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no need to make this personal, but is there something going on behind the scenes in Limerick, how Ronan Lynch was not in last years squad was amazing, and now again this year, not included again, maybe there are personality clashes etc. and if so that happens, but what a player NOT to have in your squad?? Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 04/01/2019 15:44:37 2155667 Link
Replying To Fairplayalways: "no need to make this personal, but is there something going on behind the scenes in Limerick, how Ronan Lynch was not in last years squad was amazing, and now again this year, not included again, maybe there are personality clashes etc. and if so that happens, but what a player NOT to have in your squad??" Trying to make something out of nothing here Pal. If management think Ronan has something to offer this year he'll get his chance. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 04/01/2019 16:30:26 2155672 Link
It's a reflection of the strength in depth of Limerick hurling at the minute. Downes and Dowling are subs too. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 04/01/2019 17:25:18 2155676 Link
Replying To Fairplayalways: "no need to make this personal, but is there something going on behind the scenes in Limerick, how Ronan Lynch was not in last years squad was amazing, and now again this year, not included again, maybe there are personality clashes etc. and if so that happens, but what a player NOT to have in your squad??" Maybe coach doesn't feel what he (Lynch) has to offer team is what it needs? I don't know, clearly the player has decided to pitch in with footballers and who can blame him. Won't make much difference to Limerick hurlers - such is their current strenght. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4953 - 04/01/2019 18:03:07 2155680 Link
The Limerick hurlers have to have a very high workrate or you won't make panel never mind the team regardless of your skill level. updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 899 - 04/01/2019 18:12:34 2155684 Link
He's a good guy just a little off top quality. Hes a good free taker ,excellent leader and good reader of the game.It's unfortunate for him that the Limerick half back line is so strong. Throwing his lot in with the Footballers ...he must be a glutton for punishment because they are in the bottom 5 in Ireland. You could walk the streets of Limerick and not find 1 person who could name a guy on the senior football panel. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 04/01/2019 18:54:44 2155689 Link
This could be a means to an end for him obviously hurling is his first love it gives him senior inter county experience albeit in a different code it could improve his physicality as well as other benefits good luck to him i say it didn't do gearoid Hegarty any harm. If I was to advise him I'd say keep working and trying to improve, he's with a high profile club so exposure isn't an issue for me he's better than some players on panel even with his current deficiencies someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 05/01/2019 00:02:52 2155712 Link
every county has a few absentees,some players have it all but just cant or dont apply themselves. wexford hurlers have a top forward who would walk onto the team if he gave it everything he has.but because he wont he isnt part of the squad. now if you ask me,you have only 5-10 years max at the top of hurling or football,if i was a player i would hate to look back regretting that i didnt give it my all.but the counter argument is given the commitment now needed,is it worth it?and is it worth it to sacrifice the social element of your 20s to go training 4-5 nights a week? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 07/01/2019 15:43:27 2155972 Link
Replying To perfect10: "every county has a few absentees,some players have it all but just cant or dont apply themselves. wexford hurlers have a top forward who would walk onto the team if he gave it everything he has.but because he wont he isnt part of the squad. now if you ask me,you have only 5-10 years max at the top of hurling or football,if i was a player i would hate to look back regretting that i didnt give it my all.but the counter argument is given the commitment now needed,is it worth it?and is it worth it to sacrifice the social element of your 20s to go training 4-5 nights a week?" good honest answer, as I say I don't intend personalizing the matter, just Ronan was such an exception U21 only in recent years...pity if he cannot commit or management don't see him as part of the plan...I am sure they have their reasons... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 08/01/2019 13:16:37 2156086 Link
Replying To skillet: "Trying to make something out of nothing here Pal. If management think Ronan has something to offer this year he'll get his chance." not trying to make anything at all..what I and many seen as one of your best u21,s in recent years not making the senior panel 2 years in a row, if by his choice fair enough, if management don't see him as necessary, I hope that is truly the situation. I have followed Limerick over the years, and no more than Offaly, all available talent is needed at all times...pity he is not involved that's all..the football will hopefully keep him in the fold at some level and we will see him down the road...some hurler... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 08/01/2019 13:20:30 2156087 Link
Replying To Fairplayalways: "not trying to make anything at all..what I and many seen as one of your best u21,s in recent years not making the senior panel 2 years in a row, if by his choice fair enough, if management don't see him as necessary, I hope that is truly the situation. I have followed Limerick over the years, and no more than Offaly, all available talent is needed at all times...pity he is not involved that's all..the football will hopefully keep him in the fold at some level and we will see him down the road...some hurler..." Limerick have alot more talented players than Offaly at the moment and way bigger numbers. So you arent comparing like with like.Some talented players don't make the squad in bigger counties. That's the situation with Ronan Lynch. He doesnt have the power of Byrne's or Morrissey. Theres no alterior motives or personality clashes.Limerick is as professional a set up as there is in the GAA at the moment. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 08/01/2019 15:37:35 2156124 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Limerick have alot more talented players than Offaly at the moment and way bigger numbers. So you arent comparing like with like.Some talented players don't make the squad in bigger counties. That's the situation with Ronan Lynch. He doesnt have the power of Byrne's or Morrissey. Theres no alterior motives or personality clashes.Limerick is as professional a set up as there is in the GAA at the moment." Bloodyban Most people would agree that Ronan would not 'walk on the Limerick team'. However, what some of us find hard to understand is that he is not included in a panel of 42. Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4490 - 08/01/2019 16:32:35 2156132 Link
There are players in every county who are good enough but don't apply themselves. Limerick are riding the crest of a wave at the moment, I would say it is a hard panel to get onto. Offaly for example on the flip side, probably have plenty of good players who just don't see the reward for busting their asses and getting nothing out of it. I know 1 such player in college. It is the fallacy of the GAA's over-training and excessive commitment culture. StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1824 - 08/01/2019 17:45:24 2156150 Link
Replying To Oldtourman: "Bloodyban Most people would agree that Ronan would not 'walk on the Limerick team'. However, what some of us find hard to understand is that he is not included in a panel of 42." Yeah you could make the argument he should be in the 42. He's a good guy. He wouldn't be out of place but he wouldnt be challenging for a wing back place either. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 08/01/2019 17:50:05 2156153 Link
Is it not unfair to single out Lynch as someone who doesnt 'apply' himself?? Perhaps management just don't see him as fitting into their plans. He was part of the panel for the league last year and didn't make the cut. He was a great underage player but that doesn't necessarily transfer across. Not yet for him anyway, doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. Dan Morrissey was being spoken about on the Limerick forum over the last few years as someone who didn't deserve their place on the panel, let alone the team. now he's an all star half back..management saw his potential and worked out how to maximise his capabilities. Lynch just does not seem to be in favour at the moment. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 08/01/2019 19:06:18 2156163 Link
How can he give the requisite commitment to the County footballers if he couldn't commit to the hurlers? keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 08/01/2019 19:11:03 2156164 Link
who is ronan lynch lads?is he related to cian? maybe i am alone but i havent heard of him? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 09/01/2019 14:10:01 2156254 Link
Replying To skillet: "Is it not unfair to single out Lynch as someone who doesnt 'apply' himself?? Perhaps management just don't see him as fitting into their plans. He was part of the panel for the league last year and didn't make the cut. He was a great underage player but that doesn't necessarily transfer across. Not yet for him anyway, doesn't mean it won't happen in the future. Dan Morrissey was being spoken about on the Limerick forum over the last few years as someone who didn't deserve their place on the panel, let alone the team. now he's an all star half back..management saw his potential and worked out how to maximise his capabilities. Lynch just does not seem to be in favour at the moment." a good honest answer..what more can you say on it...I certainly (as you know) was not singling him out but inevitably I suppose it leans that way the more you debate it...Offaly certainly have the players, I know some are not making themselves available, but even so, we wouldn't have the numbers Limerick would have as replacements (Limerick isn't that big hurling wise is it really??)..anyway...best of luck to young Lynch, and as I say, down the road he might make a hurling panel..what I seen U21, he was up there with most of the lads who came through...I know it doesn't always carry forward to Senior either... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 09/01/2019 14:18:53 2156256 Link
Replying To perfect10: "who is ronan lynch lads?is he related to cian? maybe i am alone but i havent heard of him?" No relation, same surname and compatriots from the successful u21 teams of the last few years...both super underage players gone in a different trajectory. Cian plays with Patrickswell and Ronan with na Piarsaigh. skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1106 - 09/01/2019 17:31:34 2156288 Link
Replying To skillet: "No relation, same surname and compatriots from the successful u21 teams of the last few years...both super underage players gone in a different trajectory. Cian plays with Patrickswell and Ronan with na Piarsaigh." Having watched the Minor and U21 games on TG4 over the last few years, I myself was bemused the way lads had never heard of Cian (or Ronan Lynch), Kyle Hayes, the Morriseys, Seamus Flanagan, Aaron Gillane, Gearoid Hegarty etc. etc..even when they regrouped after Munster and beat Cork, hurling people were still "ah sure Limerick are LImerick"..I informed them that this was a serious outfit and thankfully they got their all ireland.always liked Limerick hurling...nice if they dont win this year if maybe Waterford won one...great to see Limerick put 2 together...very very hard done now and you would nearly want to be winning it without the back door route... Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1037 - 10/01/2019 00:28:16 2156331 Link