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Should not 23 Irish-based players be flying to Oz?

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Should Irish AFL players be included in the squad at the expense of lads who have stayed at home and committed themselves to gaelic football?

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Discuss.

Administrator (None) - Posts: 2275 - 28/09/2017 17:06:13    2051405

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Nope. Sport is about winning, not taking part.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/09/2017 17:15:54    2051409

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Its not a jolly , put up the best 23 available if that includes Oz then so be it , would imagine the three lads out there will be invaluable experience wise anyways , can see a counter argument but that's just my take

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 28/09/2017 17:20:58    2051413

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23 is too small a number of a panel to start with. You need 30 with injuries etc imo.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 28/09/2017 17:25:20    2051415

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Replying To Laois76:  "23 is too small a number of a panel to start with. You need 30 with injuries etc imo."
Agree but I'd bring 30 fit lads with no injuries ...

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts: 1722 - 28/09/2017 18:58:18    2051437

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It's not Gaelic football so why not select from from all forms of sport. Some of the rugby lads might do well at it.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 28/09/2017 19:24:53    2051444

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It's like this a if you go to a swingers party you'll have more joy if you bring the wife.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 28/09/2017 19:45:00    2051451

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It's NOT Gaelic football but a hybrid, mongrel type game so if Irish Aussie Rules fellas who are eligible and up to the standard want to play so what?

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 28/09/2017 19:52:43    2051455

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "Agree but I'd bring 30 fit lads with no injuries ..."
should be none going, just a jolly for the suits in croke park would be better if they stayed at home and tried to sort the games at home whilst they are dying on their feet in places

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 28/09/2017 20:47:23    2051475

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "It's NOT Gaelic football but a hybrid, mongrel type game so if Irish Aussie Rules fellas who are eligible and up to the standard want to play so what?"
you don't see rugby bastardising their sport, what is the actual purpose of this game anyhow and who does it benefit?

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 28/09/2017 20:49:21    2051478

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I don't see an issue with it. Its not gaelic football, its a combination of two sports. The lads were all born and grew up in Ireland and shouldn't be denied the chance to represent their country just because they took a shot at a professional sport in another country.

To any local lads who might be gutted at not making the cut for the Ireland squad then go and practice two codes more often or show big Joe something at the trials and maybe next time you'll make it.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 28/09/2017 20:54:08    2051480

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Bring the best players available and try and win it.

Really looking forward to this. Would love to see it extended. The Railway cup is dead. This game could take its place. Munster v South Australia, Ulster v Western Australia.. Play it every couple of years.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/09/2017 20:58:57    2051483

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "should be none going, just a jolly for the suits in croke park would be better if they stayed at home and tried to sort the games at home whilst they are dying on their feet in places"
its hardly a finishing blow to the association by sending 23 lads to Oz for a couple of weeks

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 28/09/2017 21:11:02    2051486

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "you don't see rugby bastardising their sport, what is the actual purpose of this game anyhow and who does it benefit?"
That's a different argument. The question wasn't about the legitimacy of the 'sport' but about who is eligible to play it. Start another thread on the hybrid game as a 'sport' if you wish.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9816 - 28/09/2017 21:24:21    2051489

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I don't mind it, our AFL players will have the best idea of how to play the AFL side of the game. Joe Kernan can pick who he wants

Hill16Army (Dublin) - Posts: 88 - 28/09/2017 21:26:43    2051490

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Bring the best players available and try and win it.

Really looking forward to this. Would love to see it extended. The Railway cup is dead. This game could take its place. Munster v South Australia, Ulster v Western Australia.. Play it every couple of years."
Super idea, Connacht could play Tasmania, the Dubs could play New Zealand to spice it up.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1226 - 28/09/2017 21:52:29    2051499

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Replying To SaffronDon:  "its hardly a finishing blow to the association by sending 23 lads to Oz for a couple of weeks"
would be getter putting the effort into the railway cup and making it a proper tournament were more players from each province would get the chance to play with the best players in their against the best of each province. my gripe is how does this benefit or showcase gaelic games to a wider audience apart from showing the scouts what talent to try to poach to their professional game

bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 28/09/2017 22:06:35    2051501

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "would be getter putting the effort into the railway cup and making it a proper tournament were more players from each province would get the chance to play with the best players in their against the best of each province. my gripe is how does this benefit or showcase gaelic games to a wider audience apart from showing the scouts what talent to try to poach to their professional game"
It brings an international element and gives players the chance to play against professional athletes.

I can understand why people might not like it.

It is divisive for sure. I think it is brilliant.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 28/09/2017 22:27:05    2051509

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "would be getter putting the effort into the railway cup and making it a proper tournament were more players from each province would get the chance to play with the best players in their against the best of each province. my gripe is how does this benefit or showcase gaelic games to a wider audience apart from showing the scouts what talent to try to poach to their professional game"
I'd like to see a return of the Railway cup myself, so long as its promoted properly I think it could be a decent event.

As for the International Rules series I wouldn't agree that its much of a shop window for scouts. Most GAA players on the squad are established and of a certain age. I'd say the days of listening to Aussie promises are behind them. Its the Minor/Under 21 age that they are interested in. If anything I believe the series is a bit of fun and a chance to show that our elite players can hold their own against the pros.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2557 - 28/09/2017 22:50:19    2051520

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Replying To bulmccabe:  "you don't see rugby bastardising their sport, what is the actual purpose of this game anyhow and who does it benefit?"
Rugby league? All modern sports have 'evolved' from more primitive beginnings.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/09/2017 01:30:13    2051556

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