Calling all Keepers.....
My son as a novice keeper has found a place for himself in goals for the local club side. At the moment he's using the statutory 'keepers cone" to kick the ball out but wondering is there a better alternative? Something a bit stronger but not a rugby tee ? Looking at some keepers like our own Rory Beggan and even Cluxton and it doesn't looks like they use a tee at all.

GerryD (Monaghan) - Posts: 338 - 07/02/2018 19:01:22    2074865

There are two things that work perfectly

1. Make a whole in the ground and make sure that it's a decent sized whole (of course not big enough for the ball to fit in) and place the ball around Three Quarters over the whole and when you kick it go through the whole when as if you a chipping it, but don't really chip it (if you know what I mean) it takes practice but it does work.

2. A friend of mine was teaching his son and daughter how to kick. But they hated using a tee. But surprisingly he found an alternative which was a fairly creative but an idiotic idea at the same time. He got a large book and opened it half way and placed the ball at the spine in the middle which left a gap. They got used to it and now are fairly decent kickers.

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 07/02/2018 22:15:26    2074928

use 2 gum shields

BartMcQueen (Cork) - Posts: 196 - 07/02/2018 22:32:11    2074933

Apart from them previous replies which are frankly ridiculous, I've played a bit as a football goalkeeper and always found it easiest to use a standard training cone. I felt they perched the ball higher and therefore allowed me to get to the bottom of the ball and kick higher and longer. The rugby type tee I always thought was too low to get good distance.

Onfor15 (Wexford) - Posts: 533 - 08/02/2018 01:09:03    2074945

As a former keeper I have given this a lot of thought recently.
When I started out 30 years ago the emphasis was on putting the ball down and driving her as long as you possibly could.
The longer u drove it the better and that ability was a huge factor in holding your place. Creating a divot to allow u get the boot under the ball was a big thing ..
however the tee was introduced in 05 to eliminate the need for divots and reduce pressure on the keepers leg muscles.
It also reduced the skill required I believe, and in the modern game accurate kicking often short is far more important.
Good luck encouraging your child as a goalkeeper as it's a lonely spot. The way the game is going it's a key position so will be more and more attractive which is a good thing..
I would advise you to get into his physcie at young age and tell him that mistakes are part and parcel, they will happen and do not let them effect his game,.. don't allow them destroy the enjoyment of the position .. always have his back , very important when things go wrong to keep confidence high

pundit2 (Louth) - Posts: 597 - 08/02/2018 07:14:10    2074949

What I used was several training cones trimmed down slightly so you don't just get right under the ball and put too much loft on it, with it trimmed down it allows you to dink it as well. I then glued a few of them together to add a bit of rigidity but with it trimmed down it is pretty rigid.

The alternative is the bristle kicking tee (designed by Shane "Cake Curran, former Rossie keeper), but I personally preferred the cones as you can have a few at each post for a quick kick and are easily replaceable.

Hope this is some help but the main thing is to practice the swing no matter what tee they are using and practice hitting players on the move when they have got the basics down.

mhaith_fear (Donegal) - Posts: 75 - 08/02/2018 10:17:25    2074963

Cone Cut down slightly for me...as previous poster said.

Being able to kick with both feet is a fierce advantage for all players and even keepers ...Mean it can go that split second quicker if you need to use the right foot as a standing start or vice versa

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 08/02/2018 11:57:37    2074979

Top tip for keepers, cut down cone helps in windy weather too, more stability.

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 08/02/2018 14:45:34    2075022

My recommendation would be to use a puntee tee they are very effective and last for a long time. They come in different lengths for different conditions definitely worth looking up. Hope thats a help

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 789 - 08/02/2018 15:08:50    2075029

Not an expert by any means, but get him to practice frees (without a tee) from all angles/distances and different kicking styles, aiming for the black spot, and eventually those skills will transfer to kickouts and then he can decide what tee suits.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12333 - 08/02/2018 16:39:36    2075051

I remembering going to a goalkeeper coaching course run by Dublin's former goalkeeper coach (cant remember his name). He said around 06/07 Cluxton used a small ashtray with a piece of rubber glued around it as a tee. Not sure how true this is, but he said that it worked well because the ball sat perfectly in the base, quickly with no need to wait for the ball to settle before he could kick.

TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 08/02/2018 17:26:24    2075059

Can i ask why its in rules that kick outs must be taken with the tee? Should teams/keepers not be allowed the choice to use tee/kick short/even hand pass to restart the game?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/02/2018 18:41:29    2075072

pundit2 (Louth) - Posts: 597 - 09/02/2018 07:07:26    2075170

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13796 - 09/02/2018 10:27:29    2075196

I recommend one which is as low to the ground as possible. this way it will reduce the impact on the Hip. The higher the tee, the more strain that it put onto the hip as it is in an unnatural position and creates a leaning technique.

As someone previously mentioned, taking frees off the ground, If you can get the basic right kicking off the ground itll be far more beneficial in the long run. Being able to kick naturally of the ground results in more accuracy when the tee is introduced in my opinion.

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 402 - 09/02/2018 12:45:15    2075230

Use wet sand what rugby kickers used to use

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 09/02/2018 23:20:38    2075342