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Replying To GeniusGerry: "Not sure where Killian is, his injury record would be a concern but if he is fit you could put him above Enright. Fionn is a good half back and has suffered from being played out of position very often, I would keep him on the panel but not in the 15. Would you not have Burns in there starting at 10? He really impressed me during the league, I think he will be a huge player for us in the coming years. Casey would also be very close and it may actually make sense to start him rather than O'Brien, who is lightning off the bench against tired defenders. There will be a real scrap to get in to the match day panel this year." Did any of ye read brollys piece on the dubs ? It's interesting, they're just ultra athletic and I'm sure if we could match them athletically we'd have the football to beat them. Don't know bout the refs though. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 09/04/2018 14:02:01 2091845 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Did any of ye read brollys piece on the dubs ? It's interesting, they're just ultra athletic and I'm sure if we could match them athletically we'd have the football to beat them. Don't know bout the refs though." What was he saying, was it in the Sunday Indo? TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 09/04/2018 21:18:40 2091962 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "What was he saying, was it in the Sunday Indo?" He was basically saying zonal defense won't work against the dubs the hermit that teams have to go man on man and out work them and ya it was the indo I think . Basketball seems to be the way to go. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 10/04/2018 01:29:36 2091984 Link
Another topic censored and then closed on the main page, at this rate no one will be allowed post a score of a match TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 10/04/2018 21:46:20 2092232 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Did any of ye read brollys piece on the dubs ? It's interesting, they're just ultra athletic and I'm sure if we could match them athletically we'd have the football to beat them. Don't know bout the refs though." I don't think I'd agree with you at the moment. We are moving in the right direction, I am sure of it, but we have a bit to go yet. Our fitness has been an issue for a couple of years and I think the Mayo game last year was the kick in the hole needed for it to be addressed. Regardless of fitness we are a bit light in many positions assuming that we stick with the youngsters now. It's not often I agree with Brolly but I do in this instance. What he is talking about is essentially what Mayo do in phases when playing them. Not sure we have the personnel to pull it off at this stage but give our young guns 2-3 seasons of experience. Imagine Clifford, Foley, Burns, Gavin Crowley and O'Shea in another couple of years if they keep developing. The building blocks are there for another great team. I would not be at all surprised if Dublin sweep the boards until then as there is nobody to touch them, Mayo have had a lot of injuries and look to be going in to the championship on the back foot. I am not sure they would survive another trek through the back door if Galway beat them. They are the only team capable of beating Dublin in Croker IMO and even at that they haven't managed it since 2012 iirc, so they haven't beaten the current incarnation at all, yet we are led to believe this is one of the greatest rivalries ever. I think a semi final spot would be a good season this year and something to build on for next year. A final spot would be excellent, and I wouldn't bet against it as most of the others are no great shakes either. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 11/04/2018 00:29:26 2092258 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "I don't think I'd agree with you at the moment. We are moving in the right direction, I am sure of it, but we have a bit to go yet. Our fitness has been an issue for a couple of years and I think the Mayo game last year was the kick in the hole needed for it to be addressed. Regardless of fitness we are a bit light in many positions assuming that we stick with the youngsters now. It's not often I agree with Brolly but I do in this instance. What he is talking about is essentially what Mayo do in phases when playing them. Not sure we have the personnel to pull it off at this stage but give our young guns 2-3 seasons of experience. Imagine Clifford, Foley, Burns, Gavin Crowley and O'Shea in another couple of years if they keep developing. The building blocks are there for another great team. I would not be at all surprised if Dublin sweep the boards until then as there is nobody to touch them, Mayo have had a lot of injuries and look to be going in to the championship on the back foot. I am not sure they would survive another trek through the back door if Galway beat them. They are the only team capable of beating Dublin in Croker IMO and even at that they haven't managed it since 2012 iirc, so they haven't beaten the current incarnation at all, yet we are led to believe this is one of the greatest rivalries ever. I think a semi final spot would be a good season this year and something to build on for next year. A final spot would be excellent, and I wouldn't bet against it as most of the others are no great shakes either." I suppose it'l all depend on the group we're in and whether or not hypothetically we top it or come second, I think if we top it we avoid the dubs in the semifinal as they will top their group, the only way I could see Mayo beating the dubs is in a semifinal and if they can go through the front door. I agree our fitness is very poor a bit like it was at times in the naughties till pat Flanagan came in and sorted us out . Ya the young fellas are going to make it interesting and we'll need another bunch to come through In next years league, the U20s competition is going to be very important for us this year as well. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/04/2018 12:32:29 2092330 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "I don't think I'd agree with you at the moment. We are moving in the right direction, I am sure of it, but we have a bit to go yet. Our fitness has been an issue for a couple of years and I think the Mayo game last year was the kick in the hole needed for it to be addressed. Regardless of fitness we are a bit light in many positions assuming that we stick with the youngsters now. It's not often I agree with Brolly but I do in this instance. What he is talking about is essentially what Mayo do in phases when playing them. Not sure we have the personnel to pull it off at this stage but give our young guns 2-3 seasons of experience. Imagine Clifford, Foley, Burns, Gavin Crowley and O'Shea in another couple of years if they keep developing. The building blocks are there for another great team. I would not be at all surprised if Dublin sweep the boards until then as there is nobody to touch them, Mayo have had a lot of injuries and look to be going in to the championship on the back foot. I am not sure they would survive another trek through the back door if Galway beat them. They are the only team capable of beating Dublin in Croker IMO and even at that they haven't managed it since 2012 iirc, so they haven't beaten the current incarnation at all, yet we are led to believe this is one of the greatest rivalries ever. I think a semi final spot would be a good season this year and something to build on for next year. A final spot would be excellent, and I wouldn't bet against it as most of the others are no great shakes either." Yeah, dependent on a few bounces of the ball, I think we are well capable of getting to the final, League and Championship are like night and day for Kerry teams so I'm not expecting a poor Championship on the back of a poor League. But hard to see us beating Dublin at this stage, but you never know - meeting in a final and all it takes is for them to just not show up or not perform to their utmost or to make a mistake that could tip it all in our favour. In 1955 we beat the machine, in 1975 a team of youngsters confounded the country, we've done it before and we can do it again. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 11/04/2018 13:09:08 2092347 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Yeah, dependent on a few bounces of the ball, I think we are well capable of getting to the final, League and Championship are like night and day for Kerry teams so I'm not expecting a poor Championship on the back of a poor League. But hard to see us beating Dublin at this stage, but you never know - meeting in a final and all it takes is for them to just not show up or not perform to their utmost or to make a mistake that could tip it all in our favour. In 1955 we beat the machine, in 1975 a team of youngsters confounded the country, we've done it before and we can do it again." Both before my time thankfully. I reckon they had a very light programme during the league with very little tactical work and we gambled on staying up. We just about got away with it. We will be a different animal come the summer, but having so many youngsters in there together makes us vulnerable, no matter how good they are. For that reason I think we are least two years away from genuinely challenging for Sam. I know that's not what people want to hear but that's my view anyway. GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 11/04/2018 15:18:45 2092396 Link
Replying To GeniusGerry: "Both before my time thankfully. I reckon they had a very light programme during the league with very little tactical work and we gambled on staying up. We just about got away with it. We will be a different animal come the summer, but having so many youngsters in there together makes us vulnerable, no matter how good they are. For that reason I think we are least two years away from genuinely challenging for Sam. I know that's not what people want to hear but that's my view anyway." Problem is Gerry you saying that to supporters who haven't had an All Ireland in 4 years! You know what we are like down here patience is not a virtue and no one wants to hear of 3 or 5 year plans. A canister in Sept is the only thing that will fly now for Fitzy. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 11/04/2018 15:59:33 2092411 Link
Best of luck to the Kerry minors tonight above in thurles. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/04/2018 17:52:42 2092438 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Best of luck to the Kerry minors tonight above in thurles." They did very well, a great result. 5 in a row would be unbelievable but a long long road ahead yet TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 11/04/2018 21:08:20 2092474 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "They did very well, a great result. 5 in a row would be unbelievable but a long long road ahead yet" Ya a long road all right, I think they're away to cork next so that'll be a cracker of a game, some achievement by our minors winning 4 in a row and when you think out of the 24 games they played only 3 of them games were played at home. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 11/04/2018 22:32:22 2092484 Link
Lads what happened with Eamon Wallace at the weekend does anyone know? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 12/04/2018 20:34:54 2092671 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Lads what happened with Eamon Wallace at the weekend does anyone know?" ??? TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 13/04/2018 13:27:03 2092826 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "???" Wallace who is now over the Offaly senior footballers was involved in something with and ardfert at the weekend and now he could be suspended for their opening rounds of the Leinster championship due to suspension, just wondering had anyone heard what happened ? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/04/2018 14:15:53 2092842 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Wallace who is now over the Offaly senior footballers was involved in something with and ardfert at the weekend and now he could be suspended for their opening rounds of the Leinster championship due to suspension, just wondering had anyone heard what happened ?" Oh I heard he was suspended but I thought it must have been something to do with a league game with Offaly. So it was something involving Ardfert at the weekend instead? TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 13/04/2018 15:13:16 2092851 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Oh I heard he was suspended but I thought it must have been something to do with a league game with Offaly. So it was something involving Ardfert at the weekend instead?" Yeah from the little bit I heard it was to do with ardfert , I didn't know he was still involved with them and maybe he's not. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 13/04/2018 16:11:25 2092871 Link
Apparently Fitzmaurice will be on Terrace Talk tomorrow, should be interesting listening. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 15/04/2018 22:54:36 2093172 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Apparently Fitzmaurice will be on Terrace Talk tomorrow, should be interesting listening." I just hope it won't be all sound bites the hermit, still looking forward to it and I hope he's asked the hard questions. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 16/04/2018 00:09:36 2093183 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "I just hope it won't be all sound bites the hermit, still looking forward to it and I hope he's asked the hard questions." We'll they'll be a lot of questions after the League and I'm sure he'll get some thrown at him. I'll be tuning in with interest. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 16/04/2018 12:20:28 2093246 Link