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Just saw footage of the Ballyholland and Downpatrick club game. Honestly I mean what the hell is going on in some club games?? Players leaving field to attack someone? A player taking out a woman ? He went straight for her. Look I'm no shrinking violet at a football game myself, I've questioned many a player/refs parentage, but this is out of hand. Surely both clubs should be suspended from this competition and next years too. Also fine cb, that is only solution. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/10/2018 21:44:46 2145479 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Just saw footage of the Ballyholland and Downpatrick club game. Honestly I mean what the hell is going on in some club games?? Players leaving field to attack someone? A player taking out a woman ? He went straight for her. Look I'm no shrinking violet at a football game myself, I've questioned many a player/refs parentage, but this is out of hand. Surely both clubs should be suspended from this competition and next years too. Also fine cb, that is only solution." Yes . Mass brawls should result in both teams being thrown out of the competition they're playing in . That would sort it out quickly . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6178 - 07/10/2018 22:36:50 2145492 Link
Anyone who jumped the fence should get a lifetime ban, zero tolerance is the only policy that should be applied. Someone is going to get killed in one of these incidents and then it will be too late. Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1710 - 07/10/2018 22:44:58 2145493 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Yes . Mass brawls should result in both teams being thrown out of the competition they're playing in . That would sort it out quickly ." Look on the field of play , while I don't condone it I can let it pass most of the time. But players leaving a field to have it out with supporters is something I have never seen before. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/10/2018 22:53:22 2145494 Link
Absolute thuggery of the highest level, plain and simple. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2322 - 07/10/2018 23:40:34 2145497 Link
Completely agree Croke Park need to step in and ensure severe sanctions are put in place for these teams before someone gets killed. ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 133 - 08/10/2018 08:37:20 2145511 Link
agree with both,i mean i was never one to back down from a tackle or anything but i took it like i gave it and nobody could say otherwise. yes the red mist descended on a couple of occasions and i let myself and my team mates down,but i very rarely remember that many of our games ending in a mass brawl. amidst all the condemnation of conor mcgregors fight at the weekend,i think what we see on a weekly basis is worse. was it always thus?i occasionally remember the odd match where there was a row in wexford,but it was the exception. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 08/10/2018 09:03:32 2145513 Link
tried to post a new thread on here the other night after the malee in derry but it wasnt posted. It is a complete joke the way things have gone. What is it going to take for the gaa to finally do something about this? Because it is only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured or worse. As another point of view i referee why should me and others give up our time when this is going on? too risk ourselves being attacked by some fella who thinks he has a god given right to attack the ref or linesman or umpire. Time to catch ye,re selves on its a f..king sport a game to enjoy not an excuse to go out and cause injury or trouble for another person. Enough is enough with this. Bet this post wont get posted because its the truth of whats happening in our game mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 08/10/2018 09:55:32 2145524 Link
Just throw teams out of the competition with no appeals at all. Thats what has to be done to end it, enough of the financial fines coupled with a ban which just gets overturned. Its seems to be a bit of a badge of honour in a lot of cases it seems, if a game needs to be abondoned due to this carry on then just throw them out and maybe even relegate them. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1500 - 08/10/2018 09:56:24 2145525 Link
Waiting for the "och, 'twas only a few wee handbags" brigade to log in. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1256 - 08/10/2018 10:08:22 2145527 Link
Replying To perfect10: "agree with both,i mean i was never one to back down from a tackle or anything but i took it like i gave it and nobody could say otherwise. yes the red mist descended on a couple of occasions and i let myself and my team mates down,but i very rarely remember that many of our games ending in a mass brawl. amidst all the condemnation of conor mcgregors fight at the weekend,i think what we see on a weekly basis is worse. was it always thus?i occasionally remember the odd match where there was a row in wexford,but it was the exception." It was always like this but nowadays it is seen with the advent of phone cameras and social media. It doesn't lessen the need to eradicate it but its not something new. There is a need to really drive home the Respect side of the game. From every age there needs to be zero tolerance of abusive behaviour, both verbally and physically and on the field and in the stands. Clubs need to show a bit of balls and remove people from their membership if they are involved in physical aggression that goes over and above the norm. I was at a game last night in the championship between ourselves and Cullyhanna. Fierce rivalry being parish neighbours and all would socialise together. Both teams are physical and play on the edge. It was a very physical game with a red who let it flow and a lot at stake. For all that would seemingly be at stake there were limited amounts of nasty stuff. One or two but nothing over the top. That's the way it should be. No need for half the stuff that goes on. Time for people to take responsibility on and off the field and enjoy our games for what they are RangerDanger (Armagh) - Posts: 101 - 08/10/2018 10:18:48 2145529 Link
Thankfully it's never really been a problem in this neck of the woods. There'll be the odd verbal spat but I've never witnessed anything close to what's been shown in recent months. This incident however is the limit. This was a riot and should be treated as such. Whatever defence is offered about what happens on the pitch etc etc is blown out of the water by these apes jumping the fence. Now you are in public and the full rigours of the law should be applied. Not Gaa law. Criminal law. And let's not trot out the usual tripe about the psni and the gaa. This is thuggery. If they're prosecuted they deserve it regardless of a communities relationship with the police. Needless to say the gaa should ban these clubs. There were enough members from both clubs involved to warrant an entire club being banned. Can it be attributed to a particular part of the country? Perhaps. But it's a blight that will become the norm if it's not dealt with and will spread. ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 231 - 08/10/2018 12:11:04 2145553 Link
Not something new? I never heard of this thuggery happening in Mayo, we've had plenty of bust ups among players but it ends on the pitch and players and supporters leaving the grounds talking and joking about, never needed for Garda or ambulances, the GAA need to waken up and throw any team involved in violence out of all competitions for 12 months, if that means players will quit the game? small loss, we don't want that type of s##te going on in our game, guarantee the GAA will put a small fine on the clubs and ban a few players for a few games and supporters will get a lengthy ban from games but that won't be enforced. If the GAA don't sort it out then supporters won't be allowed to attend games, the rest of us will be punished because of a group of gobsites causing trouble riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 08/10/2018 12:29:22 2145557 Link
Croke park shouldn't need to do anything here at all. Time for people to start taking personal responsibility, if there's someone on the team starting rows don't play them. If there's someone in the crowd from your own club sent them a letter informing them their behaviour is unacceptable. WunderBar (Galway) - Posts: 290 - 08/10/2018 12:51:16 2145565 Link
How do you change peoples actions to stop this? IMO there is far too many people allowed on the sideline of games. Far too many people allowed inside the fence at games. Why are there 20+ people allowed pitchside. Just creates trouble... DonaldDuck (Tipperary) - Posts: 544 - 08/10/2018 13:00:55 2145567 Link
Replying To riverboys: "Not something new? I never heard of this thuggery happening in Mayo, we've had plenty of bust ups among players but it ends on the pitch and players and supporters leaving the grounds talking and joking about, never needed for Garda or ambulances, the GAA need to waken up and throw any team involved in violence out of all competitions for 12 months, if that means players will quit the game? small loss, we don't want that type of s##te going on in our game, guarantee the GAA will put a small fine on the clubs and ban a few players for a few games and supporters will get a lengthy ban from games but that won't be enforced. If the GAA don't sort it out then supporters won't be allowed to attend games, the rest of us will be punished because of a group of gobsites causing trouble" Do you not remember your All Ireland Final against Meath.All this is nothing new and as somebody says the only difference is that it is all being filmed now.The main problem with the GAA is that it is so parochial and family orientated that if something happens somebody all hell breaks lose with family members and neighbours. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1149 - 08/10/2018 13:11:45 2145571 Link
This was a re-fixtured league match, both teams in danger of relegation. I was at the first game, which had to be abandoned after another melee involving subs, mentors and spectators. There were no sanctions imposed on the clubs after that one...... befair (Down) - Posts: 238 - 08/10/2018 13:43:09 2145576 Link
Big club fan getting to home and away fixtures and take in the odd neutral game have done for long time never seen scenes like the one were discussing, seen many a rumble multiple sending offs , thankfully not crowd related, not aware of it happening in Dublin at club scene, only answer is zero tolerance hit clubs were it matters in the pocket and kick them out of championship if you don't this crap continues Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 08/10/2018 14:06:05 2145580 Link
Replying To gunman: "Do you not remember your All Ireland Final against Meath.All this is nothing new and as somebody says the only difference is that it is all being filmed now.The main problem with the GAA is that it is so parochial and family orientated that if something happens somebody all hell breaks lose with family members and neighbours." Ahh will you give over. He clearly stated that it happens on pitch. I was at that game on hill 16 surrounded by both Meath and Mayo fans. Nor one bit of trouble. Cop yourself on. We are talking about players jumping fences to fight with supporters. No that does not happen and in my lifetime I never saw it before. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/10/2018 14:34:46 2145584 Link
Replying To DonaldDuck: "How do you change peoples actions to stop this? IMO there is far too many people allowed on the sideline of games. Far too many people allowed inside the fence at games. Why are there 20+ people allowed pitchside. Just creates trouble..." well to be fair in this incident it looks like it was behind the fence,not in front of it! perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 08/10/2018 14:38:22 2145586 Link