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Ill go with the majority selection and say Meath KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 04/05/2017 14:58:44 1984488 Link
Replying To thegadfly: "In my opinion Meath haven't got a snowballs chance in hell of beating Dublin. With all due respect some of the posters here from Meath are letting their heart rule their heads in my opinion. Dublin will walk Leinster again but will possibly be beaten in the latter rounds as they have went back a tiny bit. I wouldn't bet on it though." Ah surely they're just taking the pss, they can't really believe they have any chance?! GaaGaa78 (UK)* - Posts: 285 - 04/05/2017 15:39:55 1984502 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Liam what's all this stuff about Gavin querying the 'logic' of the referee that was selected for the League final? Surely it's not sour grapes on the Dubs part?? ;D" Not sour grapes it was a pint raised by all BEFORE the game there is and was no logic in that refs appointment , that stands, for me it had no bearing on result as he made questionable calls all day against both teams , fact that HQ got appointment wrong has nothing to do with result , refs performance speaks for itself Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/05/2017 16:20:56 1984513 Link
Replying To GaaGaa78: "Ah surely they're just taking the pss, they can't really believe they have any chance?!" Not in the slightest, ill give you one example, in 2011 if i remember correctly Donegal were humiliated by Longford with the likes of murphy McFadden and a fair few others on the team. Then came jim McGuinness, Meath have been seriously underperforming over past few years, players not nearly playing well enough, goo players playing badly, other players refuse to play. That is now all sorted, their is hunger desire and they are playing to potential, under the manager Michael daragh McCauley said and I quote "the best manager I have ever played under". It may or may not happen. Also in a behind closed doors game recently between Meath and mayo, Meath narrowly lost but a long standing member and all star of mayo team said afterwards, that Meath would be a force to be reckoned with in championship, Meath also hammered Down in recent challenge. Now look very little can be read into challenges but Meath will make last 8 this year that is for sure, as for beating Dublin ? Yes its a lot more possible this year than since 2010, will it happen? Hard to know , but if not this year it will be over next 3 years. Andy mcentee is I believe the best manager since Sean and that is some man to follow. royaldunne (Meath)* - Posts: 19449 - 04/05/2017 16:22:06 1984515 Link
Replying To GaaGaa78: "Ah surely they're just taking the pss, they can't really believe they have any chance?!" Well it's beginning to look like either that or they are completely deluded! thegadfly (Cavan)* - Posts: 290 - 04/05/2017 16:22:38 1984516 Link
Replying To realdub: "Why can't it be? Emmm, oh yeh, it's because you're crap :D" Oh roll on our meeting. :) royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/05/2017 16:23:11 1984518 Link
Kerry,Mayo,Donegal,Tyrone and possibly Monaghan are most likely to beat Dublin I'd say.Meath beating Dublin is possible of course but highly unlikely.Cork beating Kerry is also possible but highly unlikely. It's still down to a handful of teams or individuals as in most sports to contest the big prizes. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 04/05/2017 16:51:20 1984527 Link
Well I for one welcome this bravo talk , two years ago we had a poster who if he's brace enough will put his hand up to say Dublin shouldn't be playing in Leinster and due to our strength and advantages move on and leave Leinster to other counties, at the time I thought their had been a cull of nuts in the county , but now we have what I like big up your team , get behind them , kill the blue juggernaut that's more like it here here good auld Meath have found their mojo Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/05/2017 17:41:26 1984541 Link
meath beating dublin? nah lads seriously one step at a time.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/05/2017 17:56:10 1984543 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Not in the slightest, ill give you one example, in 2011 if i remember correctly Donegal were humiliated by Longford with the likes of murphy McFadden and a fair few others on the team. Then came jim McGuinness, Meath have been seriously underperforming over past few years, players not nearly playing well enough, goo players playing badly, other players refuse to play. That is now all sorted, their is hunger desire and they are playing to potential, under the manager Michael daragh McCauley said and I quote "the best manager I have ever played under". It may or may not happen. Also in a behind closed doors game recently between Meath and mayo, Meath narrowly lost but a long standing member and all star of mayo team said afterwards, that Meath would be a force to be reckoned with in championship, Meath also hammered Down in recent challenge. Now look very little can be read into challenges but Meath will make last 8 this year that is for sure, as for beating Dublin ? Yes its a lot more possible this year than since 2010, will it happen? Hard to know , but if not this year it will be over next 3 years. Andy mcentee is I believe the best manager since Sean and that is some man to follow." admire your glass half full as always rd,but we did beat donegal by 16 point in a friendly last summer. now we are going in the right direction but baby steps. :) ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/05/2017 17:59:59 1984545 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Well I for one welcome this bravo talk , two years ago we had a poster who if he's brace enough will put his hand up to say Dublin shouldn't be playing in Leinster and due to our strength and advantages move on and leave Leinster to other counties, at the time I thought their had been a cull of nuts in the county , but now we have what I like big up your team , get behind them , kill the blue juggernaut that's more like it here here good auld Meath have found their mojo" well yes but logic has to come into it too. i do think we are capable of at least putting up a fight to dublin,i was disgusted by the effort last year. game by game for meath,if we get to the final,then i will have a better idea. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/05/2017 18:03:08 1984546 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Not in the slightest, ill give you one example, in 2011 if i remember correctly Donegal were humiliated by Longford with the likes of murphy McFadden and a fair few others on the team. Then came jim McGuinness, Meath have been seriously underperforming over past few years, players not nearly playing well enough, goo players playing badly, other players refuse to play. That is now all sorted, their is hunger desire and they are playing to potential, under the manager Michael daragh McCauley said and I quote "the best manager I have ever played under". It may or may not happen. Also in a behind closed doors game recently between Meath and mayo, Meath narrowly lost but a long standing member and all star of mayo team said afterwards, that Meath would be a force to be reckoned with in championship, Meath also hammered Down in recent challenge. Now look very little can be read into challenges but Meath will make last 8 this year that is for sure, as for beating Dublin ? Yes its a lot more possible this year than since 2010, will it happen? Hard to know , but if not this year it will be over next 3 years. Andy mcentee is I believe the best manager since Sean and that is some man to follow." As a Mayo man living in West Meath, not Westmeath but very close, I'm delighted to hear this fighting talk. I wondered where the fight and the arrogance had gone from Meath football since Boylan left management. I naively believe they'll win Leinster before the end of the decade and it won't be entirely down to a demise in this great Dublin team. McEntee has them on the right path. What's the point in saying "We'll never beat Dublin" or "Sure we might beat Dublin if they have an off day" rather than saying "We're going to beat Dublin". Meath always had good footballers and were usually physically tough men too. But, for me, their biggest strength was their mental toughness and absolute hatred of losing. So if there's optimism emerging in Meath football they'll be back sooner rather than later and it's not just the Dubs who need to beware. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7990 - 04/05/2017 18:47:59 1984552 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "well yes but logic has to come into it too. i do think we are capable of at least putting up a fight to dublin,i was disgusted by the effort last year. game by game for meath,if we get to the final,then i will have a better idea." Agree with last years effort shocking , There are a new generation of fans on both sides who this rivalry we talk about the only real concrete eveidence of it is on reeling in the years , now Wayno1 will keep his foot on your head while your under water , me I'd let you up for air before ducking you back under , rivalries are great for campturing the imagination of the youth and God the amount in soccer jerseys on show when I drive through Meath you badly need a revival. Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 04/05/2017 18:50:36 1984553 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Should we meet it will be Meath, after all there are games to be played prior to Dublin meeting any of those teams you speak of. Tyrone will be lucky to play in croke park, at best they are 3rd team in Ulster behind Donegal and Monaghan. Tyrone remind me of meath circa 04/05. Holding on to the manager hoping for one more piece of magic, no one wants to say to him , your time is up we are eternally grateful, you have done more for this county than anyone could have asked . Thank you. But no one wants to do it and I understand that better than most" No shock there then but agree with most of your points. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 04/05/2017 19:21:22 1984560 Link
A number of teams really, think Dublin are there for the taking. as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 04/05/2017 19:48:15 1984569 Link
Replying To as_ky: "A number of teams really, think Dublin are there for the taking." As they've always been Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 04/05/2017 20:02:38 1984571 Link
Replying To as_ky: "A number of teams really, think Dublin are there for the taking." Dublin are beatable but they're certainly not there for the taking.Still the most likely champions come September. endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2408 - 04/05/2017 20:22:43 1984574 Link
I think more teams could beat Dublin now than 2 or 3 years ago let say, is it a case of Dublin powers fading or just teams catching up with Dublin ? I see Kerry winning this years all Ireland..actually i think Kerry could win 2 or 3 of those all Irelands in the next six years..I believe Galway are going to be the next emerging team ! I also still think Donegal have another all Ireland in them ! Tyrone on the other hand need a new manger with fresh ideas to spoil this Kerry team victory parade ! Leinster will be competitive again,i think by 2019 you could very well have four division one teams all from Leinster! But i can't see a Leinster team winning a all Ireland for another few years and that includes Dublin ! I look at Paul Flynn, Diarmuid Connolly, Stephen cluxton ,Bernard Brogan and Alan Brogan(gone) none of them have a u21 or minor all ireland titles ..when they started their career with Dublin football they only knew one thing bad beatings from Kerry,Tyrone and others and Hard times ! But hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create hard times ! Paul Flynn, Diarmuid Connolly, Stephen cluxton ,Bernard Brogan and Alan Brogan are probably up their with the greats who ever played the game..in their early days they were called Junior footballers and bottlers..now at their age their body will start betraying them sadly from a football fans point of view who loves watching them play ! The young Dublin lads who only know good times and never seen a hard tough horrible day in croke park,well their heads will eventually betray them when it happens ! Human nature thats all it is ! WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 946 - 04/05/2017 20:24:00 1984575 Link
Replying To Damothedub: "Agree with last years effort shocking , There are a new generation of fans on both sides who this rivalry we talk about the only real concrete eveidence of it is on reeling in the years , now Wayno1 will keep his foot on your head while your under water , me I'd let you up for air before ducking you back under , rivalries are great for campturing the imagination of the youth and God the amount in soccer jerseys on show when I drive through Meath you badly need a revival." absolutely. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/05/2017 20:34:35 1984578 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "As a Mayo man living in West Meath, not Westmeath but very close, I'm delighted to hear this fighting talk. I wondered where the fight and the arrogance had gone from Meath football since Boylan left management. I naively believe they'll win Leinster before the end of the decade and it won't be entirely down to a demise in this great Dublin team. McEntee has them on the right path. What's the point in saying "We'll never beat Dublin" or "Sure we might beat Dublin if they have an off day" rather than saying "We're going to beat Dublin". Meath always had good footballers and were usually physically tough men too. But, for me, their biggest strength was their mental toughness and absolute hatred of losing. So if there's optimism emerging in Meath football they'll be back sooner rather than later and it's not just the Dubs who need to beware." i will say that skill and ability isn't really the issue in meath football.. you sort of hit the nail on the head. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 04/05/2017 20:36:40 1984580 Link