

Connaught and ulster are super competitive. I'm very jealous.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 01/06/2019 19:29:04    2189666

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Replying To festinog:  "Listening to the two games being played in Munster, and say what we like about the predictability of the Leinster championship, Munster is no better. Another Cork vs Kerry final on the way with Kerry to win again.

In terms of entertainment, Ulster and Connacht are leagues ahead."
Absolutely!! Take Dublin out of Leinster and it's a competitive province. Munster is a joke.

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 758 - 01/06/2019 19:32:06    2189667

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Replying To royaldunne:  "
Replying To supersub15:  "So O'Rourke Hayes and jack are the spokespeople for a whole county. I don't want dubs split in two. Now of course funding should be more for Meath. "But watch Leinster final. Never before will a county with so much be humiliated by a county with so little".
Hon the royal
royaldunne (Meath)

That's a bit rich coming from you especially with your history of sportsmanship, go back no further than the Leinster senior football final of 2010,when your dirty tactics went unpunished and you hijacked the title from Louth, what was sporting about that didn't that disgrace football, you could have taken the honourable way out and given the trophy to Louth which was rightfully theirs anyway,

Fake / DeFacto ??

There's an old saying, People in glass houses, and all that, or you should never point an accusing finger at anyone,especially when there's always three pointing back at you.

In 2010 a county with little was belittled by a county with a bit more."
Please if you gonna rant at least try to be accurate, the total falsehoods of what you written is laughable, one the 2010 Leinster final was played in a very tough but fair manner, no dirty hits. A ball was lobbed in by graham Reilly, Seamus Kenny grabbed it totally legally and should have punched the ball over the bar, he went for a goal that was stopped the ball rebounded and fell to joe Sheridan who tried his best to score but was fouled , falling into goal and still attempting to score. The ref made a error and awarded a goal that wasn't, he later said he was going to award a penalty, bad call by ref nothing got to with Meath. Those are the facts.
Now if you referring to the multiple assaults on ref that day, I can see how that's relevant to Carlow and their pathetic management and so called best player. But nothing to do with Meath. Take ur beating and learn how to play football would be my advice to division 4 Carlow,"
RD my good man, he wasn't fouled, his momentum sent him to ground, but the Louth lad did put a leg in as he was going down so another ref could easily have given a penalty. It was almost impossible in real time to be 100% sure either way in fairness to the official.

It's just one of those things but it was highlighted more because of Louth's long wait for a title, a very unfortunate incident but certainly not Meath's fault.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 01/06/2019 20:12:45    2189670

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Replying To realdub:  "
Replying To royaldunne:  "[quote=supersub15:  "So O'Rourke Hayes and jack are the spokespeople for a whole county. I don't want dubs split in two. Now of course funding should be more for Meath. "But watch Leinster final. Never before will a county with so much be humiliated by a county with so little".
Hon the royal
royaldunne (Meath)

That's a bit rich coming from you especially with your history of sportsmanship, go back no further than the Leinster senior football final of 2010,when your dirty tactics went unpunished and you hijacked the title from Louth, what was sporting about that didn't that disgrace football, you could have taken the honourable way out and given the trophy to Louth which was rightfully theirs anyway,

Fake / DeFacto ??

There's an old saying, People in glass houses, and all that, or you should never point an accusing finger at anyone,especially when there's always three pointing back at you.

In 2010 a county with little was belittled by a county with a bit more."
Please if you gonna rant at least try to be accurate, the total falsehoods of what you written is laughable, one the 2010 Leinster final was played in a very tough but fair manner, no dirty hits. A ball was lobbed in by graham Reilly, Seamus Kenny grabbed it totally legally and should have punched the ball over the bar, he went for a goal that was stopped the ball rebounded and fell to joe Sheridan who tried his best to score but was fouled , falling into goal and still attempting to score. The ref made a error and awarded a goal that wasn't, he later said he was going to award a penalty, bad call by ref nothing got to with Meath. Those are the facts.
Now if you referring to the multiple assaults on ref that day, I can see how that's relevant to Carlow and their pathetic management and so called best player. But nothing to do with Meath. Take ur beating and learn how to play football would be my advice to division 4 Carlow,"
RD my good man, he wasn't fouled, his momentum sent him to ground, but the Louth lad did put a leg in as he was going down so another ref could easily have given a penalty. It was almost impossible in real time to be 100% sure either way in fairness to the official.

It's just one of those things but it was highlighted more because of Louth's long wait for a title, a very unfortunate incident but certainly not Meath's fault."]Indeed it wasn't, easy to see it in frame by frame , ref made a call. And it was wrong one. No one doubted that. I think there was a legitimate case for a peno, and I wish that he had given one, as I am sure the instructions to Cian ward would be put it over and we take the draw. Now known Cian he might not have listened but everyone would have been happy.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/06/2019 21:26:37    2189685

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