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Replying To Horsebox77:  "Lads speaking of Killian's there is no mention of Killian Young. When EF mentions players returning or on the injury table he talks about James and Moran, Morley etc. there is never a mention of Killian Young what is his story did he line out with Renard yet does anyone know?"
It's a funny one horse and like you I haven't heard anything yet, I take it he' l be back for championship.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/03/2018 21:15:21    2087550

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Maybe not, by all accounts Donnachadh was calling it a day but maybe things have changed.

Look being Coldly honest I am disappointed with tomorrow's selection I wouldn't be picking buckley or Moran, similarly panel wise I'd coldly cull Fionn, Moran, Donnachadh, buckley, Darren and BJ Keane - it's time for youth even if i5 means half writing off a year...

Similarly I actually have time for Eamon sometimes my posts might not reflect this but I actually do, my issue is what do the likes of Mossie Fitz, Mikey and Liam bring to the table, I really feel that an infield team should also be reflective with the outside the line set up, the county board should bring in the likes of Tommy Griffin and Declan roles within the coaching set up to earn the stripes and see the lay of the land. Similar to like Eamon with Jack

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 24/03/2018 22:02:15    2087562

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "Maybe not, by all accounts Donnachadh was calling it a day but maybe things have changed.

Look being Coldly honest I am disappointed with tomorrow's selection I wouldn't be picking buckley or Moran, similarly panel wise I'd coldly cull Fionn, Moran, Donnachadh, buckley, Darren and BJ Keane - it's time for youth even if i5 means half writing off a year...

Similarly I actually have time for Eamon sometimes my posts might not reflect this but I actually do, my issue is what do the likes of Mossie Fitz, Mikey and Liam bring to the table, I really feel that an infield team should also be reflective with the outside the line set up, the county board should bring in the likes of Tommy Griffin and Declan roles within the coaching set up to earn the stripes and see the lay of the land. Similar to like Eamon with Jack"
Horse I'm like you I have no I'll will towards fitz I'm sure he good man and a decent man and I really do wish him well, I just don't think he's the man to lead our senior team just yet, I say yet cos he is young and if he went away and started with our minor team and worked up to U20s and came back in 10 years I'd say he could be a great coach.

Also like you I'd like to see us stick with youth like we should have done last year.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/03/2018 22:32:03    2087574

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Ok but being realistic who else is out there that is that savvy, Fitz has an incredible record he is unbeaten in munster, maintained the unbeaten in Killarney record, won an all Ireland and national league both kind of against the head.

His record at schools level is equally impressive ok without writing his Gaa obituary who else is out there that is tried and trusted and capable of taking one of the most serious roles in Gaa

Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 24/03/2018 22:39:28    2087577

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "Ok but being realistic who else is out there that is that savvy, Fitz has an incredible record he is unbeaten in munster, maintained the unbeaten in Killarney record, won an all Ireland and national league both kind of against the head.

His record at schools level is equally impressive ok without writing his Gaa obituary who else is out there that is tried and trusted and capable of taking one of the most serious roles in Gaa"
Tried and trusted you have jack o'connor And pat O'Shea out of those 2 I'd pick o'shea all day long.

Out of left field I'd pick Peter Keane, he knows all these young lads coming through and the young lads are mad about him advice well , the style of football being played by our minors over the last couple of years is brilliant.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 24/03/2018 23:02:29    2087579

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Replying To Horsebox77:  "Maybe not, by all accounts Donnachadh was calling it a day but maybe things have changed.

Look being Coldly honest I am disappointed with tomorrow's selection I wouldn't be picking buckley or Moran, similarly panel wise I'd coldly cull Fionn, Moran, Donnachadh, buckley, Darren and BJ Keane - it's time for youth even if i5 means half writing off a year...

Similarly I actually have time for Eamon sometimes my posts might not reflect this but I actually do, my issue is what do the likes of Mossie Fitz, Mikey and Liam bring to the table, I really feel that an infield team should also be reflective with the outside the line set up, the county board should bring in the likes of Tommy Griffin and Declan roles within the coaching set up to earn the stripes and see the lay of the land. Similar to like Eamon with Jack"
Would agree with a lot of that but I just don't get the calls from some to drop Moran. He is still a very good midfielder on his day and we are not exactly flush with other options. He is not going to be the box to box player but his experience and leadership will be important and it would be utterly daft to drop him for the sake of it.

On you post about Killian I think his injury last year was a huge loss to Kerry, and with Aidan retiring on top of it that was two big gaps to fill. I don't think this has been acknowledged in Eamons defence at all.

Eamons biggest mistake in recent years was not adequately replacing Cian O'Neill when he left. We were miles off the pace last year against Mayo, we looked lethargic, overtrained and leggy, this was actually evident even in the QF. Hopefully this has been addressed now with O'Connor coming on board and we will be primed for the big games to come.

I don't think we have the panel to challenge this year but if we see good progress I'd be happy enough personally. We are building a new young team and it will be a long and bumpy road. The quality is there though, and some day they will click and good things will happen.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2113 - 25/03/2018 00:56:35    2087596

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "It's a funny one horse and like you I haven't heard anything yet, I take it he' l be back for championship."
Well I saw Killian with a group of the Kerry lads having a tipple on Paddy's night after the match so he's alive anyway!!
Strange though that there's been no update on him availability wise.

Has anyone decided to make the trip to Omagh, I was debating it but stayed put. I've too much on and sure there's nothing on the line, I'll stick Radio Kerry on and watch the Mayo/Donegal game in the background.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 25/03/2018 12:15:47    2087642

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Well I saw Killian with a group of the Kerry lads having a tipple on Paddy's night after the match so he's alive anyway!!
Strange though that there's been no update on him availability wise.

Has anyone decided to make the trip to Omagh, I was debating it but stayed put. I've too much on and sure there's nothing on the line, I'll stick Radio Kerry on and watch the Mayo/Donegal game in the background."
Ah he's around anyway I suppose that's something the hermit .

And I had to abort my mission to Omaha unfortunately , so it's radio Kerry for me as well.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/03/2018 12:46:42    2087652

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Going well for the lads so far, hon the kingdom.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/03/2018 15:16:49    2087683

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So Moran is wrecked tired and loses the ball which leads to penalty and management decides to make a substitution so they bring on big Brendan and take off daithi who's having a stormer instead of Moran? and why do they keep letting Moran take the far out frees?
This management are clueless.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/03/2018 16:24:39    2087697

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Going well for the lads so far, hon the kingdom."
Jesus H Christ, same sh*te different day, defense non existent when Tyrone run at them!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 25/03/2018 16:28:54    2087698

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Substitutions are baffling flaherty for Buckley? But taking off our play maker is crazy.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/03/2018 16:32:53    2087699

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Jesus H Christ, same sh*te different day, defense non existent when Tyrone run at them!"
Nice to see management are working on it the hermit.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/03/2018 18:31:22    2087819

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Was the league a success? It depends on what way you look at it. If last years team played throughout the league we would all be giving out that we should be using the league to find 3 or 4 new players. We would expect at least 8 points to be our total. The league was used to field 8 or 9 players who have not played at this level before. To come away with 6 points at the end is not too bad. The question now is what this thread is all about. Where to next?

Do we stick with the young or go back to the tried and tested? The tried and tested may take us to a semi final or better. The young, a quarter final at best. The likes of sean o se, Clifford, Burns, Foley, Jack Barry and Shanahan must be making the starting 15 from now on. If not we are only going backwards. I have serious concerns over our defence and our discipline. It must improve dramatically or we can forget about playing football in September.

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 668 - 25/03/2018 19:15:49    2087864

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Not to worry people the "star" was back today for stacks after the basketball finished so he will be in full forward soon. Everyone will want him in there and I'm sure Eamon cant wait to start him. Just turned thirty five a few weeks ago Kick in the high ball yea all will be good.

chicago09 (Kerry) - Posts: 694 - 25/03/2018 21:31:26    2087971

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Well Aidan the only thing to realistically option is to blend the best of what we have had over the past 4-5 years with the 5-6 players who put their hand up in the League and see where that get's us this summer.
If we revert to last summer's team were going nowhere but if we just stick in 10 young fellas we'll get nowhere either!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 25/03/2018 21:43:48    2087978

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Well tomás o'Sé made an interesting comment tonight saying Liam kearns could be looked at for the Kerry job as he seems to get the best out of his players, so looks like we not the only disgruntled Kerry fans .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 25/03/2018 22:40:10    2088021

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Well tomás o'Sé made an interesting comment tonight saying Liam kearns could be looked at for the Kerry job as he seems to get the best out of his players, so looks like we not the only disgruntled Kerry fans ."
Well if the position becomes available, as it should have done in the view of many in the Kingdom after last season, Liam Kearns must be given serious consideration. Naturally, I wish Éamonn Fitzmaurice all the best for the Championship campaign to come but to be honest I've no faith in him anymore or his management team.

Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 244 - 26/03/2018 08:17:26    2088088

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Replying To Kingdomson:  "Well if the position becomes available, as it should have done in the view of many in the Kingdom after last season, Liam Kearns must be given serious consideration. Naturally, I wish Éamonn Fitzmaurice all the best for the Championship campaign to come but to be honest I've no faith in him anymore or his management team."
Well said, the players go back to their clubs now so maybe they might pick up a bit of fitness as from what iv being reading a load of our guys were out on their feet after 40 minutes or so yesterday , I don't know maybe they're trying to keep their powder dry for the championship .

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 26/03/2018 10:55:31    2088175

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Well sin e, League done and dusted and now the long wait begins until the Munster Semi-Final on the 2 June.

Two bloody months ahead where we will have no clue what's going on below in training, we won't know what players are coming back after not featuring in the League, we won't know whose been culled and we won't have any notion what the Championship panel is until the eve of their first Munster game.

It's been a League to forget results wise. I think we are all happy so many young players got their chance but ever since the Mayo victory there has been no sense of the team as a whole developing, the performances improving week on week, a game plan forming etc.

All I can hope is that the two victories in the first couple of games told management that we would be safe from any relegation battle and instead the priority and focus was on giving as many lads as much game time as possible.

Now that's all well and good, but my huge worry is how the sideline has overseen the actual games. Whatever about giving guys a chance, surely Eamon would still be sending them out to try and win? For a young side surely winning is the best confidence boost you can get.
So why the bizarre selections and crucially, the unfathomable substitutions game after game?

Kingdomboy said it above, Moran on his last legs, they bring on Brendan a midfielder but he replaces Casey one of the only fellas taking the game to Tyrone!!!!

People like BJK and Mike Geaney still making the field (even been selected out of position to facilitate it) when these lads should have been culled long ago.

No kick out strategy, no system put in place to counter our weaknesses in defense.

I mean why does playing young fella's have to mean you do practically nothing else to try and win the games or develop the team.

It's a if Fitzmaurice's tactic for the entire League was, right lads go out and play and see what happens. Are two months, one of which is meant to be given over to the clubs, going to be enough time to fix every glaring shortcoming the League has shown up?!!!

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 26/03/2018 12:26:20    2088239

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